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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #200 on: April 27, 2020, 07:59:06 pm »
Vis Arend from Rhodes via Lundeans (Lundins) to Hogsback is over 600km, is there any place in between you can recommend to camp or stay over ? The area seems pretty sparse in between ? I reckon 600km plus for one day with those passes will mean riding into the night which is not a good idea.

I have so far :

Musina - Haenertsburg (430km)
Haenertsburg - Hazyview (472km)
Hazyview - Chrissiesmeer (356km)
Chrissiesmeer - Wakkerstroom (140km)
Wakkerstroom - Van Reenen (399km)
Van Reenen - Himeville (252km)
Himeville - Rhodes (439km)
Rhodes - ?
Hogsback - Somerset East (296km)
Somerset East - Steytlerville (399km)
Seytlerville - Baviaans (185km)
Baviaans - De Rust (227km)
De Rust - Beaufort West (257km)
Beaufort West - Sutherland (293km)
Sutherland - Wellington (473km)
Wellington - Cape Agulhas (250km)


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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #201 on: April 27, 2020, 08:21:51 pm »
Vis Arend from Rhodes via Lundeans (Lundins) to Hogsback is over 600km, is there any place in between you can recommend to camp or stay over ? The area seems pretty sparse in between ? I reckon 600km plus for one day with those passes will mean riding into the night which is not a good idea.

I have so far :

Musina - Haenertsburg (430km)
Haenertsburg - Hazyview (472km)
Hazyview - Chrissiesmeer (356km)
Chrissiesmeer - Wakkerstroom (140km)
Wakkerstroom - Van Reenen (399km)
Van Reenen - Himeville (252km)
Himeville - Rhodes (439km)
Rhodes - ? - Hogsback

For sure, you will not do that route in one day.  The best will be to do a small detour and cabin in Elliot, the next day to Hogs, but from Elliot I will stay over in King William's Town or Stutterheim before going to Hogs.  That will give you more time to explore Hogs, waterfalls and the like, and/or do a route or two there.       
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #202 on: April 27, 2020, 08:29:22 pm »
Vis Arend from Rhodes via Lundeans (Lundins) to Hogsback is over 600km, is there any place in between you can recommend to camp or stay over ? The area seems pretty sparse in between ? I reckon 600km plus for one day with those passes will mean riding into the night which is not a good idea.

I have so far :

Musina - Haenertsburg (430km)
Haenertsburg - Hazyview (472km)
Hazyview - Chrissiesmeer (356km)
Chrissiesmeer - Wakkerstroom (140km)
Wakkerstroom - Van Reenen (399km)
Van Reenen - Himeville (252km)
Himeville - Rhodes (439km)
Rhodes - ? - Hogsback

For sure, you will not do that route in one day.  The best will be to do a small detour and cabin in Elliot, the next day to Hogs, but from Elliot I will stay over in King William's Town or Stutterheim before going to Hogs.  That will give you more time to explore Hogs, waterfalls and the like, and/or do a route or two there.     
Great, yes maybe a rest day In Hogsback is also a good idea
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #203 on: April 28, 2020, 09:19:41 am »
You guys seem to be putting together one awesome route here, I'll be keeping an eye on this for oneday when I may ride again.

Thanks for all the effort, guys! :thumleft: :thumleft:
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #204 on: April 28, 2020, 01:37:34 pm »
Very interesting, I'll assist where I can.

I would also think you need to visit the coast sometime in the route.  Maybe in the T-Kei.
@shark_za where would you suggest on the Transkei Coast ? What about Port St Johns ? Can maybe do that stretch before heading towards Hogsback
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #205 on: April 28, 2020, 01:41:07 pm »
Big thanks to Noneking for route at Kruger down to Barberton, Losper and Slim Jim for routes around Lesotho and KZN, Vis Arend for the EC, Fixer for recommending some scenic passes in the WC.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #206 on: April 28, 2020, 02:14:27 pm »
Wait wait... how many TSAT threads are there now? Can they not be merged?

And thanks for all the route suggestions, gents! :thumleft:
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #207 on: April 28, 2020, 02:35:07 pm »
Thanks guys, busy with trucks and permit letters coming out my ears-
CT to  Baviaans we must include  Sewepasse George to Knysna and before that choose between Ouberg rd/sewe weeks and or the Augulas/Pont roads- Sutherland we have to weigh up against Cederberg or Tankwa padstal on the return to CT

Thanks again for the effort- will make a plaque with all the names on :thumleft:- just waiting for those laid back Natal and Northern province boytjies

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #208 on: April 28, 2020, 02:58:46 pm »
Wait wait... how many TSAT threads are there now? Can they not be merged?

