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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #240 on: May 01, 2020, 05:22:31 pm »
If you are looking for a route north from Joburg, and which has a purpose, then an option is to follow the Crocodile River from its inception in Krugersdorp to where it joins the Limpopo, and then to follow the Limpopo. A rough route is attached.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #241 on: May 01, 2020, 06:32:56 pm »
If you are looking for a route north from Joburg, and which has a purpose, then an option is to follow the Crocodile River from its inception in Krugersdorp to where it joins the Limpopo, and then to follow the Limpopo. A rough route is attached.
That looks like a great option as well
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #242 on: May 01, 2020, 06:41:05 pm »
Just a concern here.............
I have done many of the tracks mentioned in this thread and some of them are not easy achievable with big adventure bike if you not a VERY good rider.
The idea of the TAT is a route possible by 80% and the "extra" difficult options marked in red. How is this gonna work? Not the same as the TAT?
If you target is the overseas market they will 90% rent a bike and be big trouble.
OR do i misunderstand the purpose of this initiative ?
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I would say 90% of the route will be extremely easy going if you have ridden dirt before. Factors like rain can make things very tricky but not much one can do about that. Can mark difficult sections in red, Bezuidenhouts Pass and Mitchells I see is pretty rough. As for the rest I dont know, Baviaans for instance unless there has been a lot of rain I donít find very difficult at all ?
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #243 on: May 01, 2020, 09:32:50 pm »
As Cyril nou daai deure oopmaak, ry ek sommer die TET en die TAT, heeltemal plat.

Stem Daan- ek het darem so 6 trips werk toe gehad in laaste 2 weke-N2 is n droom en bike ry was lank laas so lekker :thumleft:
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #244 on: May 01, 2020, 09:36:13 pm »
Agree 100%.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #245 on: May 01, 2020, 10:02:11 pm »
Working on loan pc at home so no maps to be viewed- and as i prefer to see the roads connecting the towns my initial thoughts as below.  Alternative routes to be added and maybe points of interest, and then accommodation possibilities maybe.  It s up to the individual as to how far they wish to travel so we can just lay it out and mention  difficult allow for more time in relevant sections. Km based on Google maps which which we have found not 100% so hold the whip. Below is two options- without  faffing to much which do you think is ideal- or alternative just stick to map co ords

Starting in Cape Town head out on N2
1/R44 or scenic R43 to Hermanus Stanford Gansbay ,Elim Augulas- (fromCT 225km )
Augulas to Bredasdorp right Malgas, crossing the pont to Vermaaklikheid and then Stillbay (from CT 435km)

or
2/Head north out of Stillbay on R305 for 16km turn right on Hectorskraal dirt rd 20 km later T junction N2 turn right and left into Albertinia take road north to Herbertsdale, at about 20 km follow sign turning right to Herbertsdale, 6 km out of town on the dirt road forks take right and 15 km later at t junction left and another 20km t junction with R328 tar road- take left to Oudshoorn

From Oudshoorn head south east towards George on N12 and where the roads join the N9 take a left towards Uniondale and after 9 km take a right on the historic Montague pass dirt road- travel 17 scenic km join N12 again into George. Staying on N12 through George take the Sewe Passe road to your left- for 75 km travel this scenic dirt road through little villages of Karatara ,Rheenedal finishing outside Knysna. Take N2 left to Knysna and on the eastern side of town take a left on the R339 Prins Alfreds pass. T junction with R62 right and immediate left staying on the R339

Any thoughts- will fill in the next bit onwards to Lesotho in next section :clock: :computer:

Driving North on R339 12 km to Uniondale top up fuel and 27km north on N9 you get the Baviaanskloof R332-
drive 200km of the finest dualsport roads in the country to Patensie-
Over Hankey 40 km on R331 to N2 turn left and after 10 km left off on R102 to Uitenage
Travelling north on R334 to Uitenage and out north east on R75 to Addo Elephant park 77km away
At Addo take the R342 right to Paterson 25 km-
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #246 on: May 02, 2020, 12:01:27 am »
XT Joe,  have a look at this track.

The section between Barrydale and Seweweekspoort refers.
I am no "expert" of this area but I have ridden this track many years ago and can specifically remember it to be very scenic, it also included a number of great passes namely:
Moodies, Doringkraal , Seekoeigat, Wadrift, Gysmanskloof, Rooiberg, Huisrevierpass (part of the scenic Route 62) and Seweweekpoort pass.

The other advantage of this track is that it includes Swartberg pass (a must do as everybody knows ) and then further south it joins up with Montague pass.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #247 on: May 02, 2020, 08:13:48 am »
Yes, Pieter, that is a very good suggestion for a route through that area. It could also be mentioned that at the end of Seweweekspoort, one can turn right into the Bosluiskloof, to the Gamkaspoortdam.

This is a one-way though, and the rider will have to come back out to Seweweekspoort, befor etaking the Vleilandroad to the Ladismith-Laingsburg road again. Very scenic, that Bosluiskloof, and one can meet

eccentric old Fox Liederboer, the self-appointed kamp-kommandant of Gamkaskloofdam. :biggrin:

The road that runs parallel to the N1 from the Laingsburg road to the Prins Albert road/Prince Albert has a gate or two in it. :eek7: :biggrin:  Near the end of this road, it is also easy to take a wrong turning at

a fork and end up on the N1 instead of the Prins Albert access road. At the fork one has to go left.
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #248 on: May 02, 2020, 08:48:24 am »
Yes, Pieter, that is a very good suggestion for a route through that area. It could also be mentioned that at the end of Seweweekspoort, one can turn right into the Bosluiskloof, to the Gamkaspoortdam.

