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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2020, 04:16:22 pm »
Plenty of routes to take, too much in fact. SA is amazing as soon as you think well this must be a tar section and you zoom in you will see dirt service roads all over the place.
I made the start point Musina and Cape Agulhas the end point. Three routes will be possible. One running East to West through the Northern Cape / Ricthersveld and down the West Coast. Second up and over Lesotho then south west and the third passing below Lesotho both heading west.

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Magoebaskloof
Kaapsehoop MP
Paulpietersburg plantations
Passes of North East KZN
Eastern Freestate (when passing below Lesotho this can be the Midlands)
Dropping down to Hogsback
Coming back via Grootrivier and Baviaans
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Last bit down part of the West Coast

I would guess you would need about 2 weeks, no idea about mileage so far. Maybe 4000-5000km ?
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #61 on: April 08, 2020, 04:50:44 pm »
I would think that it should be planned starting on either side of the country from the international airports then looping the country so that a person could start at either side but still complete the same route by the time you get back to your starting point.  This will make it more attractive to the international people .
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #62 on: April 08, 2020, 06:00:42 pm »
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #63 on: April 08, 2020, 10:27:04 pm »
I registered a domain and some hosting as it was not too expensive, heck it's a start. Working on some routes but it's taking ages. Most will have to be verified as one cannot always go on Google Earth to see gates etc. Also I'm not very good at designing a website. So if anyone is willing to help let me know.
Then there is also the question do you really want to give everyone in the world the tracks ?
What if mister farmer is not happy about the increase in traffic can he blame the website ?

All will be service / public roads but it's sometimes an contentious issue. Main aim is to hopefully support some of the smaller rural towns if possible.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #65 on: April 08, 2020, 10:36:00 pm »
Red bits already more than 3500km of tracks, maybe 10% tar. No technical stuff included, can be done with any DS bike
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #66 on: April 08, 2020, 10:36:37 pm »
Red bits already more than 3500km of tracks, maybe 10% tar. No technical stuff included, can be done with any DS bike
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #67 on: April 08, 2020, 10:54:19 pm »
I registered a domain and some hosting as it was not too expensive, heck it's a start. Working on some routes but it's taking ages. Most will have to be verified as one cannot always go on Google Earth to see gates etc. Also I'm not very good at designing a website. So if anyone is willing to help let me know.
Then there is also the question do you really want to give everyone in the world the tracks ?
What if mister farmer is not happy about the increase in traffic can he blame the website ?

All will be service / public roads but it's sometimes an contentious issue. Main aim is to hopefully support some of the smaller rural towns if possible.
Well WD sharing is a good place to start. Then when people start moving on the roads you can get a feel of what the opinions are of the local farmers about the traffic. Then it can go bigger from there.

I would love the tracks for this. 3500km stretch is a bit much for me but the part from Bloem to Baufort west looks very attractive
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #68 on: April 08, 2020, 11:18:25 pm »
I registered a domain and some hosting as it was not too expensive, heck it's a start. Working on some routes but it's taking ages. Most will have to be verified as one cannot always go on Google Earth to see gates etc. Also I'm not very good at designing a website. So if anyone is willing to help let me know.
Then there is also the question do you really want to give everyone in the world the tracks ?
What if mister farmer is not happy about the increase in traffic can he blame the website ?

All will be service / public roads but it's sometimes an contentious issue. Main aim is to hopefully support some of the smaller rural towns if possible.
Well WD sharing is a good place to start. Then when people start moving on the roads you can get a feel of what the opinions are of the local farmers about the traffic. Then it can go bigger from there.

I would love the tracks for this. 3500km stretch is a bit much for me but the part from Bloem to Baufort west looks very attractive
It misses Bloem and goes further south through Winburg starting near Henneman. I have ridden this track and know it's good. No gates or dead ends.

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #69 on: April 09, 2020, 12:49:40 pm »
Red bits already more than 3500km of tracks, maybe 10% tar. No technical stuff included, can be done with any DS bike

thanks for input

Could be a difficult one -flipping a coin for free state or transkei but i imagine you could have both just ride the one or the other and somewhere in the front join on same route again

Any suggestions for the Natal Limpopo and the North west area which i really know least about
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« Reply #70 on: April 09, 2020, 01:13:51 pm »
Red bits already more than 3500km of tracks, maybe 10% tar. No technical stuff included, can be done with any DS bike

Could add some nice tracks between Lydenburg and Tzaneen area.... :peepwall:
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #71 on: April 09, 2020, 01:26:00 pm »
Red bits already more than 3500km of tracks, maybe 10% tar. No technical stuff included, can be done with any DS bike

Could add some nice tracks between Lydenburg and Tzaneen area.... :peepwall:
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #72 on: April 09, 2020, 08:19:58 pm »


Also I'm not very good at designing a website. So if anyone is willing to help let me know.
I can help you with the website. Just PM me with what you're thinking the website needs to do and we can take it from there.


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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #73 on: April 10, 2020, 10:46:16 pm »
If it is going to be an international offering it will have to include places like;
Kruger Fences, Northern Natal Battlefields, Drakensberg, Sani Pass, Hole-in-the-Wall etc, etc, etc, etc.

Obviously will make it more difficult to plan and route.

Maybe make a 3-part edition which will require the people coming back.

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #74 on: April 11, 2020, 06:05:33 am »
Did Durban to Cape town with 200 km tar and 2800 km dirt

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #75 on: April 11, 2020, 06:18:58 am »
Sorry just tuned in to this thread.
I think a good idea is to have dogs in specific areas bring up the best routes and then to stitch all of them together.

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #76 on: April 11, 2020, 07:28:10 am »
My thoughts.

What I think is important is to include fuel and camping (bike friendly) options along the route. Part of the practicalities of riding.

Being in SA, some consideration might have to be given that a foreigner more than likely have to rent a bike and all the camping gear which becomes burdensome.

Would be interesting to see how many local adventure riders actually want to do the route and try to cater to getting their participation.

South Africa is big and expect different people in various regions to contribute a section of route which could then be connected together centrally. 
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #77 on: April 11, 2020, 10:05:28 am »
If it is going to be an international offering it will have to include places like;
Kruger Fences, Northern Natal Battlefields, Drakensberg, Sani Pass, Hole-in-the-Wall etc, etc, etc, etc.

Obviously will make it more difficult to plan and route.

Maybe make a 3-part edition which will require the people coming back.

My R20-to-the-US$ suggestion.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #78 on: April 11, 2020, 10:06:19 am »
Sorry just tuned in to this thread.
I think a good idea is to have dogs in specific areas bring up the best routes and then to stitch all of them together.

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #79 on: April 11, 2020, 10:08:36 am »
My thoughts.

What I think is important is to include fuel and camping (bike friendly) options along the route. Part of the practicalities of riding.

Being in SA, some consideration might have to be given that a foreigner more than likely have to rent a bike and all the camping gear which becomes burdensome.

Would be interesting to see how many local adventure riders actually want to do the route and try to cater to getting their participation.

South Africa is big and expect different people in various regions to contribute a section of route which could then be connected together centrally.
Agree places of interest and accommodation will be NB. Also will support the locals
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