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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2019, 09:39:56 am »


From what I have read so far is that the gearbox and FD takes the same oil?
Recommended is SAE 75W140
Any other suggestions? Brand?

Castrol do a 75W140 Syntrax I think (it is a GL5 LSD Lubricant)  :sip:
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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2019, 09:42:25 am »
From what I have read so far is that the gearbox and FD takes the same oil?
Recommended is SAE 75W140
Any other suggestions? Brand?

Castrol do a 75W140 Syntrax I think (it is a GL5 LSD Lubricant)  :sip:
I had that Castrol in my gearbox and FD. Changed to Fuchs 80/90 mineral. Gearbox is much smoother. Do not know why.
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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2019, 09:42:47 am »
I use Fuchs Silkolene Comp Gear (can't remember the viscosity now, will have to check for you), 800ml in the gearbox and 180ml in the FD.
Thank you! Fuchs is difficult to get hold of in my experience, also I don't know where to look.
Thanks for the quantities, will help alot..

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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2019, 09:45:53 am »
https://www.fuchs.com/za/en/products/service-links/distributor-or-dealer-search/

Kyk of hierdie kan help met n Fuchs agent. Net vinnig Johannesburg ingetik en hy seg daar is een in Isando.
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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2019, 10:39:10 am »
A client in town did his without removing the swingarm. Why? Because he could not remove the swingarm at all apart from using a grinder!! :o :eek7:
Mines a bit perished too so will ask him how he did it when the time comes.

Believe me, it is a far easier and quicker job to do with the swingarm removed.

Yes, it can be done without removing the swingarm.  You need top uncouple the FD and lower it.  Then remove the drive shaft.  Remove the old boot and hook the new boot around the drive shaft.  Now comes the bitch.

Re-align and orient the drive shaft on the gearbox output shaft spline with the boot constantly in the way.  Once you have successfully done that and are fluent in the new vocabulary you have just learnt, fit the new boot in place, making sure that the internal plastic clip is correctly in place and is not rubbing against the drive shaft or has not fallen into the swingarm.  Also make sure that the rubber boot is securely held between the plastic clip and the swingarm all the way around.

After 3 hours of battling, remove the rubber boot again and throw it away, because, no, it was not in the correct place and all the prodding and poking with the screwdriver has now left it truly buggered again.  Get another new boot and try again.

Repeat until you have it all in place.  Yes, beer does help to lubricate it and I guess after enough beer it doesn't really matter whether it is in correctly or not.  :biggrin:

Or you can just remove the swingarm and do it the easy way to start with.
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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2019, 10:47:48 am »
Or you can just remove the swingarm

If one can get the swingarm off yes. In his case no amount of heating, jack hammering or swearing did the trick so he fitted it the wrong way. He was replacing the shaft at the same time.
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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2019, 11:17:46 am »
https://www.fuchs.com/za/en/products/service-links/distributor-or-dealer-search/

Kyk of hierdie kan help met n Fuchs agent. Net vinnig Johannesburg ingetik en hy seg daar is een in Isando.
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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2019, 02:50:29 pm »
Is there any alternative to the NGK MAR8B-JDS spark plugs specified by BMW, or do I fork out the R150/plug  :eek7:
 

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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2019, 03:08:11 pm »
Is there any alternative to the NGK MAR8B-JDS spark plugs specified by BMW, or do I fork out the R150/plug  :eek7:
I bought a box of 10 from Diesel Electric for about R80 a plug.
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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot & other general maintenance
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2019, 03:09:07 pm »
Weet nie watter jaar model joune is nie, maar ek het die 2004 GS 1200 en hy vat 4x NGK DCPR8EKC (2x primary en 2x secondary)
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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot & other general maintenance
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2019, 03:31:53 pm »
Weet nie watter jaar model joune is nie, maar ek het die 2004 GS 1200 en hy vat 4x NGK DCPR8EKC (2x primary en 2x secondary)
Die DOHC motors vat die duur bliksems.
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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot & other general maintenance
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2019, 03:54:46 pm »
Weet nie watter jaar model joune is nie, maar ek het die 2004 GS 1200 en hy vat 4x NGK DCPR8EKC (2x primary en 2x secondary)


2010 DOHC
Weet nie watter jaar model joune is nie, maar ek het die 2004 GS 1200 en hy vat 4x NGK DCPR8EKC (2x primary en 2x secondary)
Die DOHC motors vat die duur bliksems.

