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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2019, 02:37:27 pm »
R2k for front and rear? that's a very good price!
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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2019, 03:31:09 pm »
I'm tired of the head shake so I'm putting on a new set of Karoo 3 tires. Hopefully this will cure it.

Bike Tyre Warehouse has a special on for R1 999

Dang, thats not bad, even if they do burn away real quick.  I only really need a rear right now though.

I have a brandnew Conti Attack rear tyre here by me. Bought as a 2nd tyre for my 1290 and sold it with the 1st one still being new.
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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2019, 03:38:47 pm »
I'm tired of the head shake so I'm putting on a new set of Karoo 3 tires. Hopefully this will cure it.

Bike Tyre Warehouse has a special on for R1 999

Dang, thats not bad, even if they do burn away real quick.  I only really need a rear right now though.

I have a brandnew Conti Attack rear tyre here by me. Bought as a 2nd tyre for my 1290 and sold it with the 1st one still being new.

I also have one :biggrin:  Well not brand new but not too bad.  I'm needing a knobbly to compensate for my shitty offroad skills. :biggrin:
 

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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2019, 11:12:50 am »
Went this morning to KTM Cape Town to test drive a 1290 SAR. Was a bit worried about the low speed head shake. Noticed it immediately and I was not very impressed. Only highlight of the test ride was the mid band power.
 

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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2019, 11:25:17 am »
Went this morning to KTM Cape Town to test drive a 1290 SAR. Was a bit worried about the low speed head shake. Noticed it immediately and I was not very impressed. Only highlight of the test ride was the mid band power.

That is front wheel balancing that is out.
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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2019, 11:26:44 am »
Went this morning to KTM Cape Town to test drive a 1290 SAR. Was a bit worried about the low speed head shake. Noticed it immediately and I was not very impressed. Only highlight of the test ride was the mid band power.

Are you comparing to an XT660?
I struggle with head shakes as well, but on my XT the front shocks was a little tired. It was my first head shake experience and SCARY
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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2019, 11:30:20 am »
Went this morning to KTM Cape Town to test drive a 1290 SAR. Was a bit worried about the low speed head shake. Noticed it immediately and I was not very impressed. Only highlight of the test ride was the mid band power.

Are you comparing to an XT660?
I struggle with head shakes as well, but on my XT the front shocks was a little tired. It was my first head shake experience and SCARY

Well, my XT is all shakes, but I am used to that. I was comparing the KTM to the GS1250 that I also tested a week ago which was dead quiet and solid at low speed.
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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2019, 11:45:37 am »
Maybe someone can elaborate, why does the GS in general struggle less with head shakes at all speeds? The biggest difference is the telelever front shock, can this be it?
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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2019, 12:42:22 pm »
Maybe someone can elaborate, why does the GS in general struggle less with head shakes at all speeds? The biggest difference is the telelever front shock, can this be it?

telelever maak n MOERSE verskil. Dis BMW se wen resep daai  :thumleft:
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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2019, 12:53:02 pm »
Maybe someone can elaborate, why does the GS in general struggle less with head shakes at all speeds? The biggest difference is the telelever front shock, can this be it?

telelever maak n MOERSE verskil. Dis BMW se wen resep daai  :thumleft:

Is seker. Ek het hom gelike, en haat die 'brake dive' tans....
of ek het, is dit nou al gewoond en vergete.

Die telelever het my ook nie offroad gepla nie maar die skerper manne se dit is n nadeel as die paaie baie slegter word.

Ek moet nog n nuwe GS op slegte terrain vat, maar ek ry te min om bike upgrade/vervang te regverdig, so sal maar keybord warrior bly, en nie krap waar dit nie jeuk nie
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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2019, 12:58:06 pm »
Mines fin up to the limiter at 205km/h (removable, if you're into high speed).

On knobblies, obviously it gets a littel shakey but never gets out of hand


My front rim is out though. Bike Tyre Warehouse measured it and said about 8 spokes are "off" and I can see the wheel wobbling when I stand and ride, but KTM say's it's fine  ::)
I think KTM's runout spec is pretty high.  I'm gonna let BTW true it and see how it feels afterwards.
 

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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2019, 01:13:36 pm »
Mines fin up to the limiter at 205km/h (removable, if you're into high speed).

