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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #60 on: June 06, 2019, 07:34:54 am »
What is the max. all day cruising speed on tar with the 701's?

We took the tar road back from the EC bash to make up time and cruised most of the way at about 125-130 on the 690.
I have the small screen on which helps a bit, but thats about the speed one can cruise before it becomes tiring from the wind.

I would imagine the setup like Big Dom has will be a lot more comfortable at cruising speed

Yeah the wind tires you out before the speed is an issue for the bike. With the rally kit on (good wind protection) I used to cruise 145 in comfort and the bike was just fine.
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« Reply #61 on: June 06, 2019, 07:49:28 am »

Yeah the wind tires you out before the speed is an issue for the bike. With the rally kit on (good wind protection) I used to cruise 145 in comfort and the bike was just fine.

The bit that got me the most was when we hit a strong south easter and I got stuck behind a 4x4 towing a caravan. The turbulence behind him was really bad and struggled to keep it steady to pass him. He was cruising at 130 which made it even worse
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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #62 on: June 06, 2019, 07:59:19 am »
I prefer touring at no more than 120kph anyway, and that makes the bike perfect for me. I do the same speed on the 1090 /1290's as well so what's the point of the bigger bike.
It's touring and I like looking around.

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« Reply #63 on: June 06, 2019, 08:01:05 am »
Same here. What helps with the 690/701 is that you know there is more in reserve if you do need to open up and pass a vehicle.
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« Reply #64 on: June 06, 2019, 08:10:54 am »
Same here. What helps with the 690/701 is that you know there is more in reserve if you do need to open up and pass a vehicle.

 :thumleft: that's answered my next question, thanks.
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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #65 on: June 06, 2019, 08:14:23 am »
Same here. What helps with the 690/701 is that you know there is more in reserve if you do need to open up and pass a vehicle.

 :thumleft: that's answered my next question, thanks.

No need to worry about that. A 690 will keep up with your tracer up to 170
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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #66 on: June 06, 2019, 11:04:11 am »
Apart from Apex vs XPlor, the Motard has dual discs and different claipers if I am not mistaken so no not a straight swop. But you can get motard wheel set for the enduro

Frame different if I recall - steering rake is different.

Somebody told me quite recently that the 690 was originally designed as a Super Motard and adapted into a Enduro and that is the reason it was never a great Enduro.

I owed the 690 SM, which was the first 690 released, so there might be something to this.
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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #67 on: June 06, 2019, 11:41:49 am »
guys, I know a medium weight bike should be the best all round adventure bike but your pictures in this thread is disappointing.
You do not carry any point over, the roads in the pictures I could/and have done on big bikes, and would again choose the big comfortable bikes over the cramped 690.



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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #68 on: June 06, 2019, 11:56:42 am »
guys, I know a medium weight bike should be the best all round adventure bike but your pictures in this thread is disappointing.
You do not carry any point over, the roads in the pictures I could/and have done on big bikes, and would again choose the big comfortable bikes over the cramped 690.



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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #69 on: June 06, 2019, 12:05:34 pm »
What is the max. all day cruising speed on tar with the 701's?

We took the tar road back from the EC bash to make up time and cruised most of the way at about 125-130 on the 690.
I have the small screen on which helps a bit, but thats about the speed one can cruise before it becomes tiring from the wind.

I would imagine the setup like Big Dom has will be a lot more comfortable at cruising speed

Yeah the wind tires you out before the speed is an issue for the bike. With the rally kit on (good wind protection) I used to cruise 145 in comfort and the bike was just fine.

Yes spot-on. You may not cruise all day at 160 in your Gomma Gomma Lazyboy but 140 is just fine and at least then when you get to some decent riding you can ride it without being pushed and tugged.
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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #70 on: June 06, 2019, 12:12:59 pm »
By the way when was the PR7 included in the Subject? I think PR7 should have its own thread as is a totally different bike. Otherwise we should include the Husky TE610 and TE630 and probably a Honda XR650R and, and ...  :o :-\ :-[
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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #71 on: June 06, 2019, 12:20:35 pm »
guys, I know a medium weight bike should be the best all round adventure bike but your pictures in this thread is disappointing.
You do not carry any point over, the roads in the pictures I could/and have done on big bikes, and would again choose the big comfortable bikes over the cramped 690.



