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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2019, 01:49:44 pm »
According to MCSpecs - the HP2 has more power, is lighter and has more suspension travel than the SE.....  :o

BUT Now I need an SE as well!!!!

And an HP2.......

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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2019, 02:23:28 pm »
Limited number available in SA. Goeie ou vraag en aanbod. EKN 101

That, and it looks befok.

The ADV looks like a businessman in n suit.

The SE looks like it's going to jump in through your bedroom window and rape your girlfriend at knifepoint.

Not sure if this is an appropriate joke...
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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2019, 05:08:07 pm »
According to MCSpecs - the HP2 has more power, is lighter and has more suspension travel than the SE.....  :o

BUT Now I need an SE as well!!!!

And an HP2.......

 :biggrin:


Iím a HP2 fanboy, BUT.......

The quality of the travel on the HP2 is nowhere near that of the WP on the KTM.

The KTM may have less HP, but the way the v-twin delivers it is more aggressive than the  boxer motor on the HP2.

Would love to own both, but given a choice between the two Iíll take the HP2 every time
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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2019, 02:23:12 pm »
According to MCSpecs - the HP2 has more power, is lighter and has more suspension travel than the SE.....  :o

BUT Now I need an SE as well!!!!

And an HP2.......

 :biggrin:


Iím a HP2 fanboy, BUT.......

The quality of the travel on the HP2 is nowhere near that of the WP on the KTM.

The KTM may have less HP, but the way the v-twin delivers it is more aggressive than the  boxer motor on the HP2.

Would love to own both, but given a choice between the two Iíll take the HP2 every time

There you go then!

I want a HP2.....
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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2019, 10:21:46 am »
I've had both and I enjoy the Adv S more than the SE I had....my SE had 30l Safari tank though (which makes it front heavy in sand when full)
The rake angle on the SE makes it feel "nervous" at speed compared to the Adv S
The weight difference between the 2 disappears when the SE is fitted with the safari tank.
When taking long tours the Adv beats the SE hands down and I could not get better lap times around our rally track with the SE compared to my Adv S.
It comes down to the hype that's been created around the SE and the hooligan factor.....its a bike you buy with your heart!!!!
If you try to make sense of it then it means you have not properly been bitten by the SE bug  :ricky:


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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2019, 12:37:20 pm »
Limited number available in SA. Goeie ou vraag en aanbod. EKN 101

That, and it looks befok.

The ADV looks like a businessman in n suit.

The SE looks like it's going to jump in through your bedroom window and rape your girlfriend at knifepoint.

Not sure if this is an appropriate joke...

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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2019, 06:14:59 pm »
I've had both and I enjoy the Adv S more than the SE I had....my SE had 30l Safari tank though (which makes it front heavy in sand when full)
The rake angle on the SE makes it feel "nervous" at speed compared to the Adv S
The weight difference between the 2 disappears when the SE is fitted with the safari tank.
When taking long tours the Adv beats the SE hands down and I could not get better lap times around our rally track with the SE compared to my Adv S.
It comes down to the hype that's been created around the SE and the hooligan factor.....its a bike you buy with your heart!!!!
If you try to make sense of it then it means you have not properly been bitten by the SE bug  :ricky:

Goed opgesom, ken paar manne wat die Adv bo die SE verkies vir juis daardie rede.  Dink die beperkte hoeveelheid van SE's maak die groot verskil in prys.  Mis vandag nog my HP maar verkies egter die SE  ;)

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« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2019, 06:59:22 pm »
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Wat betref die oorspronklike poster se vraag - iemand so kommin en wat in elke 2de comment vir mense 'fok jou' se soek eintlik nie n antwoord, net geselskap.

Ja nee regtig.....
« Last Edit: October 23, 2019, 09:30:13 pm by Noneking »
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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2019, 08:14:04 pm »
I've had both and I enjoy the Adv S more than the SE I had....my SE had 30l Safari tank though (which makes it front heavy in sand when full)
The rake angle on the SE makes it feel "nervous" at speed compared to the Adv S
The weight difference between the 2 disappears when the SE is fitted with the safari tank.
When taking long tours the Adv beats the SE hands down and I could not get better lap times around our rally track with the SE compared to my Adv S.
It comes down to the hype that's been created around the SE and the hooligan factor.....its a bike you buy with your heart!!!!
If you try to make sense of it then it means you have not properly been bitten by the SE bug  :ricky:

Goed opgesom, ken paar manne wat die Adv bo die SE verkies vir juis daardie rede.  Dink die beperkte hoeveelheid van SE's maak die groot verskil in prys.  Mis vandag nog my HP maar verkies egter die SE  ;)

Wat betref die oorspronklike poster se vraag - iemand so kommin en wat in elke 2de comment vir mense 'fok jou' se soek eintlik nie n antwoord, net geselskap.

Ek glo die man bedoel dit so bietjie "tongue-in-cheek".

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Die HP2 en die SE is selfs nog meer van dieselfde ding. :eek7:
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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2019, 09:24:18 pm »
Limited number available in SA. Goeie ou vraag en aanbod. EKN 101

That, and it looks befok.

