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BIKE SA- OLD AND NEW...
« on: July 23, 2019, 01:58:12 pm »
Is it only me, but i have never been able to finish an article written by Sir Alan Cathcart?
If i had to explain you would not understand anyway......
 

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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2019, 02:15:18 pm »
Is it only me, but i have never been able to finish an article written by Sir Alan Cathcart?

Why ?
 

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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2019, 02:18:43 pm »
Oh yipeeee!!!

We haven't had one of these for a while.

Just give it a few minutes...


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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2019, 02:28:29 pm »
Cathcart has a long and distinguished testing career.

Having said that, any test that appears in BikeSA is drawn out and conclusionless.
 
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2019, 02:37:39 pm »
He just seems to get in soooo much technical detail- no paragraphs, no interesting stories. But hey, that's just me. Howard Stafford and Nic Yell- they tell goood stories
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2019, 02:44:44 pm »
He just seems to get in soooo much technical detail- no paragraphs, no interesting stories. But hey, that's just me. Howard Stafford and Nic Yell- they tell goood stories

If you want a thorough test, Nick and Howie fall short, here Cathcart is your man.
 
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2019, 02:48:18 pm »
He just seems to get in soooo much technical detail- no paragraphs, no interesting stories. But hey, that's just me. Howard Stafford and Nic Yell- they tell goood stories

If you want a thorough test, Nick and Howie fall short, here Cathcart is your man.

 :thumleft: Jaaa boet. But to read an article oh hie is soooo boring. To me anyway :'(
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2019, 02:50:45 pm »
He just seems to get in soooo much technical detail- no paragraphs, no interesting stories. But hey, that's just me. Howard Stafford and Nic Yell- they tell goood stories

If you want a thorough test, Nick and Howie fall short, here Cathcart is your man.

 :thumleft: Jaaa boet. But to read an article oh hie is soooo boring. To me anyway :'(

 :thumleft: there is indeed something like being too professional, and Cathcart mostly sounds like he's writing for a science journal.

I like him though.
 

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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2019, 02:58:02 pm »
I appreciate his 40 years of bike journalism over a huge spectrum - testing, racing, interviewing and much, much more.AC is world widely respected as a journo.He however has a tendency of sometimes over indulging on the technical side of bike tests, but I am sure he has a captive audience for that side, me included. I agree, his reads are sometimes not easy and flowing but I read past that.
 
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2019, 04:36:06 pm »
Is it only me, but i have never been able to finish an article written by Sir Alan Cathcart?


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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2019, 05:00:01 pm »
I like the depth of Cathcart’s reviews. In fact he is quite unique in the modern world of motoring scribes. Most bike reviews be it local or even the American media are so shallow and superficial, I often feel cheated. Dirtbike and Dirt Rider spring to mind. Maybe with age and experience I feel jaded, or it’s because I already found the key data on the internet , but I find they tell me nothing. Even the pics are kak
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2019, 05:02:08 pm »
Sorry, not intending to blow smoke up anyones ass, but Fourie Junior’s articles have got better and better over the years. :thumleft:
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2019, 05:06:17 pm »
I appreciate his 40 years of bike journalism over a huge spectrum - testing, racing, interviewing and much, much more.AC is world widely respected as a journo.He however has a tendency of sometimes over indulging on the technical side of bike tests, but I am sure he has a captive audience for that side, me included. I agree, his reads are sometimes not easy and flowing but I read past that.

On the very other end of the scale you find Harry of "best D/S bike in the world" GS310 fame. :eek7:
 

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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2019, 06:27:37 pm »
I appreciate his 40 years of bike journalism over a huge spectrum - testing, racing, interviewing and much, much more.AC is world widely respected as a journo.He however has a tendency of sometimes over indulging on the technical side of bike tests, but I am sure he has a captive audience for that side, me included. I agree, his reads are sometimes not easy and flowing but I read past that.

100%  :thumleft:
I like technical reports
The Cycle magazine (USA) carried the best bike tests ever. Not only would the bikes be tested by the editor (Cook Nielson, ex road racing champion) and an in depth report on the bike compiled, but the other half of the test explained all the technical ins-and-outs, including pictures of a stripped down engine of the bike.
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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2019, 06:35:02 pm »
Sorry, not intending to blow smoke up anyones ass, but Fourie Junior’s articles have got better and better over the years. :thumleft:
Agree, I like his articles. They are informative and concise.

But, then he makes a remark in the last TV program about them being professional bike testers and can compensate for the road tyres fitted to a bike when they test a bike in the dirt.

Put a smile on my dial  ;D
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Re: BIKE SA- OLD AND NEW...
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2019, 06:37:23 pm »
Cathcart has a long and distinguished testing career.

Having said that, any test that appears in BikeSA is drawn out and conclusionless.

Can’t annoy the advertisers.

I like AC. Enjoy the articles.

Do prefer ole Howies ramblings. Guess as one mellows we don’t need to know just how many horses etc.
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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2019, 07:54:00 am »
He just seems to get in soooo much technical detail- no paragraphs, no interesting stories. But hey, that's just me. Howard Stafford and Nic Yell- they tell goood stories

Don't think I've ever read a Cathcart nor Charlie Cooper.

But Nic Yell and Howie are lekker.

I found the old Bike SA endearing because everything was gat-oor-kop but they spoke bike and that mattered.

Simon's index of advertisers was more accurate than the contents index.

I've mostly abandoned new Bike SA unless there is a Triumph or Ducati test inside. Maybe a Kawa too.

Migrated to Clinton's mag and Ride Fast and good to see Don is active there.
 
 

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Re: BIKE SA- OLD AND NEW...
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2019, 08:37:30 am »
AC is a motorcyclist. Can ride. Can write. Is intelligent . Immense pedigree.
The others are barkers. No more and no less.

I stopped buying and even free reading Bike SA years ago because there was nothing to read. Bike reviews were so vacuous and for the rest just pics rallies/pissups. And of course the beer hall.


 

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Re: BIKE SA- OLD AND NEW...
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2019, 09:38:24 am »
The 'old' Bike SA was to me, simply not worth it. Maybe 10 minutes of decent reading in a book full of 'padding'.

The post Simon version is better in that it certainly has more content, but I only bought the first couple of issues, then went back to occasional browsing.

I've read quite a lot of Alan Cathcart in various publications over many years, and although his writing sometimes is not easy reading it's always high quality and well worth the extra effort.