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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #860 on: August 27, 2020, 08:15:06 am »
Except for KTM though?  We all know they are ready to race....
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #861 on: August 27, 2020, 08:19:26 am »
Except for KTM though?  We all know they are ready to race....
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #862 on: August 27, 2020, 09:39:15 am »
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:
 
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #863 on: August 27, 2020, 11:10:20 am »
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team. 
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #864 on: August 27, 2020, 11:12:44 am »
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Clever? You mean confused  :imaposer: :imaposer:
Thanks, it makes sense now  :thumleft:
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #865 on: August 27, 2020, 11:18:34 am »
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Clever? You mean confused  :imaposer: :imaposer:
Thanks, it makes sense now  :thumleft:

Dorna and their rules would have confused Albert Einstein, so we are all in good company.   :lol8:
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #866 on: August 27, 2020, 12:38:37 pm »
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Everyone thought Tech 3 were nuts to go with KTM  :pot:
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #867 on: August 27, 2020, 01:07:20 pm »
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Everyone thought Tech 3 were nuts to go with KTM  :pot:

Ha ha they were nuts, but got lucky.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #868 on: August 27, 2020, 01:15:47 pm »
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Everyone thought Tech 3 were nuts to go with KTM  :pot:

Ha ha they were nuts, but got lucky.

I am very impressed with the KTM’s , all 4 in the top 10 points to a user friendly package ,  the Honda is very much a Marquez bike that is unrideable for anyone else , the Yamaha’s seem to be having their fair share of problems , Suzuki are good , Aprilia have their moments
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #869 on: August 27, 2020, 01:18:22 pm »
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Everyone thought Tech 3 were nuts to go with KTM  :pot:

Ha ha they were nuts, but got lucky.

Remember Gary Player's saying " the more I practice, the luckier I get " - There are some very talented up and coming youngsters looking to get into the big league, won't demand gazillion dollar salaries and will put everything into opportunities on whatever bike in whichever team  ;) 
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #870 on: August 27, 2020, 01:37:23 pm »
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Everyone thought Tech 3 were nuts to go with KTM  :pot:

Ha ha they were nuts, but got lucky.

Remember Gary Player's saying " the more I practice, the luckier I get " - There are some very talented up and coming youngsters looking to get into the big league, won't demand gazillion dollar salaries and will put everything into opportunities on whatever bike in whichever team  ;)

KTM is looking after their " youngsters"  well as well.  BB and MO are the first ever riders to go from Rookies Cup, via Moto 3 and Moto 2 to MotoGP in the same team. 

The rider with the biggest smile on his face:  Petrux looking forward to his KTM Tech3 ride next year.
The rider now crying in his manager's beer:  Jorge Martin.  Had a signed, sealed and delivered contract with KTM Tech3 for next year.  There was a small " out"  clause.  He was offered a contract by Pramac Ducati and he used the "out" to cancel with KTM and sign with Pramac.  Silly boy!   
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #871 on: August 27, 2020, 01:52:00 pm »
1st time in the 38 hrs Honda have been In MotoGP that they have gone 5 races with no podium. That a bloody impressive record !!!!

Honda, besides being a highly competitive team, has always had the means to field more bikes than the opposition, making chances for a podium better.

Under the current rules, they can only field four.  2 x factory and 2 x satellite.  It sort of level the playing field.

Don't Ducati have 6 bikes in the field? Factory team, Pramac and Avintia? Although Tito Rabat can't really be counted  :lol8:

Bloody hell!  Too many clever okes here!   :lol8:

You are correct.  They do, but until Ducati pulled the trick with Zarco, Avintia was (still is sort off) a completely independent team who bought Ducatis and raced independently from the manufacturer.  They ,may as well have bought Hondas.  My wild guess is that Avintia will, in the near future, become the Suzuki (or if nuts, the Aprilia) satellite team.

Everyone thought Tech 3 were nuts to go with KTM  :pot:

Ha ha they were nuts, but got lucky.

Remember Gary Player's saying " the more I practice, the luckier I get " - There are some very talented up and coming youngsters looking to get into the big league, won't demand gazillion dollar salaries and will put everything into opportunities on whatever bike in whichever team  ;)

KTM is looking after their " youngsters"  well as well.  BB and MO are the first ever riders to go from Rookies Cup, via Moto 3 and Moto 2 to MotoGP in the same team. 