And thanks for all the route suggestions, gents! :thumleft:
It's like Covid 19 threads
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #209 on: April 28, 2020, 04:00:13 pm »
Big thanks to Noneking for route at Kruger down to Barberton, Losper and Slim Jim for routes around Lesotho and KZN, Vis Arend for the EC, Fixer for recommending some scenic passes in the WC.

now we need a real time ride to see how much leave is needed for the trip  :biggrin:
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #210 on: April 28, 2020, 04:03:32 pm »
Big thanks to Noneking for route at Kruger down to Barberton, Losper and Slim Jim for routes around Lesotho and KZN, Vis Arend for the EC, Fixer for recommending some scenic passes in the WC.

now we need a real time ride to see how much leave is needed for the trip  :biggrin:
I would say 2 weeks if you ride hard. Three weeks for going nowhere slowly  :ricky:
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #211 on: April 28, 2020, 04:21:44 pm »
Big thanks to Noneking for route at Kruger down to Barberton, Losper and Slim Jim for routes around Lesotho and KZN, Vis Arend for the EC, Fixer for recommending some scenic passes in the WC.

now we need a real time ride to see how much leave is needed for the trip  :biggrin:

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #212 on: April 28, 2020, 07:50:30 pm »
XT JOE,  yes I agree, Sewe passe must be included.

Have a look at my map, I have made the following suggestions:
On page 1 in this thread the map runs thru the Namaqua Coast National park all along the west coast. Although it is a great track I personally think that specific section is too sandy for this application. Find attached my suggestion, the yellow line.

Have a look at the blue line, I have included "Quteniqua pass" with "Sewe passe" and "Kom se pad" all the way thru Baviaans via Angie's.

The green line and red line I have already discussed earlier in this thread.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #213 on: April 29, 2020, 12:07:21 pm »
I think this is a really great idea, but need to point out that any foreigners arriving to do this would land in JHB or CT. CT is easy to pick up the track North. Jhb not so.
So if someone wants to start from Jhb and do the whole route are there any seperate sections that can be included between Jhb and Messina to the jump-off point so there is no duplication of routes?
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #214 on: April 29, 2020, 12:11:00 pm »
I think this is a really great idea, but need to point out that any foreigners arriving to do this would land in JHB or CT. CT is easy to pick up the track North. Jhb not so.
So if someone wants to start from Jhb and do the whole route are there any seperate sections that can be included between Jhb and Messina to the jump-off point so there is no duplication of routes?
Good point Steve. It would open the area west of the N1 for a route. And that's also a beautiful area, with lots of game farms. For overseas folks, seeing all the game next to the roads would be thrill I reckon.
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #215 on: April 29, 2020, 01:13:07 pm »
Messina is 500km from Oliver Tambo International.  That's one day out of a international visitors holiday .
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #216 on: April 29, 2020, 01:15:41 pm »
I don't think anyone wants to tab it on the slab to get there, just add another bit of adventure.

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #217 on: April 29, 2020, 01:30:26 pm »
route difficulty and remoteness classification.

I would say one should have different levels of routes classification
For example
the main route can be RED loop
but there can be sections coming of it for the more adventurous in green or blue.
single track or very technical jeep track or sandy section the average joe won't necessary wanna do

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #218 on: April 29, 2020, 01:56:11 pm »
Still a few posts to read, but would like you to include our area routes. Will cut out a tar stint

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #219 on: April 29, 2020, 02:03:08 pm »
I think this is a really great idea, but need to point out that any foreigners arriving to do this would land in JHB or CT. CT is easy to pick up the track North. Jhb not so.
So if someone wants to start from Jhb and do the whole route are there any seperate sections that can be included between Jhb and Messina to the jump-off point so there is no duplication of routes?
Good point Steve. It would open the area west of the N1 for a route. And that's also a beautiful area, with lots of game farms. For overseas folks, seeing all the game next to the roads would be thrill I reckon.

Probably also find that a majority would just start from Jhb downwards.
What about looking at loops? West of Jhb upto Messina and East back down and so on around the major cities.
Sorry if I'm over-complicating this. :)
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