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Re: Dakar 2020 - Saudi Arabia - Things you might not know.
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2019, 02:18:31 pm »
Watching Moto GP or other tar based racing is like watching paint dry.

As opposed to watching Dakar via 30 minute updates, once a day after 22:00? 
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Re: Dakar 2020 - Saudi Arabia - Things you might not know.
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2019, 03:53:55 pm »
Dakar? It's that Hilux thing, yes? Like in da kar?
 

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Re: Dakar 2020 - Saudi Arabia - Things you might not know.
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2019, 04:08:14 pm »
Quite ironic that a race that was forced out of Africa due to certain religious terrorism and threats has now moved to a country where only that same religion my be practiced ?

Indeed! And it is this same self-righteous arseholes that will go to France, build communities with their own mosques, but inter home-country you may not practise any other religion.

The Dakar must not go to Saudi, it will illustrate a total could-not-care-a-fuck attitude towards human rights.

Huh? You may practise other religions in most middle eastern countries. They are actually very open to it.. Thread drift of
 

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Re: Dakar 2020 - Saudi Arabia - Things you might not know.
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2019, 04:09:02 pm »
Watching Moto GP or other tar based racing is like watching paint dry.

+1 :thumleft:
 

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Re: Dakar 2020 - Saudi Arabia - Things you might not know.
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2019, 04:21:49 pm »
What are the reasons for moving it away from South America anyway?

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Re: Dakar 2020 - Saudi Arabia - Things you might not know.
« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2019, 06:03:47 pm »
What are the reasons for moving it away from South America anyway?

No money there. The oil princes are filthy wealthy.
 

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Re: Dakar 2020 - Saudi Arabia - Things you might not know.
« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2019, 06:09:03 pm »
Quite ironic that a race that was forced out of Africa due to certain religious terrorism and threats has now moved to a country where only that same religion my be practiced ?

Indeed! And it is this same self-righteous arseholes that will go to France, build communities with their own mosques, but inter home-country you may not practise any other religion.

The Dakar must not go to Saudi, it will illustrate a total could-not-care-a-fuck attitude towards human rights.

Huh? You may practise other religions in most middle eastern countries. They are actually very open to it.. Thread drift of

But the Dakar is not moving to "most middle eastern? countries, go read up about the Saudi's.
 

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« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2019, 01:25:22 am »
And for the dogs planning on going, some basic rules...

Saudi Arabia is a Muslim country in which Islamic law is strictly enforced. You should respect local traditions, customs, laws and religions at all times and be aware of your actions to ensure that they do not offend. This is true, but should you not behave in any country?

The public practice of any form of religion other than Islam is illegal. Do the mean like standing on the street corner and practice their religion?

Islamic codes of behaviour and dress are strictly enforced. Women should wear conservative, loose-fitting clothes as well as a full length cloak (abaya) and a headscarf. Men should not wear shorts in public. No its not strictly enforced. Saudi women need to wear a headscarf, expat women not. BS story about men wearing shorts in public.

Homosexual or extra-marital sexual relations, including adultery, are illegal and can be subject to severe penalties. It’s also illegal to be transgender. Transgender people travelling to Saudi Arabia are likely to face significant difficulties and risks if this is discovered by the authorities. True, fucked-up law BTW

Penalties for the possession of, or trade in alcohol are severe. Both result in prison sentences. True

If you bring medication with you, carry a doctor’s prescription. Not entirely true. If it contains something like morphine yes then bring your prescription. In the UAE possession of codeine is against the law, however you can buy pain killers containing codeine in KSA.

Importing pork products is forbidden. True

The possession of pornographic material, or of illustrations of scantily dressed people, especially women, is prohibited. True

Electronic devices may be screened by customs officials on arrival and departure. True, however my electronic devices have never been screened, nor that of my colleagues.

The punishment for smuggling drugs includes the death penalty. True, however lots of offenders get a 4 year sentence followed by deportation. This same law apply in Indonesia and no one is complaining.

You should avoid photographing local people. Binoculars should not be brought into Saudi Arabia and may be confiscated at the port of entry. This is also borderline BS, ask permission and they will say Y or N. Dont know about the farlookers though

The Human Rights Foundation (HRF) last week issued a statement urging sponsors to cancel sponsorship, citing Saudi Arabia’s criminalisation of homosexuality and its systemic repression of women's rights.

Homosexuality is illegal and punishable by death in the Gulf State, ruled over by King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud. In April, the Saudi authorities beheaded five men who allegedly confessed to having had gay sex.

Despite attempts at reform, women in Saudi Arabia are still subject to a myriad of restrictions on everyday life. Here are some of them:
Human Rights Watch has called Saudi Arabia’s guardianship system “the most significant impediment to realising women’s rights in the country”. All women in the kingdom are considered to have a male “wali” – an official guardian, typically a father, brother, uncle or husband. This law have been changed about a month ago

Although guardianship is not enshrined in written law, government officials, courts, businesses and individual Saudis generally act in accordance with it, meaning that, in practice, women need their guardian’s consent for any major activity, including travel, obtaining a passport, getting married or divorced and signing contracts. Read comment above

The system makes it “nearly impossible” for victims of domestic violence or sexual abuse to obtain legal redress, because the police often insist that women and girls obtain their guardian's authorisation to file a complaint - even when the complaint is against the guardian, explains political scientist Elham Manea in an article for German newspaper Deutsche Welle. This is still the case and fucked-up beyond believe, however things are slowly changing

In May 2017, activists won a small but significant victory when King Salman issued an order specifying that women did not need permission from their male guardian for some activities, including entering university, taking a job and undergoing surgery.

Women’s rights groups in the country are now lobbying for the end of guardianship in Saudi society, often using the social media hashtag “#IAmMyOwnGuardian”.

In 2015, Saudi Arabia proposed hosting an Olympic Games without women. “Our society can be very conservative,” said Prince Fahad bin Jalawi al-Saud, a consultant to the Saudi Olympic Committee. “It has a hard time accepting that women can compete in sports.”

When Saudi Arabia sent female athletes to the Olympics for the first time, at London 2012, hardline clerics denounced the two competitors as “prostitutes”. The women also had to be accompanied by a male guardian and cover their hair.

Women are required to limit the amount of time spent with men to whom they are not related. The majority of public buildings, including offices, banks and universities, have separate entrances for the different sexes. I have never seen different entrances for the different sexes.

Public transportation, parks, beaches and amusement parks are also segregated in most parts of the country. Unlawful mixing can lead to criminal charges being brought against both parties, but women typically face harsher punishment. Have not seen this segregation, however single men are mostly not allowed between families. Some restaurants do have a section for single persons and families.

Courtesy from Grizz: In this day and age religion is often frowned upon, but I have met some of the most amazing people from various religions over time.
From Buddhists to Sikhs, through Muslims and Christians and everything in between, there are many good people out there and if you do not allow yourself to be swayed by petulant religious opinion, the world is an awesome place with the odd idiot in between trying to make it rubbish for others.
 

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« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2019, 07:07:03 am »
Ek sal drank kan opgee om daar te ry.

Ek dink nie ek sal soveel opoffer nie.
















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Re: Dakar 2020 - Saudi Arabia - Things you might not know.
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2019, 08:38:08 pm »
Think I'll give it a miss, stay here and get rat arse drunk
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