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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #300 on: August 07, 2020, 10:55:25 am »
I have made the 1st post the one where updates are made to the route
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #301 on: August 07, 2020, 10:57:13 am »
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #302 on: August 07, 2020, 11:07:13 am »
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #303 on: August 07, 2020, 11:10:03 am »
Also the idea of the TSAT is to have the most scenic enjoyable riding on roads open to the general public. We can have a look at a more technical challenging one at a later stage but I think as per above will appeal to most people and visitors.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #304 on: August 11, 2020, 10:52:40 am »
Input please, two options for the Eastern Cape section. Red option quite remote and a longer ride, no options yet for a sleepover. Approaches Hogsback from the South and offers more scenic and technical riding. Blue to the left will run through Queenstown and Cathcart, you will enter Hogsback from the north. Thoughts ?

@Vis Arend if you don't mind looking at these two options ? I know option 1 is the route you submitted, the other one allows for more towns to be visited but not sure what the riding is like. Option 1 is tough to find accommodation and is quite a stretch from Rhodes to Hogsback. Tracks attached below
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #305 on: August 11, 2020, 03:19:14 pm »
Very good suggestion @Bloggs, and not detracting in the least from the TSAT. You make good points in terms of tourism being the lifeblood of many small towns. I would like to add guest farms to that as many farmers also rely heavily on tourism to boost revenues. They can also offer a unique experience and input for especially foreign tourists.

I would also like to see a possible alternative route around the north western and/or central part of the country that typically is neglected to a large extent. Towns that could be included (some not that small) are Vanzylsrus, Kuruman, Upington, Keimoes, Pofadder, Pella, Carnarvon, Vanrhynsdorp, Ceres etc. Maybe an interlinking route between your suggestion and my proposed route could be included.

Just a few things to think about.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #306 on: August 11, 2020, 05:07:25 pm »
Input please, two options for the Eastern Cape section. Red option quite remote and a longer ride, no options yet for a sleepover. Approaches Hogsback from the South and offers more scenic and technical riding. Blue to the left will run through Queenstown and Cathcart, you will enter Hogsback from the north. Thoughts ?

@Vis Arend if you don't mind looking at these two options ? I know option 1 is the route you submitted, the other one allows for more towns to be visited but not sure what the riding is like. Option 1 is tough to find accommodation and is quite a stretch from Rhodes to Hogsback. Tracks attached below

I did Hogsback to Rhodes in one day, quite easily with heavy loaded bike and pillion (i.e. not going very fast!  ;D). So not a must to take two days. Just remember that there is no petrol station in Rhodes! So the TSAT must draw attention to this, otherwise overseas visitors may easily get stuck. Rhodeans have helped out bikers in the past, but may feel a bit taken for granted if a whole bunch of bikers start arriving without fuel. (Of course, it could open a business opportunity for a quick-witted resident...)
 

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #307 on: August 11, 2020, 05:26:28 pm »
Input please, two options for the Eastern Cape section. Red option quite remote and a longer ride, no options yet for a sleepover. Approaches Hogsback from the South and offers more scenic and technical riding. Blue to the left will run through Queenstown and Cathcart, you will enter Hogsback from the north. Thoughts ?

@Vis Arend if you don't mind looking at these two options ? I know option 1 is the route you submitted, the other one allows for more towns to be visited but not sure what the riding is like. Option 1 is tough to find accommodation and is quite a stretch from Rhodes to Hogsback. Tracks attached below

I did Hogsback to Rhodes in one day, quite easily with heavy loaded bike and pillion (i.e. not going very fast!  ;D). So not a must to take two days. Just remember that there is no petrol station in Rhodes! So the TSAT must draw attention to this, otherwise overseas visitors may easily get stuck. Rhodeans have helped out bikers in the past, but may feel a bit taken for granted if a whole bunch of bikers start arriving without fuel. (Of course, it could open a business opportunity for a quick-witted resident...)
Hi did you follow the same route ? I think the pass south of Hogsback alone is going to keep one busy quite some time. It’s over 700km all dirt. See the planning a ride post, two options there

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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #308 on: August 11, 2020, 05:31:37 pm »
Input please, two options for the Eastern Cape section. Red option quite remote and a longer ride, no options yet for a sleepover. Approaches Hogsback from the South and offers more scenic and technical riding. Blue to the left will run through Queenstown and Cathcart, you will enter Hogsback from the north. Thoughts ?

@Vis Arend if you don't mind looking at these two options ? I know option 1 is the route you submitted, the other one allows for more towns to be visited but not sure what the riding is like. Option 1 is tough to find accommodation and is quite a stretch from Rhodes to Hogsback. Tracks attached below

I did Hogsback to Rhodes in one day, quite easily with heavy loaded bike and pillion (i.e. not going very fast!  ;D). So not a must to take two days. Just remember that there is no petrol station in Rhodes! So the TSAT must draw attention to this, otherwise overseas visitors may easily get stuck. Rhodeans have helped out bikers in the past, but may feel a bit taken for granted if a whole bunch of bikers start arriving without fuel. (Of course, it could open a business opportunity for a quick-witted resident...)

