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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #260 on: May 18, 2020, 04:52:21 pm »
I merged the topics on XT JOE's request. Should I leave it under General or movie it to planning a ride?
I think it will get more exposure under General

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #261 on: May 18, 2020, 09:32:14 pm »
2017 I rode around SA and visited every border post. Rode as close to oceans and borders as possible. 8500km anyone is welcome to contact me for info on routes etc
 
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #262 on: May 19, 2020, 12:22:40 pm »
TSAT North and South as I have it now

Both will have breakout rides from GP to join the track (TSAT south breakout not shown here)

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #263 on: May 20, 2020, 12:57:50 pm »
OK here is my contribution after being asked by XT Joe to assist with the KZN section of the route.

My route runs from Amersfoort in the North to the start of Sani Pass.

It is a 2 day route, with a highly recommended overnight stop at Zingela, which is about half way through the route.

The route is 681km in length, it is probably 90% on dirt roads, it is all on public roads and should be fine for an average rider on a 1200.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #264 on: May 20, 2020, 03:25:27 pm »
Really like this idea. Great work to all involved.  :thumleft:

Some suggestions:
1. You need a banner on the beta site's landing page "shouting" out the trail's name. Although the logo is awesome, it's a bit hidden.
2. Considering foreigners, one would have to be very clear around visa requirements if the route goes out of SA and into Lesotho or Swazi.
3. In terms of funding, maybe consider a certificate of completion, for a small fee. Such as the Ironbutt Association does, or the Aussie Hard Arse Rider Challenge.

Keep up the good work.  :ricky:
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #265 on: May 21, 2020, 09:09:26 am »
OK here is my contribution after being asked by XT Joe to assist with the KZN section of the route.

My route runs from Amersfoort in the North to the start of Sani Pass.

It is a 2 day route, with a highly recommended overnight stop at Zingela, which is about half way through the route.

The route is 681km in length, it is probably 90% on dirt roads, it is all on public roads and should be fine for an average rider on a 1200.
@JonW , the route I have runs more to the west (Bezuidenhouts, Spioenkop, Bergville, Underberg etc) . Have you ridden this section and which one would you prefer ?
« Last Edit: May 21, 2020, 10:59:12 am by sidetrack »
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http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=134175.0 Penge's pass and the Old Forest http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=9421.0 - Orange Atlantic adventure http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=7514.0 - 805 km day trip http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=20260.0 - East Cape Bash http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=70199.0 - Two KTM thumpers head north
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #266 on: May 21, 2020, 09:17:53 am »
Damn so many dirt roads the most tricky bit is deciding on which one is the most scenic !
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http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=134175.0 Penge's pass and the Old Forest http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=9421.0 - Orange Atlantic adventure http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=7514.0 - 805 km day trip http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=20260.0 - East Cape Bash http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=70199.0 - Two KTM thumpers head north
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #267 on: May 21, 2020, 09:52:29 am »
Little bit of point but i just looked at ioverlander website or app and its amazing. Camping spots all over the world including everywhere on the TSAT.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #268 on: May 21, 2020, 10:14:38 am »
Little bit of point but i just looked at ioverlander website or app and its amazing. Camping spots all over the world including everywhere on the TSAT.
Cheers.
Great now to merge the two  :thumleft:
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http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=134175.0 Penge's pass and the Old Forest http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=9421.0 - Orange Atlantic adventure http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=7514.0 - 805 km day trip http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=20260.0 - East Cape Bash http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=70199.0 - Two KTM thumpers head north
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #269 on: May 23, 2020, 10:58:15 am »
OK here is my contribution after being asked by XT Joe to assist with the KZN section of the route.

My route runs from Amersfoort in the North to the start of Sani Pass.

It is a 2 day route, with a highly recommended overnight stop at Zingela, which is about half way through the route.

The route is 681km in length, it is probably 90% on dirt roads, it is all on public roads and should be fine for an average rider on a 1200.
@JonW , the route I have runs more to the west (Bezuidenhouts, Spioenkop, Bergville, Underberg etc) . Have you ridden this section and which one would you prefer ?

Sidetrack I am sure your route is cool, I think I have done most of those roads.

I prefer the route that I came up with because it takes you through the real KZN, past historic sites such as Rorkes Drift and through the bush of the Tugela Valley.

I can't see exactly where some of your route goes as you didn't post the gpx file, but I think a lot of it is on straight roads that go past miles of mielie fields, great if your objective is to get through as quickly as possible.

I wouldn't include Bezuidenhout's in the route, can get gnarly and may be too much for an average rider on a 1200.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #270 on: May 23, 2020, 12:04:46 pm »
OK here is my contribution after being asked by XT Joe to assist with the KZN section of the route.

My route runs from Amersfoort in the North to the start of Sani Pass.

It is a 2 day route, with a highly recommended overnight stop at Zingela, which is about half way through the route.

The route is 681km in length, it is probably 90% on dirt roads, it is all on public roads and should be fine for an average rider on a 1200.
@JonW , the route I have runs more to the west (Bezuidenhouts, Spioenkop, Bergville, Underberg etc) . Have you ridden this section and which one would you prefer ?

Sidetrack I am sure your route is cool, I think I have done most of those roads.

I prefer the route that I came up with because it takes you through the real KZN, past historic sites such as Rorkes Drift and through the bush of the Tugela Valley.

I can't see exactly where some of your route goes as you didn't post the gpx file, but I think a lot of it is on straight roads that go past miles of mielie fields, great if your objective is to get through as quickly as possible.