On knobblies, obviously it gets a littel shakey but never gets out of hand


My front rim is out though. Bike Tyre Warehouse measured it and said about 8 spokes are "off" and I can see the wheel wobbling when I stand and ride, but KTM say's it's fine  ::)
I think KTM's runout spec is pretty high.  I'm gonna let BTW true it and see how it feels afterwards.

when I got my 1190 from Manic it was fine to 270kmph on the speedo, no weave.

Now after suspension change, some setup changes and extra scaffolding, depending on what tyres, how fresh or ripped to shreds they are, the wobble speed varies between 140 and 210 GPS speed.
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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2019, 02:07:23 pm »
Mines fin up to the limiter at 205km/h (removable, if you're into high speed).

On knobblies, obviously it gets a littel shakey but never gets out of hand


My front rim is out though. Bike Tyre Warehouse measured it and said about 8 spokes are "off" and I can see the wheel wobbling when I stand and ride, but KTM say's it's fine  ::)
I think KTM's runout spec is pretty high.  I'm gonna let BTW true it and see how it feels afterwards.

Not so worried about high speed stability as my Fireblade days are over, being an old ballie an'all. Just suprised at the fact that a new bike behaved like that at low speed. Not even my 13 year old XT is doing that.
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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2019, 02:10:30 pm »
Mines fin up to the limiter at 205km/h (removable, if you're into high speed).

On knobblies, obviously it gets a littel shakey but never gets out of hand


My front rim is out though. Bike Tyre Warehouse measured it and said about 8 spokes are "off" and I can see the wheel wobbling when I stand and ride, but KTM say's it's fine  ::)
I think KTM's runout spec is pretty high.  I'm gonna let BTW true it and see how it feels afterwards.

Not so worried about high speed stability as my Fireblade days are over, being an old ballie an'all. Just suprised at the fact that a new bike behaved like that at low speed. Not even my 13 year old XT is doing that.

That's definitely not normal.  I've ridden mine on all sorts of offroad and then track days and bombing the twisties in Sabie. No issues. I find the handling to be a bit quicker than the 1190....I think that's also what makes it feel a little twitchier at highway speeds though.

 

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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2019, 02:50:38 pm »
Front wheel balance eish bra.

Ive ridden a demo 800 once that shaked the living shit out of me, wheel balancing was out.

None of the 1290 bikes headshake at slow speed.

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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2019, 04:07:47 pm »
is dit nou die tire of die balance? Ek het nog nie die lus gehad om 'n nuwe voorwiel op te sit nie.
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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2019, 04:09:42 pm »
Front wheel balance eish bra.

Ive ridden a demo 800 once that shaked the living shit out of me, wheel balancing was out.

None of the 1290 bikes headshake at slow speed.

Maar ga koop n BMW, hulle is beter  :imaposer:

Still was happy with the bike overall. Just wish dealerships will make sure their demo bikes are in top nick, because your marketing means diddly squat if your demo bike does not put a smile on the face of a prospecting customer.

Still 50/50 about which is best, though that extra 40k for the Beemer might just be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

BTW, I went and did some internet research about this issue, and it seems the KTMs in general are very fussy with front wheel setup and balance. It must be perfect. Sort of the con with a suspension setup that provides direct feedback to the rider.
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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2019, 04:11:24 pm »
is dit nou die tire of die balance? Ek het nog nie die lus gehad om 'n nuwe voorwiel op te sit nie.

Balance jou voorwiel, as jy nogsteeds low speed headshake kry, moer tyre weg en koop nuwe een.

1290 kry n weave oor 200 as jy hol met n topbox etc agter op die bike.

Low speed weave is tyre related en nie n probleem vd bike nie.
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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2019, 04:21:14 pm »
My 1190r had a low speed shake which ended up being loose steering head bearings.
 

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Re: 1290 head shake
« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2019, 06:49:40 pm »
Went this morning to KTM Cape Town to test drive a 1290 SAR. Was a bit worried about the low speed head shake. Noticed it immediately and I was not very impressed. Only highlight of the test ride was the mid band power.
I wouldn't buy from that dealer then - if he has a demo bike that is not in order, he's probably not to be trusted

My 2015 KTM is rock solid at any speed and has never been otherwise, so it would be stupid to base your opinion on that ONE bike