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BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« on: May 22, 2019, 01:13:18 pm »
I have had quite a few people asking my opinion on my 1250, so thought I would share it here.

I am no riding god and never push the bike to the limit. My riding consists of commuting about 30kms round trip daily and some trips, mainly tar but dirt roads also. (maybe 80% tar and 20% dirt roads). I have ridden loaded with kit and with pillion a few times also.

I have done around 3500kms on the bike so far, with about 200kms being dirt roads, 2000kms being commuting and short weekend rides, and about 1300 on a long tar trip. These are my findings:

- The bike is about 1 ltr per 100kms heavier on fuel than my 2018 1200 GSA in all riding conditions. (i.e. loaded and commuting)
- The suspension is definitely better and gives a better ride especially on bad roads but if set in road mode and loaded it can feel a bit willowy.
- the motor is much smoother than the 1200
- The gear assist pro is smoother but 1st to 2nd is still a problem and I dont use it here.
- When accelerating hard it is not hard to keep the front wheel off of the ground in most gears.
- my front brakes squeak when being used at lower speeds. The 1200's never did.
- There is no heat from the cat like I had on my 1200 GSA where it basically burned my inside calf on days over 25 C
- Accelerating past vehicles at hiway speeds is definately better than the 1200

And thats pretty much it.

Would I do the same deal again? I probably would but I do admit that, that is not being sensible.

Would I recomend a 1250 over a 1200 to someone who has a fairly low mileage late model 1200? - No.

Its basically R100k (on trade in of my 2018), for slightly different looks, a smoother engine, and a fancy display instead of clocks and slightly better suspension and possibly slightly better acceleration. (oh and a 3 year warranty rather than a 2)

Would be interesting to see what the riders who ask more out of their bikes think.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2019, 03:54:56 pm by Brucet »
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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2019, 01:25:44 pm »
- The bike is about 1 ltr per 100kms on fuel than my 2018 1200 GSA in all riding conditions. (i.e. loaded and commuting)
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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2019, 01:32:06 pm »
I am no riding god and never push the bike to the limit


- When accelerating hard it is not hard to keep the front wheel off of the ground in most gears.

Riiiiight no-riding-god Bruce, pull the other one?  :lol8:
That, or show us a pic with you wheelie-ing in 6th gear!  :P
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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2019, 01:52:37 pm »
My HP gives off heat from the CAT.
My right leg gets very hot. Especially on high speed runs on warm days.

I have a vibration on my bike. My hands get needles and pins, and you can feel it through your ass. Had it by BMW and they say its 100%. They test rode it, also re balanced wheels. No change  :peepwall:
It starts to vibrate, at any speed or revs, the moment you keep the throttle steady. If you accelerate or let go of throttle its gone.

I have a clunking sound coming from the rear when you go over bumps. You can hear it and also feel it through the footpegs.

Otherwise, awesome bike  :thumleft:
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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2019, 02:13:31 pm »
I havent experienced any similar issues.
Only fuel consumption isn't great at 9l/100.

To me this bike vs 1200 lc is chalk and cheese. More power, smoother engine, gbox and shifter.
 

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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2019, 02:28:25 pm »
My gat, bene en hande raak lam :'(
Not nice.
Fark you BMW  :imaposer:   :imaposer:
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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2019, 02:39:21 pm »
I am no riding god and never push the bike to the limit


- When accelerating hard it is not hard to keep the front wheel off of the ground in most gears.

Riiiiight no-riding-god Bruce, pull the other one?  :lol8:
That, or show us a pic with you wheelie-ing in 6th gear!  :P

While accelerating hard the front wheel lifts about 20 to 30cms. That doesn’t take talent. 😂

Sorry OomD. Heavier
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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2019, 02:41:52 pm »
I havent experienced any similar issues.
Only fuel consumption isn't great at 9l/100.

To me this bike vs 1200 lc is chalk and cheese. More power, smoother engine, gbox and shifter.
DR 11 kilos per liter?!!! :o :o
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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2019, 03:07:19 pm »
Ek kan nie myne se sous onthou nie, maar ek weet as ek klaar vol gemaak het wys sy range 480km.
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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2019, 03:14:45 pm »
I havent experienced any similar issues.
Only fuel consumption isn't great at 9l/100.

To me this bike vs 1200 lc is chalk and cheese. More power, smoother engine, gbox and shifter.
DR 11 kilos per liter?!!! :o :o

Ja-nee, dit klink nie reg nie - as ek my 1290 moer hard ry, is die swaarste wat ek nog gekry het 7.9l/100km
 

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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2019, 03:20:02 pm »
I havent experienced any similar issues.
Only fuel consumption isn't great at 9l/100.

To me this bike vs 1200 lc is chalk and cheese. More power, smoother engine, gbox and shifter.
Suddenly my GS/A's 6.5L/100Km seems not so bad.  :lol8:
 

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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2019, 03:45:02 pm »
My 1200 was 4.7l per 100kms over the 19300 odd kms.

So far my 1250 is 5.7l per 100kms over 3500 odd kms.