Petrol is available in Rhodes.

Not a formal fuel station, but a local resident has a sideline business supplying fuel at a small mark-up. he seems to keep quite a bit of fuel in stock, so no need to pre-order.



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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #309 on: August 11, 2020, 05:33:07 pm »
Input please, two options for the Eastern Cape section. Red option quite remote and a longer ride, no options yet for a sleepover. Approaches Hogsback from the South and offers more scenic and technical riding. Blue to the left will run through Queenstown and Cathcart, you will enter Hogsback from the north. Thoughts ?

@Vis Arend if you don't mind looking at these two options ? I know option 1 is the route you submitted, the other one allows for more towns to be visited but not sure what the riding is like. Option 1 is tough to find accommodation and is quite a stretch from Rhodes to Hogsback. Tracks attached below

I did Hogsback to Rhodes in one day, quite easily with heavy loaded bike and pillion (i.e. not going very fast!  ;D). So not a must to take two days. Just remember that there is no petrol station in Rhodes! So the TSAT must draw attention to this, otherwise overseas visitors may easily get stuck. Rhodeans have helped out bikers in the past, but may feel a bit taken for granted if a whole bunch of bikers start arriving without fuel. (Of course, it could open a business opportunity for a quick-witted resident...)

Petrol is available in Rhodes.

Not a formal fuel station, but a local resident has a sideline business supplying fuel at a small mark-up. he seems to keep quite a bit of fuel in stock, so no need to pre-order.
Good to know  :thumleft:
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #310 on: August 11, 2020, 05:33:41 pm »
Things are coming together nicely
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #312 on: August 12, 2020, 11:17:43 am »
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #313 on: August 12, 2020, 02:09:40 pm »
Input please, two options for the Eastern Cape section. Red option quite remote and a longer ride, no options yet for a sleepover. Approaches Hogsback from the South and offers more scenic and technical riding. Blue to the left will run through Queenstown and Cathcart, you will enter Hogsback from the north. Thoughts ?

@Vis Arend if you don't mind looking at these two options ? I know option 1 is the route you submitted, the other one allows for more towns to be visited but not sure what the riding is like. Option 1 is tough to find accommodation and is quite a stretch from Rhodes to Hogsback. Tracks attached below

I did Hogsback to Rhodes in one day, quite easily with heavy loaded bike and pillion (i.e. not going very fast!  ;D). So not a must to take two days. Just remember that there is no petrol station in Rhodes! So the TSAT must draw attention to this, otherwise overseas visitors may easily get stuck. Rhodeans have helped out bikers in the past, but may feel a bit taken for granted if a whole bunch of bikers start arriving without fuel. (Of course, it could open a business opportunity for a quick-witted resident...)
It's 724km from Rhodes to Hogback on the TSAT, shorter if one cuts out entering Hogsback from the south on the rough pass but I think it needs to be part of the adventure. Need a place in between to camp / stay over.
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #314 on: August 12, 2020, 02:13:51 pm »
Anyone know the small town of Ida Eastern Cape ? Would be the right place on the route to stay over but cant find any info on it.
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« Reply #315 on: August 12, 2020, 02:47:51 pm »
The other option is Elliot
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #316 on: August 12, 2020, 03:06:36 pm »
1st post is where all the updates will be made to the route
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #317 on: August 12, 2020, 03:34:24 pm »
Ek is nie seker wat die intensie van die pad behoort te wees nie maar daai stukkie van Patensie na Steytler is frikken hairy. Kanse vir omval op klippe met 1000+ Adv bike is 90%  (of ek ry net kak  :xxbah: )
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #318 on: August 12, 2020, 04:18:35 pm »
Ek is nie seker wat die intensie van die pad behoort te wees nie maar daai stukkie van Patensie na Steytler is frikken hairy. Kanse vir omval op klippe met 1000+ Adv bike is 90%  (of ek ry net kak  :xxbah: )
Schalk last time I did that route was many years ago on a DRZ400 and my friends were on 650 singles. It was not tough on those bikes at least but things may also have changed. Make an alternative suggestion and we keep that one as a technical option ? It was quite scenic from what I remember  :thumleft:
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Re: TSAT (Trans South Africa Trail)
« Reply #319 on: August 12, 2020, 08:34:49 pm »
Ek is nie seker wat die intensie van die pad behoort te wees nie maar daai stukkie van Patensie na Steytler is frikken hairy. Kanse vir omval op klippe met 1000+ Adv bike is 90%  (of ek ry net kak  :xxbah: )
Schalk last time I did that route was many years ago on a DRZ400 and my friends were on 650 singles. It was not tough on those bikes at least but things may also have changed. Make an alternative suggestion and we keep that one as a technical option ? It was quite scenic from what I remember  :thumleft:
IT is very scenic yes, did it about 3 months ago in a 4x4 and its ok for a 650 but bigger you will have to know your stuff. Problem for me is not the falling over but if solo and break a leg or something you in big shit. Definitely better fm Patensie to Sville though, going down the rocky side instead of up. 
Alternative is 40km further but very nice fast flat gravel for a big bike.
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