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DR650SE oil drainage issue
« on: September 14, 2019, 11:04:22 am »
[does google etc searches, then comes here]
So this morning it's service time.
I took out the oil filter, and immediately noticed that the oil was not draining out of there like it usually does.
Most of it of course spilled out, making a nice mess for me to clean, but this last bit took about 10 minutes to drain.
Anything I should be worried about? Is there a blocked tube somewhere which I need to go looking for?
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2019, 11:48:40 am »
A stupid reply perhaps ....but why are you draining your oil from the oil filter hole ???
Why don't you drain it via the sump plug  :sip: :sip:
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2019, 12:15:13 pm »
A stupid reply perhaps ....but why are you draining your oil from the oil filter hole ???
Why don't you drain it via the sump plug  :sip: :sip:
I take out the sump plug and undo the filler cap, so most of the oil drains out. I then open the oil filter, at which stage most of the oil should be out already, but this morning it was just sitting in the oil filter compartment, shortly to drain out onto the garage floor. The bit in the photo should have gone down and out through the sump plug, but did not do so, that is my worry.
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2019, 02:50:01 pm »
I can remember it to be a a messy affair.

Always plenty rags to absorb the oil that came out the oil filter housing.

Confirm your concern is that you didn't have this oil in the oil filter housing before?
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2019, 02:53:19 pm »
Leon. Can you post a pic of where the oil channel openings are in that housing, besides the centre one for the oil filter?
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2019, 08:53:32 pm »
Leon. Can you post a pic of where the oil channel openings are in that housing, besides the centre one for the oil filter?
The suspect drainage hole.
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2019, 08:54:38 pm »
So as you can see, the oil is supposed to drain out of that hole in the bottom, and out through the sump plug.
This is now taking 10 minutes!
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2019, 08:22:09 am »
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2019, 08:37:17 am »
be careful of that bike Leon.
their engines explode and cripple your wallet.
just leave it where ever it is and walk away.
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2019, 08:46:25 am »
be careful of that bike Leon.
their engines explode and cripple your wallet.
just leave it where ever it is and walk away.
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The suspect drainage hole.

Maybe the third gear is stuck in that hole :peepwall: ;) :pot:
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2019, 08:48:52 am »
Maybe the third gear is stuck in that hole :peepwall: ;) :pot:

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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2019, 09:05:31 am »
I would blow some compressed air into the hole and check again with some oil, hopefully it will seat the 3rd gear again.
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2019, 09:31:24 am »
I would blow some compressed air into the hole and check again with some oil, hopefully it will seat the 3rd gear again.
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2019, 10:22:02 am »
Dont know those engines all that well, but is there possibly a non-return valve in the oil channels somewhere? These valves would prevent all the oil draining into the sump to prevent the camshaft and head bearing from running dry upon startup.

If you crank the engine over with the sparkplug out, does that oil then still pump out? If so, then I reckon there's no promblem.

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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2019, 11:20:55 am »
I also doubt there is a problem, would still put some air in there
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2019, 11:51:31 am »
Dont know those engines all that well, but is there possibly a non-return valve in the oil channels somewhere? These valves would prevent all the oil draining into the sump to prevent the camshaft and head bearing from running dry upon startup.

If you crank the engine over with the sparkplug out, does that oil then still pump out? If so, then I reckon there's no promblem.

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Thanks Tommy, didn't think of doing that.
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2019, 06:59:17 am »
Mine does that as well, and has done for the last 4 or 5 oil changes. I just mop it up and carry on, and the bike always runs beautifully...

But iím no expert...
 

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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2019, 07:34:21 am »
Mine does that as well, and has done for the last 4 or 5 oil changes. I just mop it up and carry on, and the bike always runs beautifully...

But iím no expert...
That seems to be the opinion of others I've spoken to as well.
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Re: DR650SE oil drainage issue
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2019, 11:44:28 am »
Ok, so a lot of time has passed, with loads of frustration, but I seem to have a bike again.

I filled her with oil, using normal castrol GTX.
On changing the spark plug I got worried that I had dropped shit down the spark plug hole, but that is another issue.
Problem was, the bike had stood for a week without oil. So I put oil in, and new issue immediately - When I kick the bike into gear, with the clutch pulled in, the bike lunges forward and dies. Now what! Obviously, in my mind the clutch has now gone. Phone calls, quotes, more phone calls. More quotes.
DieselDave phones back, he reckons it's just the plates sticking together because the bike stood without oil for so long.
Right, get back to CG's place, warm the engine up properly this morning (After going through a lot of trouble to get the clutch cable set as the ahem - internet - says it should be).
It worked, plus I remembered that old KLR trick of blipping the throttle a few times before dropping it into gear.
I'm not happy though, it feels as if the bike wants to run forward even with the clutch pulled all the way in. I decide to dump the GTX and go back to Motul semi - synth. Phone Dawie, he agrees, and I do this.
So now the bike is much better, I can find nuetral again. I think the GTX will take a day or two to fully work off the clutch, then everything should be back to normal.
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