The ADV looks like a businessman in n suit.

The SE looks like it's going to jump in through your bedroom window and rape your girlfriend at knifepoint.

Not sure if this is an appropriate joke...

 :sip: South African mindset.  :lamer:

Sorry. I might have taken the analogy a bit too far.
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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2019, 12:08:29 pm »
Selfde met die HP2 Enduro
The conventional forks and 21" front wheel make the HP a massive departure from the GS, even before you factor in the weight saving. With a rear spring conversion and HPN tank, mine is still significantly lighter than a GS, and easier to ride in sand and serious stuff: it's more like a big plastic than a light adventure bike. I should imagine the difference between an ADV and an SE is less marked, but still significant.
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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2019, 12:40:50 pm »
The conventional forks and 21" front wheel make the HP a massive departure from the GS

I agree but would go as far in saying that the normal forks take care of the biggest part of that massive, one fi-nal-ly gets some feedback as to what the front is actually doing!

It would have been logical that MBW, after having experienced all these benefits for themselves, would have changed their boxer GS range, but no, they seem not to be too logical....  ???
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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2019, 04:02:39 pm »
I had the privilege to ride both the HP2 and SE in the sand around the Bilene area.

The SE has got massive power but no (little) torque.

The HP has enough of both. Riding the HP off the wet sand and onto the dunes was a breeze - keeping the bike pinned in 3'rd it would climb those high red dunes like it was tarmac.

The SE one had to gear down to 1'st to get through the soft sand above the high water mark, maybe I should have taken a longer run up, but was following my tracks from the HP.

However, I love the look of the SE. When you start it, that engine (with the right pipes) sounds  like it's got a sense of urgency.   :ricky:

I was damn close to buying an SE now, but an HP2 Mega Moto crossed my path.  ;)

My next purchase will probably be a SE unless I can find a nice HP2 Sport   :thumleft:
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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2019, 10:49:22 pm »
I had the privilege to ride both the HP2 and SE in the sand around the Bilene area.

The SE has got massive power but no (little) torque.

The HP has enough of both. Riding the HP off the wet sand and onto the dunes was a breeze - keeping the bike pinned in 3'rd it would climb those high red dunes like it was tarmac.

The SE one had to gear down to 1'st to get through the soft sand above the high water mark, maybe I should have taken a longer run up, but was following my tracks from the HP.

However, I love the look of the SE. When you start it, that engine (with the right pipes) sounds  like it's got a sense of urgency.   :ricky:

I was damn close to buying an SE now, but an HP2 Mega Moto crossed my path.  ;)

My next purchase will probably be a SE unless I can find a nice HP2 Sport   :thumleft:

Were there any mods done to the air box of the se. mods like the Rottweiler conversion ruins the low down torque but opens it up for speed
 

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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2019, 09:19:53 am »
I had the privilege to ride both the HP2 and SE in the sand around the Bilene area.

The SE has got massive power but no (little) torque.

The HP has enough of both. Riding the HP off the wet sand and onto the dunes was a breeze - keeping the bike pinned in 3'rd it would climb those high red dunes like it was tarmac.

The SE one had to gear down to 1'st to get through the soft sand above the high water mark, maybe I should have taken a longer run up, but was following my tracks from the HP.

However, I love the look of the SE. When you start it, that engine (with the right pipes) sounds  like it's got a sense of urgency.   :ricky:

I was damn close to buying an SE now, but an HP2 Mega Moto crossed my path.  ;)

My next purchase will probably be a SE unless I can find a nice HP2 Sport   :thumleft:

Were there any mods done to the air box of the se. mods like the Rottweiler conversion ruins the low down torque but opens it up for speed

16 x 45 sprocket change should sort any low down torque issues


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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2019, 04:18:49 pm »
Were there any mods done to the air box of the se. mods like the Rottweiler conversion ruins the low down torque but opens it up for speed

Sorry, can't say, not my bike. The owner just asked me to take it up the dunes as he couldn't get off the beach. ;)
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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2019, 08:30:16 pm »
Were there any mods done to the air box of the se. mods like the Rottweiler conversion ruins the low down torque but opens it up for speed

Sorry, can't say, not my bike. The owner just asked me to take it up the dunes as he couldn't get off the beach. ;)

@Leo  Jy praat lekker tjol, daai SE's hardloop daardie duin soos niks uit.  My gf het dit eerste keer gedoen en hom met gemak uitgery  (bewys aangeheg).  Nie een SE het gesukkel, inteendeel, hulle het die kak uit al die ander bikes gery  :imaposer:

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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2019, 09:03:22 pm »
Janee. n 950 vreet sandduine vir brekfis.

Die bike en engine is ontwerp om die Dakar te wen. Duine is sy kos.
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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2019, 09:07:20 pm »
Vra maar vir Gideon Joubert, hy met vroulief agterop, ry duin 7 soos niks uit op daai SE.
 

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Re: KTM 950SE
« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2019, 06:32:00 am »
@Hondsekierie - dan moet die ryer die swak skakel wees  :thumleft:
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