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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #80 on: June 07, 2019, 04:53:35 am »
Nou kry die draad mos rigting!
Sien ek sien heeltyd argumente soos hierdie, maar die voorbeelde maak nie sin nie. Grootrivierpoort het ek met n 1200GSA gedoen in dik reen byvoorbeeld. So mens kan dit nie juis ernstig vat nie.
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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #81 on: June 07, 2019, 07:01:44 am »
Love to see these threads where someone enjoys their bike so much that it becomes “The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!”

Nothing wrong with it, but shouldn’t  there be a further statement like:

..... for my type of riding, or;
..... in its modern day class.

Frankly, they have no competition in that market sector, or is there something I’m missing?  If there’s no competition, are they not both the best and the worst?

In the company of a GSA, AT etc. on a multi day gravel travel adventure, are they still the best?  Or, on a really technical ride, compared to the 500, still the best?  So it very much depends on your idea of adventure/DS riding?

My comments are not meant to be derogatory of the 690/701, rather light hearted banter.  I owned one and didn’t enjoy it, although the niggles could all be addressed by throwing money at it, ie suspension etc.  My opinion was however restored in them on the recent Kaokoland trip and there was stages that I was longing to be on one.

Truth be told, the best adventure/DS bike on the planet is still the KTM 640 Adventure.  :pot:

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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #82 on: June 07, 2019, 07:18:38 am »
Lekker Kobus. :lol8:
 

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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #83 on: June 07, 2019, 07:50:03 am »
Bit unfair to us lightbike brigade to post Kamanya and his tanker on here. I have never, and probably will never meet anyone in real life that is so able on a big bike.

Having said that, do not for one moment think that the GS will do the same, as the LC8 is just on another planet engine and chassis wise.

So you see, even among "big bikes" there are vast differences.

Of course, Kobus is correct in his post above, it's the combination of what suits each individual and our [most of us] desire to defend our riding choice that makes these "best bike for...." threads appear.

Personally, I love slower riding, I'll cruise all day at 110, and I'll sit in the saddle for hours on end, but I want the freedom to change course anywhere along a ride, into something very

technical if the chance presents itself, and a big motorcycle robs me of that.

I have never understood the thinking behind someone taking a GS1200 along a slightly difficult route, and then earns respect for it??

Is it not like a builder bragging that he does not use a wheelbarrow, he simply carries all the cement in his cupped hands?

Correct tools are there to make the job easier, and more enjoyable, not?
 

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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #84 on: June 07, 2019, 08:09:35 am »

I have never understood the thinking behind someone taking a GS1200 along a slightly difficult route, and then earns respect for it??

Is it not like a builder bragging that he does not use a wheelbarrow, he simply carries all the cement in his cupped hands?

Correct tools are there to make the job easier, and more enjoyable, not?

why not? He attempted and maybe succeeded at doing something difficult. Don't you congratulate someone that has done the comrades (or local parkrun) if it was a challenge for that guy? regardless if you could do better/more.
To commute with a bike 95% of the time and do very technical terrain for less than 1% of the time, its stupid to have a technical focussed bike, but he still got off the beaten track and got it dirty and himself challenged which is good.
The opposite of this is having a lifted bakkie with mud terrain tyres in spotless condition for town driving. this is the same as using that 690 as a daily but rarely seeing technical terrain. my dirty rundown rattling hatchback is parked next to a spotless kitted cruiser at this moment on the bad mine roads.
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« Reply #85 on: June 07, 2019, 08:16:39 am »
If I can add. I really like the pics by Noneking. In these discussions its always centred around how the bike can "also do 120kmph for the whole day" but there is never much focus on what is the actual positive things it can do. Up to those pics, a big bike would have been the better option. Actually it seems to me, half the people punting the smaller bikes rarely actually get them dirty, their bikes are spotless. Orange is the new black, or small is the new black, especially on the Wilddog forum.
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« Reply #86 on: June 07, 2019, 08:25:46 am »
Well I went from bigger (990 then AT) to the 690.
Its my every day ride, touring/playing all in one. As where the others.

I havent owned it long enough to compare them all out, but so far in my daily commute its a lot more fun and nimble.

I guess what makes me enjoy it more at the moment is having the comfort that if I see that little side road, I can take it and have a lighter more capable perhaps bike to do it on.
On the bigger bikes I would have probably avoided it. Or gone and really struggled

I even actually semi enjoyed riding sand the other day on the 690, which I hated on the heavier bikes.

But, this is me in my situation, with my skill level.
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« Reply #87 on: June 07, 2019, 08:43:42 am »
It's much less arduous to ride a 690 at 120 on a tar section than carry a GS1200 up Robbie's Pass.

In fact the tar bit on the 690 is also fun.
 

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« Reply #88 on: June 07, 2019, 08:48:24 am »
It's much less arduous to ride a 690 at 120 on a tar section than carry a GS1200 up Robbie's Pass.

In fact the tar bit on the 690 is also fun.

My first open road outing on the 690 I thought. mm.. ok I am going to miss the big bike. Would have cruised so easily at 120-130 and not do it at a slower pace than I am doing now.

