Author Topic: My Sidecar Project (Read 52310 times)

woody1 · « **Reply #220 on:** July 19, 2019, 09:45:30 am »

So een

Gérrard · « **Reply #221 on:** July 19, 2019, 06:01:53 pm »

Got the swingarm back from the welders

Gérrard · « **Reply #222 on:** July 20, 2019, 06:38:10 pm »

Making jigs to set the car up next to the bike and make the connections. First one did not work out so well Second one is sorted.

Gérrard · « **Reply #223 on:** July 20, 2019, 06:40:22 pm »

Now to ponder how far the frame goes from the bike. I think a bit loser.

gee · « **Reply #224 on:** July 21, 2019, 10:44:34 am »

looks good i notice on a lot of rigs they seem to use car tyres on the sidecar and the back of the bike

Gérrard · « **Reply #225 on:** July 21, 2019, 11:40:44 am »

Quote from: gee on July 21, 2019, 10:44:34 am

looks good i notice on a lot of rigs they seem to use car tyres on the sidecar and the back of the bike

Its all a ompromise. More kilo's traded off against handeling

JFE · « **Reply #226 on:** July 21, 2019, 12:41:43 pm »

Quote from: Gérrard on July 20, 2019, 06:40:22 pm

Now to ponder how far the frame goes from the bike. I think a bit loser.

For what it’s worth the road traffic act stipulation is a maximum width of 2.6m for a vehicle. Don’t know how close you are to that, was pondering legality of the final build.

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woody1 · « **Reply #227 on:** July 21, 2019, 12:58:10 pm »

Its all a ompromise. More kilo's traded off against handeling....

How would you know how it will handle.....jy gaan nog BATAAL vir tyres my maat... En moenie se ek het jou nie gewaarsku nie.

Mr D · « **Reply #228 on:** July 21, 2019, 01:04:28 pm »

Subscribe, looks to be a cool project so keen to see the progress

Gérrard · « **Reply #229 on:** July 21, 2019, 02:31:39 pm »

Quote from: woody1 on July 21, 2019, 12:58:10 pm

Its all a ompromise. More kilo's traded off against handeling....

How would you know how it will handle.....jy gaan nog BATAAL vir tyres my maat... En moenie se ek het jou nie gewaarsku nie.

Hulle sê so en hulle is altyd reg. Ons sal maar eers sien. Work in progress

woody1 · « **Reply #230 on:** July 21, 2019, 02:39:52 pm »

HULLE se PAMPOEN skille... jy gaan die skille gooi.

Welsh · « **Reply #231 on:** July 21, 2019, 02:41:40 pm »

Quote from: woody1 on July 21, 2019, 12:58:10 pm

Its all a ompromise. More kilo's traded off against handeling....

How would you know how it will handle.....jy gaan nog BATAAL vir tyres my maat... En moenie se ek het jou nie gewaarsku nie.

not sure about that, my view would be a “square” tyre is fine if you cannot lean the thing? Except when you lift the 3rd wheel

Gérrard · « **Reply #232 on:** July 21, 2019, 03:33:04 pm »

There is a theory, and practice to it. Car tyre grips too much. You need a bit of slip on a non driven sidecar wheel or you'll put a lot of strain on the bike's drive. Cost of tyre v cost of clutch, gearbox, shaft, final drive etc

Gérrard · « **Reply #233 on:** July 21, 2019, 03:58:25 pm »

Quote from: woody1 on July 21, 2019, 02:39:52 pm

HULLE se PAMPOEN skille... jy gaan die skille gooi.

Hulle doen die ding al 'n lang tyd. Hoeveel Urals het jy al gesien met kar wiele ?

Gérrard · « **Reply #234 on:** July 21, 2019, 04:03:57 pm »

Today's job. Subframe complete. It still gets a brace to the main frame at the top and rear crashbar mount. That front mount is the weak point. I'm a bit worried I made it too strong. In a totalled crash that subframe is going to come out one piece.

Having completed it, I gained 10mm in clearance. Not bad design for an appie engineer. (not like some other real engineers who lost half the clearance on their car tyre sidecar.

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FanieKrismis · « **Reply #235 on:** July 21, 2019, 04:46:23 pm »

Quote from: Gérrard on July 21, 2019, 04:03:57 pm

Not bad design for an appie engineer. (not like some other real engineers who lost half the clearance on their car tyre sidecar. )

Brakpan low profiles do that...

Gérrard · « **Reply #236 on:** July 21, 2019, 05:16:46 pm »

Quote from: FanieKrismis on July 21, 2019, 04:46:23 pm

Quote from: Gérrard on July 21, 2019, 04:03:57 pm
Not bad design for an appie engineer. (not like some other real engineers who lost half the clearance on their car tyre sidecar. )

Brakpan low profiles do that...

En moenie die dropped suspension vergeet nie

katana · « **Reply #237 on:** July 21, 2019, 05:19:28 pm »

I agree fully with any and all negative comments and I believe that this will not work. Please design it to be able to fit a 1200 as well...

Gérrard · « **Reply #238 on:** July 21, 2019, 05:32:45 pm »

Quote from: katana on July 21, 2019, 05:19:28 pm

I agree fully with any and all negative comments and I believe that this will not work. Please design it to be able to fit a 1200 as well...

You get Humfree to do it for you. He has the jigs for the1200.

Gérrard · « **Reply #239 on:** July 21, 2019, 05:36:07 pm »

In my limited experience view building the car frame is the easy part. That took e a weekend. Building the subframe is the tricky part.

Getting it where I'm happy, took me three weeks. If you an get someone to do the subframe for you, do it. Making up the brackets for it all to go together, is also straight forward. There's only one way for it to go, so its cut and weld