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Offline WNaude

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Hi Guys,

So I recently restored a 1982 XR500R. My intention was never to take it on the road or across the border.

The bike has no papers neither is it on the eNatis system.

Thinking about it now, I would really like to get it registered, roadworthy and on the road.

Only way to do this is to get it registered as a rebuild.

Good thing is I have all the slips and paperwork of all the parts and work done, so that ticks a big box.

Question is.....Has anyone done this before? What is the process? Is it worth it?

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« Last Edit: October 23, 2020, 02:05:47 pm by WNaude »
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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2019, 08:55:05 am »
this might help?
https://www.scootdr.com/licensing-registration-procedure/

Thanks DJ,
Very helpful information.

From what I have gathered:
   1.Check existing frame and engine number - done this, no records
   2. Get affidavit stating it is not registered, neither on the eNatis system
   3. Include all documentation, paperwork and receipts that you have build it up from parts
   4. Get data dot and police clearance
   5. Apply for registration as a rebuild

Not sure about the Weigh Bridge thing...

And I'm pretty sure I'm missing about 10 additional steps in between
« Last Edit: November 13, 2019, 08:56:19 am by WNaude »
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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2019, 09:03:19 am »
Sure it will be similar to registering a trailer as built up (I did this many years ago).

I think you'd have to go to the traffic dept and get RPC (request for police clearance) and go to your local police clearance yard.
They will then verify that the numbers on the bike are not from another bike / duplicate / stolen etc. (as you mention they are not)

With that you then go back to the traffic department and get them to add it to the system. 
Once on the system you should be able to go for a road worthy certificate, and then back to the traffic dept for your disc. 

I don't think you will need a weigh bridge certificate (I did for my built up trailer), but if you do, most scrap yards will give you a certificate showing the weight.

I don't think you will need a RPI (request for police issue) as the bike has chassis / engine numbers already unlike a built up trailer.
 
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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2019, 09:07:03 am »
All as above - it's just a schlep - but it can be done! Just be aware that the paperwork to & from the eNatis takes about 8-10 weeks, so get on it sooner rather than later!!

Be patient, smile a lot, take water and something to read, earphones for your music on your phone and be prepared to wait it out....

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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2019, 09:23:20 am »
At the end of the day if I manage to get it done, it will definitely be worth it.

So let the process start.

Will keep you updated as I progress.
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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2019, 09:32:57 am »
At the end of the day if I manage to get it done, it will definitely be worth it.

So let the process start.

Will keep you updated as I progress.

Please do - it's useful info - and get your head into the game, it's a schlep and they will bugger you around, but the right attitude and a smile will get you a long way...

Take snacks and water....
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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2019, 09:52:25 am »
Ek loer ook hier, sterkte Werner en hou ons asb op datum van jou vordering.
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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2019, 09:57:54 am »
At the end of the day if I manage to get it done, it will definitely be worth it.

So let the process start.

Will keep you updated as I progress.

Please do - it's useful info - and get your head into the game, it's a schlep and they will bugger you around, but the right attitude and a smile will get you a long way...

Take snacks and water....

A bucket of KFC + 2 litre Coke will probably get you further and faster...!  :sip:
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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2019, 09:58:04 am »
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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2019, 10:06:51 am »
when you are done please post each and every step you had to take here

good information for the next guys resto project  :thumleft:
 

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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2019, 10:50:07 am »
Will make a list of every step, duration and cost, including the KFC and Coke....
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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2019, 10:54:41 am »
Not sure if current foreign overlander bikes get put on enatis but there are quite a few around pre enatis, what would prevent one presenting that or even a stolen bike from eg. Namibia  as a rebuild ?

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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2019, 11:14:37 am »
Took me a year and 7 days to introduce a R50/2 on eNatis. Iím in Upington, the forms were sent to Kimberley (a number of times). I might do it again, but only for a high value bike.

Ps: bike did not have to get a weight certificate, but my old Land Rover did.
 

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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2019, 11:33:45 am »
Not sure if current foreign overlander bikes get put on enatis but there are quite a few around pre enatis, what would prevent one presenting that or even a stolen bike from eg. Namibia  as a rebuild ?
Guess you would need an affidavit from the guy who rode it into SA saying that you bought it from him ?
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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2019, 03:56:14 pm »
Watching this one ... as Iíll probably have to do it with my current project
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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this - I HAVE (DONE)
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2020, 02:02:40 pm »
Afternoon Guys,

So after much debate I finally convinced myself to tackle the process of registering the 500.

I was convinced it would be a long and stretchy process, but to my surprise not, not at all.....

It took me just 4 days from start to finish and now, in 2 weeks I will receive the registration papers.

I will give you a quick summary with the whole process step by step to follow.

Day1: Drove to Watloo in Silverton and went directly to the vehicle SAPS clearance and registration offices. This is a separate building from where you do renewals and so forth where the queue stretches around the corner .At this building there is basically no queue. Almost too good to be true. Found I man working there, extremely helpful, explained the whole process from top to bottom and provided me with all the documentation. Took me 20 minutes and off I go.

Day2: Gathered all the slips and receipts from all the parts and labour and what not, ID's, proof of residence, proof of purchase from previous owner, affidavits, photo's, the whole shebang. Made copies and went to the police station to get everything certified. Took me 10 minutes and off I go.

Day3: Loaded the bike on the trailer and back to Watloo for police clearance. Take note that this happens at Watloo and no need to go back to the police station, ever again. Here they check that the VIN and ENGINE numbers on the documentation is indeed that on the bike. Back to the office and the lady phoned to check whether the bike is on the system. BOOM!!!! Can you believe it, the bike was in the archives and has a register number. Ok so what does this mean? Process remains the same, only difference is that it will now be registered as a Code 2 (used) and not Code 3 (rebuild). Took me 90 minutes and off I go.

Day 4: Back to Watloo with all the paperwork. Check, check and check. 2 sets of everything, about 40 pages of paperwork. Stamped, stapled and thank you. Provided me with a slip and said come back in 10 days to collect the registration papers. Took me 60 minutes and off I go.

This almost sounds too good to be true but it was that simple. And the people at Watloo went beyond to help and assist me.

So in 10 days (5 November) I will go and collect and report back.

My advice: If anyone wants to go through the process of registering a bike as a rebuild, I will highly recommend it and will gladly share all the paperwork and provide an example. I made a 3rd set of copies of everything to keep with me. I will share this if need be.

Chers
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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this (I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY)
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2020, 02:11:51 pm »
Ek is bly jy het reggekom met die registrasie  :thumleft:

Is jou 500 padwaardig? Het flikker ligte, spiŽels, toeter ens?
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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this (I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY)
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2020, 02:26:28 pm »
Ek is bly jy het reggekom met die registrasie  :thumleft:

Is jou 500 padwaardig? Het flikker ligte, spiŽels, toeter ens?

Om net eers te registreer was vir my prioriteit aangesien dit veronderstel was om die moeilikste te gewees het. Nou dat dit gedoen is is ek baie tempted om 'n roadworthy kit op te sit en hom padwaardig te maak...

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Re: Registering a bike as a rebuild - Anyone done this (I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY)
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2020, 02:30:22 pm »
Jy het klaar soveel moeite gedoen, jy kan dit  maar net sowel op die pad ook sit.

Mens kry 'n roadworthy kit wat met penlight batterye werk, ek sal bietjie gaan soek en kyk of ek die link kan kry
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