Then I checked the speedo and realised ok.. wait I am going at 130 already.
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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #89 on: June 07, 2019, 09:03:38 am »
Yeah I'm going to miss this bike.









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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #90 on: June 07, 2019, 09:04:43 am »
I have a GSA that was perfectly suited to my last 8000km up and down Namibia on the B, C & D roads - made short work of the long distances on dirt, was the best bike by far for that trip...

I also have a 650 X-Challenge that is THE perfect bike for my Sunday morning blast around the koppies of the Deep South, it cruises down there at 120 on the highway too - Perfect!!

And I wouldnt do the opposite trips on either bike - although to be fair, the 650 would have handled the nam trip better than the 1200 in the koppies....

Next I need a 450/500 to do some rock/sand work....

So for me, I am fortunate to be able to choose the bike for the PLANNED trip - no planning = 650

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« Reply #91 on: June 07, 2019, 09:29:29 am »
I have a GSA that was perfectly suited to my last 8000km up and down Namibia on the B, C & D roads - made short work of the long distances on dirt, was the best bike by far for that trip...

I also have a 650 X-Challenge that is THE perfect bike for my Sunday morning blast around the koppies of the Deep South, it cruises down there at 120 on the highway too - Perfect!!

And I wouldnt do the opposite trips on either bike - although to be fair, the 650 would have handled the nam trip better than the 1200 in the koppies....

Next I need a 450/500 to do some rock/sand work....

So for me, I am fortunate to be able to choose the bike for the PLANNED trip - no planning = 650

But thats just my take.....

It makes sense what you write. If I had the choice I would love to have two bikes.
Maybe a 990/AT along with the 690. Gives me some options when I do go on a trip.

But only able to have one bike, I am giving the 690 a try to see how it copes as a multipurpose machine
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« Reply #92 on: June 07, 2019, 09:36:52 am »

It makes sense what you write. If I had the choice I would love to have two bikes.
Maybe a 990/AT along with the 690. Gives me some options when I do go on a trip.

But only able to have one bike, I am giving the 690 a try to see how it copes as a multipurpose machine

Makes sense to me - I would sell my 1200 to keep the 650....

And if its "Adventure" you want - I once rode a XT500 to Somalia and back - because that was what I could afford, so that was the Ultimate Adventure Bike".....
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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #93 on: June 07, 2019, 09:37:52 am »
It's much less arduous to ride a 690 at 120 on a tar section than carry a GS1200 up Robbie's Pass.

In fact the tar bit on the 690 is also fun.

I should think so, otherwise what is the point.
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« Reply #94 on: June 07, 2019, 09:38:42 am »


Makes sense to me - I would sell my 1200 to keep the 650....

And if its "Adventure" you want - I once rode a XT500 to Somalia and back - because that was what I could afford, so that was the Ultimate Adventure Bike".....

I drove a Yaris back cause I crashed my AT.. that was also an adventure  :biggrin:
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« Reply #95 on: June 07, 2019, 09:42:09 am »
I have to be honest my 690 is a turd compered to my old 610; I miss my 610  :'(
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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #96 on: June 07, 2019, 09:46:23 am »
If I can add. I really like the pics by Noneking. In these discussions its always centred around how the bike can "also do 120kmph for the whole day" but there is never much focus on what is the actual positive things it can do. Up to those pics, a big bike would have been the better option. Actually it seems to me, half the people punting the smaller bikes rarely actually get them dirty, their bikes are spotless. Orange is the new black, or small is the new black, especially on the Wilddog forum.

Just because your bike looks like it's run over a landmine doesn't mean a well looked after bike hasn't been places. Another two ticks for small bikes. a) Rough terrain is easier so drop it less often and b) They take less damage when they are dropped
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Re: 690/701/PR7 - The best adventure/DS bike on the planet!!
« Reply #97 on: June 07, 2019, 09:47:00 am »
Kamanya is jy nie op die 950 daar nie? Great riding

Well, it was then an 04 950 with a carburettor'd 990 Super Duke engine with Adventure gears.
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« Reply #98 on: June 07, 2019, 09:51:22 am »
I have to be honest my 690 is a turd compered to my old 610; I miss my 610  :'(

I know of a TE610 that may be coming on the market that I have my eye on.....
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« Reply #99 on: June 07, 2019, 09:59:47 am »
If I can add. I really like the pics by Noneking. In these discussions its always centred around how the bike can "also do 120kmph for the whole day" but there is never much focus on what is the actual positive things it can do. Up to those pics, a big bike would have been the better option. Actually it seems to me, half the people punting the smaller bikes rarely actually get them dirty, their bikes are spotless. Orange is the new black, or small is the new black, especially on the Wilddog forum.

Just because your bike looks like it's run over a landmine doesn't mean a well looked after bike hasn't been places. Another two ticks for small bikes. a) Rough terrain is easier so drop it less often and b) They take less damage when they are dropped

Your point (b)

Agree! Less damage to your bike AND to yourself when hitting the deck..