agg nee man, sit tegniese terrain fotos op? sell it

Die probleem met tegniese terrain is mens stop nie vir fotos nie, jy ry dit. Maar hier is een. Tensy jy @Kamanya  level sand baas is sal jy nie 'n groot bike bo op die duin kan kry nie. Party mense het geskeit met 450s.
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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #72 on: June 06, 2019, 12:21:12 pm »
The other thing people also tend to think when looking at a photo is "That's nothing, I can ride that on a big bike". Now that may be true but where the big difference comes in is riding a long tech route, multiple days in a row. Not just one very short hard stint that nearly killed you on a big bike anyway
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« Reply #73 on: June 06, 2019, 06:10:17 pm »
http://www.motomorgana.com/

Chech out these guys. They did 95 000km RTW on their 701's...

Edit: still the old models
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« Reply #74 on: June 06, 2019, 06:35:48 pm »
http://www.motomorgana.com/

Chech out these guys. They did 95 000km RTW on their 701's...

Edit: still the old models

Ja they were here  :thumleft:
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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #75 on: June 06, 2019, 07:49:38 pm »
http://www.motomorgana.com/

Chech out these guys. They did 95 000km RTW on their 701's...

Edit: still the old models

On a500 that would be 95 oil changes.
 

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« Reply #76 on: June 06, 2019, 07:52:36 pm »
http://www.motomorgana.com/

Chech out these guys. They did 95 000km RTW on their 701's...

Edit: still the old models

On a500 that would be 95 oil changes.

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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #77 on: June 06, 2019, 08:02:40 pm »
guys, I know a medium weight bike should be the best all round adventure bike but your pictures in this thread is disappointing.
You do not carry any point over, the roads in the pictures I could/and have done on big bikes, and would again choose the big comfortable bikes over the cramped 690.



agg nee man, sit tegniese terrain fotos op? sell it

Take your grand piano and shove it up your go 'play' in the technical. I have 250, 450, 610, 1000, and 1200 cc bikes ... they all have their place. I have taken a 1200cc where many have only dreamed of going but it is always a balancing act between 'talent' and bikes ability. This then becomes un-"comfortable" with the doctor and/or bank manager if/when you 'over-balance'  ::)  Far easier to take the correct weapon to the gunfight - you may get lucky with your Swiss Army knife and get a stab in but probably end up cutting your wrists later with the nail file.  :imaposer:


Don't get so sensitive, I am just asking for gunfight pics, not the tea party stuff where the 701 is actually the wrong choice of bike.

Nice one there Dwerg in the sand. I have watched those amageza clips often. I am definitely not at Kamanya level but also not very frightened by that sand, it's not that bad, I stay in the Kalahari. But then also, I fully realise I could do that for an hour and then I would be beat, definitely not for days.
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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #78 on: June 06, 2019, 09:48:44 pm »
guys, I know a medium weight bike should be the best all round adventure bike but your pictures in this thread is disappointing.
You do not carry any point over, the roads in the pictures I could/and have done on big bikes, and would again choose the big comfortable bikes over the cramped 690.



agg nee man, sit tegniese terrain fotos op? sell it

Die probleem met tegniese terrain is mens stop nie vir fotos nie, jy ry dit. Maar hier is een. Tensy jy @Kamanya  level sand baas is sal jy nie 'n groot bike bo op die duin kan kry nie. Party mense het geskeit met 450s.


Exactly!

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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #79 on: June 06, 2019, 10:49:25 pm »
guys, I know a medium weight bike should be the best all round adventure bike but your pictures in this thread is disappointing.
You do not carry any point over, the roads in the pictures I could/and have done on big bikes, and would again choose the big comfortable bikes over the cramped 690.



agg nee man, sit tegniese terrain fotos op? sell it

Die probleem met tegniese terrain is mens stop nie vir fotos nie, jy ry dit. Maar hier is een. Tensy jy @Kamanya  level sand baas is sal jy nie 'n groot bike bo op die duin kan kry nie. Party mense het geskeit met 450s.

Ahhh, that was a great day...



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