I wouldn't include Bezuidenhout's in the route, can get gnarly and may be too much for an average rider on a 1200.
Great thanks, real KZN sounds good  :thumleft:
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http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=134175.0 Penge's pass and the Old Forest http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=9421.0 - Orange Atlantic adventure http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=7514.0 - 805 km day trip http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=20260.0 - East Cape Bash http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=70199.0 - Two KTM thumpers head north
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #271 on: May 24, 2020, 08:19:36 pm »
You need to ask Tommy transalp and Draad to go for a ride up bezuidenhouts and give you there opinion because I to agree that it is to rough for heavier adventure bikes doing a long trip . It could put a person off the route .
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #272 on: May 25, 2020, 09:58:49 am »
Conceptually I also like how these guys manage this iconic hiking trail.

https://appalachiantrail.org/explore/
 
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #273 on: May 25, 2020, 07:30:34 pm »
OK here is my contribution after being asked by XT Joe to assist with the KZN section of the route.

My route runs from Amersfoort in the North to the start of Sani Pass.

It is a 2 day route, with a highly recommended overnight stop at Zingela, which is about half way through the route.

The route is 681km in length, it is probably 90% on dirt roads, it is all on public roads and should be fine for an average rider on a 1200.
@JonW , the route I have runs more to the west (Bezuidenhouts, Spioenkop, Bergville, Underberg etc) . Have you ridden this section and which one would you prefer ?

Sidetrack I am sure your route is cool, I think I have done most of those roads.

I prefer the route that I came up with because it takes you through the real KZN, past historic sites such as Rorkes Drift and through the bush of the Tugela Valley.

I can't see exactly where some of your route goes as you didn't post the gpx file, but I think a lot of it is on straight roads that go past miles of mielie fields, great if your objective is to get through as quickly as possible.

I wouldn't include Bezuidenhout's in the route, can get gnarly and may be too much for an average rider on a 1200.
Great thanks, real KZN sounds good  :thumleft:

This weekend I am going to do part of my route, from Weenen up towards Pomeroy.

Will take a few pics along the way.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #274 on: May 26, 2020, 09:15:32 am »
OK here is my contribution after being asked by XT Joe to assist with the KZN section of the route.

My route runs from Amersfoort in the North to the start of Sani Pass.

It is a 2 day route, with a highly recommended overnight stop at Zingela, which is about half way through the route.

The route is 681km in length, it is probably 90% on dirt roads, it is all on public roads and should be fine for an average rider on a 1200.
@JonW , the route I have runs more to the west (Bezuidenhouts, Spioenkop, Bergville, Underberg etc) . Have you ridden this section and which one would you prefer ?

Sidetrack I am sure your route is cool, I think I have done most of those roads.

I prefer the route that I came up with because it takes you through the real KZN, past historic sites such as Rorkes Drift and through the bush of the Tugela Valley.

I can't see exactly where some of your route goes as you didn't post the gpx file, but I think a lot of it is on straight roads that go past miles of mielie fields, great if your objective is to get through as quickly as possible.

I wouldn't include Bezuidenhout's in the route, can get gnarly and may be too much for an average rider on a 1200.
Great thanks, real KZN sounds good  :thumleft:

This weekend I am going to do part of my route, from Weenen up towards Pomeroy.

Will take a few pics along the way.
Great  :thumleft:
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http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=134175.0 Penge's pass and the Old Forest http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=9421.0 - Orange Atlantic adventure http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=7514.0 - 805 km day trip http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=20260.0 - East Cape Bash http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=70199.0 - Two KTM thumpers head north
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #275 on: May 26, 2020, 12:23:58 pm »
Updated TSAT south now includes Jon's KZN track. Limpopo part still to be confirmed but I think the rest is good to go. Small detour to Morgans Bay included for someone wanting to go to the sea on route
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http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=134175.0 Penge's pass and the Old Forest http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=9421.0 - Orange Atlantic adventure http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=7514.0 - 805 km day trip http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=20260.0 - East Cape Bash http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=70199.0 - Two KTM thumpers head north
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #276 on: May 26, 2020, 12:37:57 pm »
I see tt bypasses Transkei. I've never ridden there, but I understand it is prime riding world. Or is it too rough? A stop at hole in the wall would be a nice add-on.
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #277 on: May 26, 2020, 12:39:57 pm »
Some advice from the guys who have ridden this. The Long Tom and southern Sudwala option I know well. There is also an route that one can take north (purple) which includes a bit of tar but takes you past Bourkes Luck, God's Window etc. More of a sight seeing cruise whilst the southern part is more dirt. Which option would you say ? Both leads to Hazyview and connects to the Kruger fence ride.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2020, 12:40:41 pm by sidetrack »
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http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=134175.0 Penge's pass and the Old Forest http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=9421.0 - Orange Atlantic adventure http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=7514.0 - 805 km day trip http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=20260.0 - East Cape Bash http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=70199.0 - Two KTM thumpers head north
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #278 on: May 26, 2020, 12:42:18 pm »
I see tt bypasses Transkei. I've never ridden there, but I understand it is prime riding world. Or is it too rough? A stop at hole in the wall would be a nice add-on.
It would but it might be out of the way a bit, still an option. Never ridden there so have to plot some routes.
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http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=134175.0 Penge's pass and the Old Forest http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=9421.0 - Orange Atlantic adventure http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=7514.0 - 805 km day trip http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=20260.0 - East Cape Bash http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=70199.0 - Two KTM thumpers head north
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #279 on: May 26, 2020, 12:49:04 pm »
I see tt bypasses Transkei. I've never ridden there, but I understand it is prime riding world. Or is it too rough? A stop at hole in the wall would be a nice add-on.
It would but it might be out of the way a bit, still an option. Never ridden there so have to plot some routes.

I would include those as POI or Accom options/detours.
Travellers can choose to go there, but it takes quite some time to travel safely.
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