Mate of mine on a Grey 1250 just got back from CT and has just over 4000kms on his bike and he is at 5.7l per 100kms also.
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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2019, 03:51:18 pm »
My HP gives off heat from the CAT.
My right leg gets very hot. Especially on high speed runs on warm days.

Perhaps I dont notice it as my 1200 was so bad I had to take my foot off of the peg and let it cool down. I dont have any of your other issues. Like you said the bike is awesome but not sensable.

I think in future I will skip a model if I can and depending on my bike not giving me problems and if there is not massive improvements. Right now I dont believe the 100k extra price tag that I paid, is worth the current improvements. But I still love the thing!
I met a guy this past weekend with a 2014 1200 LC GSA with just over 200k kms on it and he hasnt had any problems. So hopefully my 1250 will last the same.
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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2019, 10:12:25 pm »
Test rode the 1250 HP2 today on a trip to J Bay via Van Stadens Pass.
It is a lot of bike and fast.
Takes the corners in the pass with ease and accelerates into and out of the bends very well.
There is a vibe in second gear but this goes away as the revs climb past 4000.
Like the new TFT display.
The gear change takes getting use to but enjoyed opening it up and running up the gears till top and freely without any effort seeing 190 Km/h come up on the screen.
Suspension was set too hard for my liking but it tracked great even when bumped around on our famous road surface.
Highway acceleration from 120 Km/h is just amazing and effortless.

Would i swop it out for my GSA. Not likely as I have become very comfortable with my bike.
O yes. The seat must be better than mine as I had no pain in the arse after the ride whereas my bike requires an Air Hawk to keep me comfy.
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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2019, 08:58:15 am »
Test rode the 1250 HP2 today on a trip to J Bay via Van Stadens Pass.
It is a lot of bike and fast.
Takes the corners in the pass with ease and accelerates into and out of the bends very well.
There is a vibe in second gear but this goes away as the revs climb past 4000.
Like the new TFT display.
The gear change takes getting use to but enjoyed opening it up and running up the gears till top and freely without any effort seeing 190 Km/h come up on the screen.
Suspension was set too hard for my liking but it tracked great even when bumped around on our famous road surface.
Highway acceleration from 120 Km/h is just amazing and effortless.

Would i swop it out for my GSA. Not likely as I have become very comfortable with my bike.
O yes. The seat must be better than mine as I had no pain in the arse after the ride whereas my bike requires an Air Hawk to keep me comfy.



Accelerates "into" the bends Trevor? On Van Stadens pass?  Kudos to you and/or the bike!  :thumleft:
 

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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2019, 09:31:49 am »
I havent experienced any similar issues.
Only fuel consumption isn't great at 9l/100.

To me this bike vs 1200 lc is chalk and cheese. More power, smoother engine, gbox and shifter.

Agreed and I am very happy with mine, I just dont know that its R100k (for me) worth and feel if I had to tell someone its definately worth the upgrade that they would be 100% happy.

How do you ride to get that consumption?
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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2019, 01:48:32 pm »
I havent experienced any similar issues.
Only fuel consumption isn't great at 9l/100.

To me this bike vs 1200 lc is chalk and cheese. More power, smoother engine, gbox and shifter.
DR 11 kilos per liter?!!! :o :o

Ja-nee, dit klink nie reg nie - as ek my 1290 moer hard ry, is die swaarste wat ek nog gekry het 7.9l/100km

There's a big difference between riding the bike with full panniers; touring kit (weight) at 405km/h versus bear and solo at 120km/h.
There's a difference (lesser) between reading what the electronic display shows at any point and a manual calculation - try it yourself!

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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2019, 02:38:45 pm »
I must admit I havent worked out the consumption manually on either bike. I do agree with Brewed_Coffee that the screen read could be drastically different. to actual.
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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2019, 07:28:30 pm »
I havent experienced any similar issues.
Only fuel consumption isn't great at 9l/100.

To me this bike vs 1200 lc is chalk and cheese. More power, smoother engine, gbox and shifter.
DR 11 kilos per liter?!!! :o :o

Ja-nee, dit klink nie reg nie - as ek my 1290 moer hard ry, is die swaarste wat ek nog gekry het 7.9l/100km

There's a big difference between riding the bike with full panniers; touring kit (weight) at 405km/h versus bear and solo at 120km/h.
There's a difference (lesser) between reading what the electronic display shows at any point and a manual calculation - try it yourself!

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You guys made me feel guilty so I brought it down slightly  :snorting:
 

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Re: BMW 1250 GSA HP Feedback
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2019, 08:08:10 pm »

You guys made me feel guilty so I brought it down slightly  :snorting:
I noticed the redline starting at 5750, or thereabouts. Very low, but I see the engine temp is only 29 degrees. So I assume they lower the redline with a colder engine, and raise it as the temperature increases?

Damn I knew I should've patented that idea when I thought of it! I built an electronic speedometer for my Harley Davidson about 5 or 6 years ago, and the RPM indicator did exactly that! Starts out much lower, but increases as the engine warms up. No, in fact, I did this even earlier too on an electronic speedo I built for my little V-twin Honda steed I had 10 years ago!

Here's muy original thread on WD about the speedo. http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=145048 Notice the first vid has the redline just above 3000, while in the second vid the redline is up at 5300 or so.
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