Nes jy se ja. Het gehoop daar is dalk 'n alternatief. Diesel Electric in Krugersdorp tel dit nie op nie, so jy is moerse lucky @ R80/plug :3some:

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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot & other general maintenance
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2019, 04:29:24 pm »
Praat mooi met die manager.  Die plug is veronderstel om slegs aan bike shops verkoop te word.   :o  As die ou nice is kan hy 'n boks bestel, MOQ is een boks en die winkel sal heel moontlik nie die stock wil dra nie.  Dus hoekom ek 10 plugs moes vat.
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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot & other general maintenance
« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2019, 09:19:09 pm »
Praat mooi met die manager.  Die plug is veronderstel om slegs aan bike shops verkoop te word.   :o  As die ou nice is kan hy 'n boks bestel, MOQ is een boks en die winkel sal heel moontlik nie die stock wil dra nie.  Dus hoekom ek 10 plugs moes vat.

Buy them over the counter at Midas.  I normally buy 20 at a time.
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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot & other general maintenance
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2019, 09:00:59 am »
Weet nie watter jaar model joune is nie, maar ek het die 2004 GS 1200 en hy vat 4x NGK DCPR8EKC (2x primary en 2x secondary)
Die DOHC motors vat die duur bliksems.

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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot & other general maintenance
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2019, 09:19:19 am »
Weet nie watter jaar model joune is nie, maar ek het die 2004 GS 1200 en hy vat 4x NGK DCPR8EKC (2x primary en 2x secondary)
Die DOHC motors vat die duur bliksems.

Eina pyn  :eek7:

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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot & other general maintenance
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2019, 10:38:25 am »
Weet nie watter jaar model joune is nie, maar ek het die 2004 GS 1200 en hy vat 4x NGK DCPR8EKC (2x primary en 2x secondary)
Die DOHC motors vat die duur bliksems.

Eina pyn  :eek7:

Try the Bosch YR5LDE from Diesel Electric.

Thanks Jughead. Will they fit a 2010 model? I see that they are recommended for Hexheads? So far I have no luck locating the NGK MAR8B-JDS plugs anywhere.


 

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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2019, 10:39:52 am »
Getting closer to D-day.

If everything works out as planned, I will be doing this job on Saturday (or at least start).

I am going to also drain and refil gearbox oil, and FD oil, I think its due anyway, so might as well do the whole shebang.

I have read on r1200gs.info forum that you need to replace the bolt holding the FD to the swing arm every time you loosen it:
"There is a service bulletin that says you must replace the nut that holds the paralever's torque arm to the final drive. Apparently it is a "one-time" use item, and SHOULD BE REPLACED if removed!"
https://www.r1200gs.info/howto/reardrive.html

What is the reason for this? fatigue?

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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot & other general maintenance
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2019, 01:38:36 pm »
Weet nie watter jaar model joune is nie, maar ek het die 2004 GS 1200 en hy vat 4x NGK DCPR8EKC (2x primary en 2x secondary)
Die DOHC motors vat die duur bliksems.

Eina pyn  :eek7:

Try the Bosch YR5LDE from Diesel Electric.

Thanks Jughead. Will they fit a 2010 model? I see that they are recommended for Hexheads? So far I have no luck locating the NGK MAR8B-JDS plugs anywhere.

No, YR5LDE is for single cam.  Twin cam takes the MAR8B-JDS available from Midas.
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Re: Swing Arm Rubber boot & other general maintenance
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2019, 06:11:47 pm »
Rookie me..
I have started to disassemble the bike over the past few days, little bit each day when kids allow, mainly so that I can take my time doing so (first time) and not having to cramp everything in one day.

Realised today that I won't be able to ride the bike to get the oil (gearbox, FD & engine) warmed up a little. How critical is this? I think if I leave it to drain for a long enough while cold, most should drain? Or am I wrong?

Or can istart and idle the bike for 15min as is? Exhaust is off, so might be bit loud :ricky:
 

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