The rider with the biggest smile on his face:  Petrux looking forward to his KTM Tech3 ride next year.
The rider now crying in his manager's beer:  Jorge Martin.  Had a signed, sealed and delivered contract with KTM Tech3 for next year.  There a small " out"  clause.  He was offered a contract by Pramac Ducati and het used the "out" to cancel with KTM and sign with Pramac.  Silly boy!   

Sure  :thumleft: Danilo would probably be better placed at Tech 3. What's the view on Bagnaia for 2021 -  in the A team with Miller ?
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #872 on: August 27, 2020, 03:50:31 pm »
Ducati is not saying yet, but it seems the riders on their payroll will be:

Jack Miller:  Confirmed Ducati Factory
Jorge Lorenzo:  Ducati Factory (just a rumour, but Ducati boss did not deny and indicated there are possibly discussions)
Pecco Bagnaia: Ducati Factory if not Lorenzo or Zarco, otherwise continue at Pramac.
Jorge Martin:  Confirmed Pramac Ducati
Zarco:  Avintia, maybe Pramac with one of those named for Pramac in Avintia.   

If it was me making the choice I would select:

Ducati Factory:  Jack and Pecco
Pramac:  Jorge and Jorge
Avintia:  Zarco
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #873 on: August 27, 2020, 04:28:04 pm »
I hope Zarco gets the factory Ducati ride, 2 times champ and a real fighter. He really stuffed up his career with the split from KTM, they made huge improvements and he could have been a title contender this year.
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« Reply #874 on: August 27, 2020, 05:52:23 pm »
Any rumors of where Dovi is heading?
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #875 on: August 27, 2020, 08:26:02 pm »
Ducati is not saying yet, but it seems the riders on their payroll will be:

Jack Miller:  Confirmed Ducati Factory
Jorge Lorenzo:  Ducati Factory (just a rumour, but Ducati boss did not deny and indicated there are possibly discussions)
Pecco Bagnaia: Ducati Factory if not Lorenzo or Zarco, otherwise continue at Pramac.
Jorge Martin:  Confirmed Pramac Ducati
Zarco:  Avintia, maybe Pramac with one of those named for Pramac in Avintia.   

If it was me making the choice I would select:

Ducati Factory:  Jack and Pecco
Pramac:  Jorge and Jorge
Avintia:  Zarco

Not a bad call at all......good mix of senior and up and coming youngster racers  ;) 
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #876 on: August 27, 2020, 08:29:04 pm »
I hope Zarco gets the factory Ducati ride, 2 times champ and a real fighter. He really stuffed up his career with the split from KTM, they made huge improvements and he could have been a title contender this year.

I am with you on Zarco - the KTM relationship was not good at all BUT he is a very talented, tough racer  :thumleft:
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #877 on: August 27, 2020, 09:55:55 pm »
Any rumors of where Dovi is heading?

KTM perhaps
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #878 on: August 28, 2020, 08:24:58 am »
Any rumors of where Dovi is heading?

KTM perhaps

KTM Tech3 and then they would have to can Iker Lecuona's contract.  Perhaps send him to Moto2 Ajo to take Jorge Martin's place?

I hope Zarco gets the factory Ducati ride, 2 times champ and a real fighter. He really stuffed up his career with the split from KTM, they made huge improvements and he could have been a title contender this year.

I am with you on Zarco - the KTM relationship was not good at all BUT he is a very talented, tough racer  :thumleft:

The only reason why I left Zarco at Avintia instead of the factory team in my pick is because he is there and seem to have adapted really well.  Ducati can leave him there with full factory support.

I get the idea that the relationship between him and KTM did not split that badly.  Him on the KTM didn't work and the split was pretty amicable.  Most of the noise around it was generated by some media houses.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #879 on: August 28, 2020, 10:28:59 am »
Not saying Zarco left on bad terms, but his career took a dive because of it and now KTM seems to have gotten things right and it is a much more competitive bike. If he had stayed he could have been a title contender this year.

I have a lot of respect for him quitting because he wasn't delivering, but I think it was the bike not him.
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