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Offline Offroadrider

Top Box and pannier designs
« on: July 30, 2019, 10:23:01 pm »
The low down,, I'm going to make an aluminium  top box and panniers and am looking for some input/ideas on what will be or make a really top grade box, thicker/stronger/ prettier?, what are your suggestions and what makes a good box, no idea is crazy so give me all your ideas on a fantasy box and panniers. what should it have/be and what should it not have/be?
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Re: Top Box and pannier designs
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2019, 11:57:03 am »
Yo Offroader

Single handed operation, fit 1/2 helmets, have cushion attachment for pillion, waterproof, easy to remove/install on bracket, mounting loops/bars to attach cables to.

 

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Re: Top Box and pannier designs
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2019, 01:21:46 pm »
Yo Offroader

Single handed operation, fit 1/2 helmets, have cushion attachment for pillion, waterproof, easy to remove/install on bracket, mounting loops/bars to attach cables to.
2 helmets would be a shipping container
 

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Re: Top Box and pannier designs
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2019, 01:26:21 pm »
Yo Offroader

Single handed operation, fit 1/2 helmets, have cushion attachment for pillion, waterproof, easy to remove/install on bracket, mounting loops/bars to attach cables to.
2 helmets would be a shipping container
No, not 2 helmets, halve a helmet, read again.
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Re: Top Box and pannier designs
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2019, 01:44:13 pm »
A Top Box is a difficult one I think, I ride an S10 and on my first one I lost the OME Top Box fortunately the guys riding behind me picked it up. I then bought the Trax Top Box, better box but also nearly lost it twice. The two bolts securing the mounting bracket closest to the rear seat broke off at the thread. I'm on my second S10 now with a Motorradical Top Box, best box I've had but with 14000 kms on the clock one of the rear support brackets "snapped or broke" in two. 
I don't know why I'm so hard on them as I do not put heavy goods in them or good that bounce around.
So, good luck with your endeavours, what one needs is a strong mounting platform, a box that is easy to open & close, water tight and maybe have a plug in the bottom if you use it as a cooler box / ice box.   
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Re: Top Box and pannier designs
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2019, 02:00:16 pm »
All I know is that Ill never have an alu pannier. After seeing the 1st guy go down and snap his leg on one I thought it was just a bad fall, then came across another rider from the Netherlands who fell and snapped his leg in 2 places after the leg dragged behind and connected the alu panniers

The best design is the design that wont snap body parts when you fall  IMO
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Re: Top Box and pannier designs
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2019, 02:46:10 pm »
Mounting is the weak area - look at that, as well as strengthening the sub-frame.

I built panniers at one point, top-boxes too - gave it up as no-one wanted to buy "home-made" panniers - so be aware that the SA buying public is into brand names - if you are thinking of building to sell.....

They need to be dust/water proof

Good Luck and post pics!!!

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Re: Top Box and pannier designs
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2019, 08:17:50 pm »
@Swift


you are not ‘heavy’ on S10top boxes, they most-all ‘guillotine’ bolts, sooner or later, which may/may not result in top boxes breaking free.


HEAPS about this on the web, but it affects: Yamaha OEM box + Trax/SW MOTECH + GIVI/Kappa + Globe Scout + Hepco & Becker ( IIRC). USA Adv rider has lots about his, and S10 forums, etc.


All down to design, so much so that we hesitate to sell, then warn customers about THIS SPECIFIC BKE, and top boxes, we spent on LOT on a specialist company, drilling out snapped bolts. Changing the bolts for a stronger bolt, or fully-thread bolts, or partially threaded bolt, most-often produced a snapped bolt, and/or supporting arm, etc.


All down to design.
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Re: Top Box and pannier designs
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2019, 08:32:43 pm »
Mounting is the weak area - look at that, as well as strengthening the sub-frame.

I built panniers at one point, top-boxes too - gave it up as no-one wanted to buy "home-made" panniers - so be aware that the SA buying public is into brand names - if you are thinking of building to sell.....

They need to be dust/water proof

Good Luck and post pics!!!

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I'm actually going to try and make stronger stuff than what's out there at the moment, no point in trying to sell them in SA, if it don't cost enough to impress friends then SA riders will never buy them.
 

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Re: Top Box and pannier designs
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2019, 12:39:56 pm »
Top boxes are more likely to break off when they are empty, not loaded. 

IMO, if you don't need the topbox, remove it.  Of course to do that it needs to be constructed in such a way that it can easily be removed.
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