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*** Sorted *** Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« on: August 27, 2019, 08:35:28 pm »
I have a lady friend (I've encouraged her to join the forum) that lives in Cape Town, she's recently learnt to ride and has her learners license..... so she's in the market for a bike.... and I've given her some ideas.......

She indicated that she would be doing some commuting - however she'd also like to explore and do trips around the country - starting off with shorter 1 - 2hr rides initially.

She has indicated that she likes the sound of a DS bike...  :sip: - she's around 1.67m tall...............  :ricky:

Her budget is around R40k ........ what say the collective.... what is available that's decent in the Cape area and would some of those exceptionally kind-hearted WD's be willing to assist her to check out some of the bikes available?

We would also like some of the LADIES on the forum to add their input with regard to a bike and gear.....

(I will get Gail to take over this thread as soon as her membership is approved  :deal: :thumleft:


IF ANYONE HAS A BIKE FOR SALE/AVAILABLE..... post pics and price please...  :peepwall:
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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2019, 08:44:42 pm »
 :sip: I'd say a Honda TransAlp 650 or 700cc, they are reliable and going at that price.  :3some:
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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2019, 08:47:24 pm »
DRZ400  :thumleft:

Or how about a secondhand CRF250L/Rally?
- you reckon that thing will pop a wheelie? We're about to find out, SLAP that pig!
 
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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2019, 09:13:51 pm »
DRZ400  :thumleft:

Or how about a secondhand CRF250L/Rally?
Rally would be a good bike but wont get one for 40. CRF250L yes
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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2019, 09:15:37 pm »
A great Yamaha TT-R250 has just been sold on this forum.
 

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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2019, 09:17:56 pm »
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=237558.0

Great bike for her, low, easy to ride...
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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2019, 09:25:41 pm »
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=237558.0

Great bike for her, low, easy to ride...

Look great - thanks   :thumleft:

@Coco ...come and join the fun!   :spitcoffee:

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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2019, 10:33:43 pm »
Look I'll probably be shouted down, but I think a 650 is a bad choice for a lady just starting out. The weight makes it intimidating for a beginner to progress on in my opinion.

Something like a TTR250 would be great as 2SD said.
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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2019, 11:26:50 pm »
Look I'll probably be shouted down, but I think a 650 is a bad choice for a lady just starting out. The weight makes it intimidating for a beginner to progress on in my opinion.

Something like a TTR250 would be great as 2SD said.
I agree with you on this one!
@Zanie will agree that when she went from 650 to Crf230 and rally that her confidence took a huge positive leap!
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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2019, 12:39:00 am »
Which bike did your lady friend learn to ride?

At her height, depending on her experience, I would encourage her to purchase a CRF or TTR 230.  Either will run for decades with minimal maintenance.

Maybe learn how to control the bike on gravel and sand first , then tarmac, this will allow her to focus on jaywalkers and chaos of riding metro areas knowing how to control the bike.  A light kit with turn signals can be added to make either road legal after she drops the bike learning to ride sand!
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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2019, 06:16:16 am »
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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2019, 07:01:47 am »
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=237558.0

Great bike for her, low, easy to ride...

Thanks Striggs

This bike is still available.  I'm sure we could work a plan with her budget.

These bikes are much lower than the normal F650 and can cruise on the open road all day well in excess of 120km/h.
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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2019, 07:13:12 am »
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=237558.0

Great bike for her, low, easy to ride...

Thanks Striggs

This bike is still available.  I'm sure we could work a plan with her budget.

These bikes are much lower than the normal F650 and can cruise on the open road all day well in excess of 120km/h.

Hopefully Coco does not mind me posting this pic....  this was her "learners" bike....

In my opinion, buying a bike with finance - means it would probably be a while before she changes bikes. If she starts of with a small bike...how soon would it be until she gains confidence and then "needs" to upgrade...and then the question is - would she be able to sell and buy bigger.
I was always taught that #1 a bike is designed to be upright and on its wheels..... and not lying down .... #2 the biggest difference between a 200cc/400cc/800cc/1200cc ... is how you twist the throttle......  and since I think she's not too much of a hooligan...she should be able to handle a larger cc bike no problem - as long as she learns and has the opportunity to gain her confidence. (I've offered her accommodation here in Napier and will take her on some stunning rides on tar & dirt to give her the "thrill")

Jughead - so far she really likes the G650 ...... but I cannot give her advice on the bike as I've no experience with that model...... had a XT550, BMW Dakar, BMW F650, Honda XR125 & GSA's ............  hence my ask for some Lady riders to also add some input.

I have also asked Tian (Bokkeman) about the G650 - his son apparently had one and he will give us some feedback.....

I'll send you a PM with some info as well...   :thumleft:

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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2019, 07:18:13 am »
This was the bike originally recommended for Coco....  thoughts?
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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2019, 08:30:27 am »
I know this is worn out old story but a 650 is a big bike for experienced riders.

Back in the 70's/80's only the toughest meanest riders dared riding a 28hp XT500 or XR500.
Today we recommend a 40hp 180kg bike to a learner girl. - CRAZY
To turn a bike on gravel at any cruising speed you have to be able to slide the bike and to get the confidence to to that you must not be intimidated by the machine. She'll be able to ride the big bike, but like 90% of adventure riders that's as far as she'll get and the chances of actually mastering bike riding are slim.

An XT250 is about the best choice at the moment and an ideal tourer for years to come. Honda 250 is also a good call if she has longer legs.

I've seen so many lady riders come and go, often because of poor bike choice.































 

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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2019, 08:32:07 am »
This was the bike originally recommended for her.... however.... how big is the resale market...?  :3some:
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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2019, 08:37:01 am »
Weight and seat height are very important for lady riders, depending on their physical strength. My wifes been riding for 30 odd years but at around 50kg, she found a Transalp too heavy. Easy enough to ride once on the go but try pushing it backwards out of a parking bay or even lifting it off the side stand on an off camber road. She now rides an MT07 and is very happy with it because of the low seat and it also feels like a small bike. Don't scare her off by getting a bike thats too big. Just my 2 zim dollars.
 

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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2019, 08:44:16 am »
I guess the hubby's want a bike fast enough for the wife to keep up with them.
The bigger 650 type will work for that on the tar but will work against them on the dirt.
A little 250 will do 100kph on the tar as wells the dirt,  which is probably the speed they ride their 1200 on the dirt. Check your speedo on the tighter rougher trails and be amazed at how slow you actually ride.
 

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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2019, 08:45:46 am »
Not all ladies are the same.

The petit ones normally prefer something smaller.

My wifed loved her DR 200, but found the DR 250 Djebel intimidating, only due to the wider 17 liter fuel tank.

Bought her another DR 200.

Excellent suggestions above.

@Goose . I'm sure you'll advise her to ride, or at least sit on the recommendations.

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Re: Advice for a new Lady Rider...?
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2019, 08:47:22 am »
For about R40k she can also consider a older F650GS. Very comfortable ride, smooth on the throttle, easy to ride and fairly cheap to maintain and comes with ABS and heated grips
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