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Offline Omninorm

New Vstrom
« on: November 04, 2019, 10:42:49 am »
Is that FINALLY a 21" front I see?  This might be my next bike. I've been looking for a reliable, semi off-road tourer type bike that doesn't cost too much that can do 2 up in relative comfort.

Should see it tomorrow....





https://www.globalsuzuki.com/eicma2019/




« Last Edit: November 04, 2019, 10:47:10 am by Omninorm »
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2019, 10:51:17 am »
Is that FINALLY a 21" front I see?  This might be my next bike. I've been looking for a reliable, semi off-road tourer type bike that doesn't cost too much that can do 2 up in relative comfort

You describe the 790 Adventure.
If you drop your 'semi' then you describe the 790 Adventure R.
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Re: New Vstrom
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2019, 12:00:23 pm »
Is that FINALLY a 21" front I see?  This might be my next bike. I've been looking for a reliable, semi off-road tourer type bike that doesn't cost too much that can do 2 up in relative comfort

You describe the 790 Adventure.
If you drop your 'semi' then you describe the 790 Adventure R.
 ;)

I will never buy the Adventure cannot stand the look of it.  it would need to be the R for some reason it looks a LOT better.
But they are expensive I think compared to what the Strom might be.

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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2019, 12:06:23 pm »
I will never buy the Adventure cannot stand the look of it.  it would need to be the R for some reason it looks a LOT better.

I get confused when people say that. Exactly the same bike and you get the R screen with the regular bike.

There is very little hype around EICMA this year. I suppose the exciting models where all shown last year. Let's hope there are a few surprises
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2019, 12:07:52 pm »
Not so sure if the Vstrom will look any better just buy a T7 already and get a comfy seat
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2019, 12:58:46 pm »
I will never buy the Adventure cannot stand the look of it.  it would need to be the R for some reason it looks a LOT better.

I get confused when people say that. Exactly the same bike and you get the R screen with the regular bike.


Brake Magazine doesn't seem to agree

http://www.brake-magazine.com/review-ktm-790-adventure/
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2019, 01:02:40 pm »
I will never buy the Adventure cannot stand the look of it.  it would need to be the R for some reason it looks a LOT better.

I get confused when people say that. Exactly the same bike and you get the R screen with the regular bike.


Brake Magazine doesn't seem to agree

http://www.brake-magazine.com/review-ktm-790-adventure/

I was replying to a comment on looks. Of course it's different to ride because of suspension.
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2019, 01:04:12 pm »
I will never buy the Adventure cannot stand the look of it.  it would need to be the R for some reason it looks a LOT better.

I get confused when people say that. Exactly the same bike and you get the R screen with the regular bike.


Brake Magazine doesn't seem to agree

http://www.brake-magazine.com/review-ktm-790-adventure/

I was replying to a comment on looks. Of course it's different to ride because of suspension.

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I concur  :thumleft:
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2019, 01:19:05 pm »
I will never buy the Adventure cannot stand the look of it.  it would need to be the R for some reason it looks a LOT better.

I get confused when people say that. Exactly the same bike and you get the R screen with the regular bike.

There is very little hype around EICMA this year. I suppose the exciting models where all shown last year. Let's hope there are a few surprises

That awful screen, the non fender...the low slung suspenders make it look seriously odd.
I dunno why...and i get your argument but it really doesn't look the same to me.

Yeah T7 with new seat is on the very short list when this happens. I was actually looking at the 700 Tracer as well. not needing to do a lot of off-road but there are gravel roads I'd like to do ideally so would lean towards something that could do gravel ideally. but must be able to do long rides in relative comfort, otherwise i'd just get a 690 again :D  Kr 132 000 for a 700 Tenere here out the box.  new Vstrom 650 is Kr. 105 000 KTM 790 R is Kr. 180 000.

This could be a new 1200 Vstrom or perhaps something else?  The engine looks a bit different...a new 1000? So maybe will not be competitive in price. Anyway will see...I'm happy to see this from Suzuki... A little DR BIG reminiscent.
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2019, 01:48:22 pm »
That seems costly when compared to SA Omnihorn?
Taxed to the hilt no doubt  :-\
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2019, 01:58:21 pm »
That seems costly when compared to SA Omnihorn?
Taxed to the hilt no doubt  :-\

Yup indeed!
It's exponential on the CC's - 1200GS is like R360 000 here.
But your 650's and under is slightly cheaper. What is nice is that your KTM 350's and so on is road legal here.
Hence me lookign at lower CC's so if this Suziki is a 1000 or 1200 it will be prohibitively expensive I think. Although there are really good deals second hand.
Ag I'll see...still at the very least 15 or so months off I think to get something like this.

Check this mockup of what may be rumoured to be revealed



https://riders.drivemag.com/news/suzuki-dr-big-are-you-ready-for-the-great-comeback

Still labelled a Vstrom from the video, so i think the mag was reaching a bit.

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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2019, 02:17:17 pm »
Check this mockup of what may be rumoured to be revealed



Unfortunately Oberdan Bezzi is a photoshop artist rather than a motorcycle designer......
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2019, 02:28:22 pm »
Check this mockup of what may be rumoured to be revealed



Unfortunately Oberdan Bezzi is a photoshop artist rather than a motorcycle designer......
https://www.behance.net/OBIBOI
Some of his creations are mouth watering.......

yeah i wish manufactureres could look and do at least where it makes sense what he designs.

I reckon the new Vstrom is just a new 1000cc with a 19" front. I mean it's good but nothing "groundbreakingly new" from Suzuki i think.
They just play it safe.
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2019, 03:54:44 pm »
What is the obsession with a 21 inch wheel for what is always going to be primarily a tar or gravel tourer  ???
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2019, 04:17:36 pm »
What is the obsession with a 21 inch wheel for what is always going to be primarily a tar or gravel tourer  ???

Well, it gives you more options.
But i agree that a 19" is not bad with this bike, but then one could say why does the Tenere 700 not just have a 19"  I guess.
It's the 21" and suspension  raises ground clearance and makes obstacles easier to roll over etc etc  which would make it less of a  primarily gravel and tar tourer :D

The engine and weight isn't what  really make it primarily a tar and gravel tourer. There have been heavier bikes with similar engines that is very capable.
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2019, 10:25:40 am »
I see the 390 adventure is also launching today ?
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2019, 12:27:15 pm »
Suzuki has unveiled two new V-Strom models today, with a new V-Strom 1050XT and V-Strom 1050 announced at Eicma in Milan, Italy. Developed to the design concept of ‘The Master of Adventure’, main features include:

Design heavily influenced by Suzuki’s iconic DR-Z desert racer and DR Big, with a new vertically stacked rectangular LED headlight and distinctive ‘beak’.
New Euro5 version of the flexible and characterful 90° V-Twin engine producing 107.4PS (79kW), a 7% increase over the previous generation.
New ride-by-wire throttle with three selectable engine modes and a three-mode traction control system.
The flagship V-Strom 1050XT gets new Suzuki Intelligent Ride System (SIRS) which features a full suite of electronics including an inertial measurement unit (IMU), lean-angle sensitive ABS with two settings, linked brakes that can detect and adapt to load and inclines, plus hill hold control and cruise control.
The new V-Strom 1050XT and V-Strom 1050 were designed and built to allow any rider to maximise their own adventure, wherever it may take them.
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2019, 12:29:37 pm »
Tubeless rims copied from a 1985 XL600, even gold as well  :peepwall:
Does not look like 21 inch though
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Re: New Vstrom
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2019, 02:42:26 pm »
If you launch a new "adventure" bike with road tyres fitted.....good luck..... :sip:
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