This is a one-way though, and the rider will have to come back out to Seweweekspoort, befor etaking the Vleilandroad to the Ladismith-Laingsburg road again. Very scenic, that Bosluiskloof, and one can meet eccentric old Fox Liederboer, the self-appointed kamp-kommandant of Gamkaskloofdam. :biggrin:

The road that runs parallel to the N1 from the Laingsburg road to the Prins Albert road/Prince Albert has a gate or two in it. :eek7: :biggrin:  Near the end of this road, it is also easy to take a wrong turning at

a fork and end up on the N1 instead of the Prins Albert access road. At the fork one has to go left.

This is almost a must if you are in that area.   :thumleft: :thumleft:
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #249 on: May 02, 2020, 02:55:02 pm »
Both skiing and MTB follow the same colour coding for difficulty and there is logic to do the same and use the same colours. Green (beginners), blue (intermediate), red (advanced intermediate) and black (expert). See attachments.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #250 on: May 07, 2020, 10:06:22 am »
XT Joe,  have a look at this track.

The section between Barrydale and Seweweekspoort refers.
I am no "expert" of this area but I have ridden this track many years ago and can specifically remember it to be very scenic, it also included a number of great passes namely:
Moodies, Doringkraal , Seekoeigat, Wadrift, Gysmanskloof, Rooiberg, Huisrevierpass (part of the scenic Route 62) and Seweweekpoort pass.

The other advantage of this track is that it includes Swartberg pass (a must do as everybody knows ) and then further south it joins up with Montague pass.
Find attached the gpx file for download:
Agree-  will change and modify
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #251 on: May 08, 2020, 04:34:45 pm »
Not sure how many has seen where  the original long distance adv motorcycle travel started   
quite a eccentric clown this Austen Vince, really enjoyed their interesting V.I.N.C.E  ride  in Catalunya Spain

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #252 on: May 08, 2020, 04:55:39 pm »
Any way back to our ride and thanks for all the guys planning and working on this- will have nice update over this weekend :lamer:
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #253 on: May 08, 2020, 08:04:16 pm »
XT Joe,  there you go, this is my suggestion.

The section between Patensie and Rhodes was supplied by Vis Arend.
The section north of Ermelo was supplied by Noneking.

I have divided it up into 8 parts simply because a single gpx file would be too big to upload.
Find below the gpx files 1 to 4 for download: (tracks 5 to 8 will be in the next post)
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #254 on: May 08, 2020, 08:07:10 pm »
Tracks 5 to 8 for download:
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #255 on: May 08, 2020, 09:22:40 pm »
Thanks Pieter for stitching this together so far and all the other guys for sharing. Got to put some km in the natal midlands still and then our cousins in north west, please add some detail.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #256 on: May 09, 2020, 09:34:55 am »
Thoughts on Limpopo/northwest to N/cape section
Turning left Ofcolaco over the Orrie Baragwanath pass to Zebediela and over Vaalwater to Thabazimbi, accommodation suggestions
Thabazimbi to Dwaalboom to Sesobe and Zeerust
Zeerust to Ottoshoop to Slurry, Mahikeng, Disoneng to Tosca/Vergelee/Bray any accommodation
Bray to Vanzylsrus,Askham and Molopo lodge
Molopo lodge, Augrabies, Riemvasmaak, maybe Onseepkrans and onto Pella
Pella, Pofadder, Kliprand, Niewoudtville, Wupperthal to Oasis in Cederberg
From Oasis on route joins with Lospers again.
Pleases add suggestions advice on this.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #257 on: May 09, 2020, 08:20:29 pm »
Thoughts on Limpopo/northwest to N/cape section
Turning left Ofcolaco over the Orrie Baragwanath pass to Zebediela and over Vaalwater to Thabazimbi, accommodation suggestions
Thabazimbi to Dwaalboom to Sesobe and Zeerust
Zeerust to Ottoshoop to Slurry, Mahikeng, Disoneng to Tosca/Vergelee/Bray any accommodation
Bray to Vanzylsrus,Askham and Molopo lodge
Molopo lodge, Augrabies, Riemvasmaak, maybe Onseepkrans and onto Pella
Pella, Pofadder, Kliprand, Niewoudtville, Wupperthal to Oasis in Cederberg
From Oasis on route joins with Lospers again.
Pleases add suggestions advice on this.
Orrie is tough since you cant get access travelling from the north as far as I know. XT Joe we should combine forces, I have a semi decent webpage and everything  :deal:

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #258 on: May 11, 2020, 08:51:08 am »
Tracks 5 to 8 for download:
My suggestion to replace track 8, the pass running from Badplaas is a very nice ride and you cut out some tar taking it. I would also not go over Ermelo and rather stay on dirt towards Chrissiesmeer ?
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #259 on: May 12, 2020, 04:13:33 pm »
Got a few guys who promised detail on the down leg from Zeerust and the like to Askam and also the next bit to Cederberg where we could maybe add in the Richtersveld, always been on the bucket list, getting a bit worried if two will be enough ;) We will get there and thanks for input here.
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