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My Sidecar Project
« on: May 15, 2019, 12:13:31 pm »
I love sidecars (obviously… I started this board  :biggrin: ) And one of the reasons I bought the 1150 adv is to put a sidecar on it. For now Wify won't let me, and also its bleddie complicated fitting the subframe to these modern frameless bikes as a first try DIY eperient. I can get Humfree to do it, and though I accept his cost is reasonable, its inhibitive for now.

So, I'm first going to give it a go with something simpler  on another bike, and thinking of hacking the W650, but that would be sinful. I've already done a lot of research.

I'm not rushing (must first finish the trailer) just getting my ducks in a row.

First the bike. Anyone out there with a nice BMW R100 to swap for a W650 ?

And then I need a suitable tub, so if you have one lying around let me know.



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Re: Sidear Bike ?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2019, 12:19:46 pm »
JJR bought a secondhand sidecar on Gumtree and did the fitting onto his 1150 GSA himself.
Niemand het nog in die pad geval so dit was n sukses al lyk sy welding soos voëltjiekak. Vra hom om fodies te post :peepwall: ;)

Ek begin al self my 1200 se onderstel beloer hoe en waar ek wat kan aanlap.
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Re: Sidear Bike ?
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2019, 12:28:55 pm »
JJR bought a secondhand sidecar on Gumtree and did the fitting onto his 1150 GSA himself.
Niemand het nog in die pad geval so dit was n sukses al lyk sy welding soos voëltjiekak. Vra hom om fodies te post :peepwall: ;)

Ek begin al self my 1200 se onderstel beloer hoe en waar ek wat kan aanlap.

Dit verbyster my dat jy dit nie lankal gedoen het nie. Jy mis uit op ure se rytyd en met die sidecar reg gebou kan jy harder jaag as met jou bike... en veiliger.

Nee ek het ook al die 1150 hard bekyk en weet hoe omm dit te doen Baie threads op ADV rider gelees en u-tube gekyk. Ek voel net voor ek gaan DIY wil ek eers et iets ligter eksperimenteer om die geometries en goed reg te kry en as Vroutjie sê GO ! is ek reg.
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Re: Sidecar Bike ?
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2019, 12:31:46 pm »
Die idee is die main frame wat ek vir die oefen rig gaan bou, gaan so gedoen word dat hy met modifikasie oorgeplaas kan word op die 1150
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Re: Sidecar Bike ?
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2019, 06:01:14 pm »
Dit verbyster my dat jy dit nie lankal gedoen het nie. Jy mis uit op ure se rytyd

Luitenant  ek lees dit as n uitkak en aanvaar dit so, want ek moes al lankal planmaak en die enigste rede is dan voel ek ek het geloose, want ek kan nie meer n normale bike ry. Dis n kop ding. :deal:
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Re: Sidecar Bike ?
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2019, 06:04:14 pm »
Dit verbyster my dat jy dit nie lankal gedoen het nie. Jy mis uit op ure se rytyd

Luitenant  ek lees dit as n uitkak en aanvaar dit so, want ek moes al lankal planmaak en die enigste rede is dan voel ek ek het geloose, want ek kan nie meer n normale bike ry. Dis n kop ding. :deal:

Dit is so, maar wat van die lekker van 'n nuwe ondervinding, terwyl jy steeds die blommetjies kan ruik.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2019, 06:05:26 pm by Gérrard »
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Re: Sidecar Bike ?
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2019, 06:21:23 pm »
Fanie Geyer {hy ook n wilddog} doen die ombouings al n geruime tyd....Sy nr: 0836542948
 

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Re: Sidecar Bike ?
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2019, 07:05:19 pm »
Fanie Geyer {hy ook n wilddog} doen die ombouings al n geruime tyd....Sy nr: 0836542948

Van waar is hy ?
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Re: Sidecar Bike ?
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2019, 09:57:13 am »
Ag WTF ? The 1150 was bought as the sidecar bike, so I'm just going to do it. Done a lot of research and had my people talk to other people. Its not so complicated and Humfree has offered his guidance. Much appreciated. (also have Woody in my ear all the time. he is mos now an expert  :lol8: ) The sidecar community is an amazing bunch with help generously offered.

So I reckon, get the wheel, swingarm and suspension sorted. Get the dimensions for the tub and build the frame around it. I'm not re-inventing the wheel and using the Ural frame concept. It works. The subframe for the 1150 is after all not that complicated. It basically replaces the belly pan with some extra strengthening joints.

And google is you best friend.  :biggrin:

First up then I'm using an 1150 rear wheel that I sourced from Backgatjaco, who has been very helpful and kind on the price.( For now this is very much a scratch, tight budget project)

Let the rest of the experts chime in. I intend to step by step document the build.  :thumleft:
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Re: Sidecar Bike ?
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2019, 10:09:23 am »
I is never an EXPERT.. I is just PRACTICAL :laughing4:

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Re: Sidecar Bike ?
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2019, 10:33:11 am »
I is never an EXPERT.. I is just PRACTICAL :laughing4:

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Re: Sidecar Bike ?
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2019, 10:37:13 am »
Who is riding the bike... you or wify ?  Easy decision.  If she does not want to ride in the sidecar, it is ALL MINE  :ricky:

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Re: My Sidecar Project
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2019, 11:52:08 am »
She'll come around. At least she does not freak out anymore when I mention the word sidecar. I've been on the project actively for about two weeks now and she just listens.  :3some:   When its there she'll get in, or like Woody says, I'll have lots of space to pack my shit for trips.  :lol8:
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Re: My Sidecar Project
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2019, 11:58:06 am »
This is the frame I'm copying and following this build on ADVrider  https://advrider.com/f/threads/the-albatross-1150gs-sidecar-build.1318549/

I've also downloaded a lot of info on specs for sidecar setup. And then I hope to get Humfree down for a looksee, before it all goes together (or, he has invited me to come visit his workshop to see how it goes together)
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Re: My Sidecar Project
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2019, 12:19:19 pm »
Het jy al ronde pyp MOOI gesweis.....

Ek was al daar en het die eerste probeerslag ge-scrap.
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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2019, 12:22:18 pm »
Het jy al ronde pyp MOOI gesweis.....

Ek was al daar en het die eerste probeerslag ge-scrap.
baie makliker om sq tubing aan mekaar te kry met mooi welds. :laughing4:

Ek gaan net tack my tjom Rudy gaan dit TIG weld.
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2019, 12:23:17 pm »
En om die res an die vraag te antwoord… ja, en ek kan ronde pyp sweis  :biggrin:
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2019, 12:25:21 pm »
Mooi  :thumleft:

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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2019, 12:27:28 pm »
Mooi  :thumleft:

En as ek nie kan nie, is die hele idee om te leer. Vra my weer as ek klaar is  :lol8:
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Re: My Sidecar Project
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2019, 12:35:21 pm »
En om die res an die vraag te antwoord… ja, en ek kan ronde pyp sweis  :biggrin:

Ek ook maar net die bokant ek sukkel met die onderkant  :biggrin:

Gerrard ek het nog nooit een gebou nie maar het daai Chang Jiang gehad vir so paar jaar. Dit is lekker pret MAAR maak net seker jy hou daarvan dit is nie almal se koppie olof en ys nie. As jy die ry kennis en ondervinding het great andersins gaan probeer dit eers uit. Die dynamics van sidecar ry is nie so maklik soos dit lyk nie. Ek sien jy stel dit as veiliger as twee wiele, hoe se die engelse.....nothing could be further from the truth  :ricky:
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