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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #480 on: July 23, 2020, 10:08:12 am »
Rossiís biggest mistake is not knowing when to quit

Danie, Rossi raced Biaggi, MM raced Rossi. Enough said.  MM is in a class no one else is or was in during the past 30-40 years.

I am a much better racer than Jim Redman, as I will go around Killarney faster than he can, even if he would have lapped me 30 years ago. :imaposer:

MM can only ever claim best racer ever if he raced Rossi is the latter's prime, where MM is now.

GP racing, like everething else, is a revolutionary process. Sheene's lot never leaned off the bike, Roberts had to come along and start that.

Jean-Phillipe "the elbow cometh" Ruggia was one of the first to touch his arm on the tar, now it is almost common-place.

At this point in time, old man Rossi cannot be a match for MM, it would be against the natural laws of racing, but MM is no better than VR was in his prime, relatively speaking.
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #481 on: July 23, 2020, 10:18:00 am »
No better, just faster..

Riding with Biaggis scalp is nothing.  Rossi raced in a docile era.  MM is racing Rossi. If hes to old to compete he should retire.
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #482 on: July 23, 2020, 10:35:22 am »
No better, just faster..

Riding with Biaggis scalp is nothing.  Rossi raced in a docile era.  MM is racing Rossi. If hes to old to compete he should retire.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #483 on: July 23, 2020, 10:43:20 am »
IMO Rossi is going to be like Pedrosa.. he is going to hang around until its clearly evident that he cannot compete anymore.

I would love to see Rossi develop the VR46 race team and compete as a team manager, no doubt he has the talent and experience.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #484 on: July 23, 2020, 10:45:04 am »
IMO Rossi is going to be like Pedrosa.. he is going to hang around until its clearly evident that he cannot compete anymore.

I would love to see Rossi develop the VR46 race team and compete as a team manager, no doubt he has the talent and experience.
The problem is DORNA, they need him for the crowds/ sponsor's and just that bit of niggle to keep the spice going in racing, so it doesn't become a somber affair like F1.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #485 on: July 23, 2020, 10:46:46 am »
I would love to see Rossi develop the VR46 race team and compete as a team manager, no doubt he has the talent and experience.

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #486 on: July 23, 2020, 10:51:16 am »
Rossi is onder geen druk om podiums te vat nie,  en ek dink nie veel mense verwag dit van hom nie.
Hoekom sal Yamaha hom teken vir nog `n jaar of 2 as hy relatief min in die top 10 kom draai? Gaan dinge skielik oormore verander?
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #487 on: July 23, 2020, 11:02:18 am »
Ducati ruined Rossi.

Weird that some riders gel with a Ducatti and others don't at all.
Stoner gelled for sure, pity he stopped too soon. :(

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #488 on: July 23, 2020, 11:03:15 am »
So if Marques comes back very soon he will be riding without his humerus having healed completely. It takes many weeks for bone to regrow. Unless you're on some wonder drug or something. Anyway, so he'll be depending on the plates and pins to hold things together and in place. All good and well, you get full functionality.

But another fall in his return race is going to be way more catastrophic. Well, another one that involves his humerus, at least.

Darryn said it so well in his interview with Ron and Donovan on the Ridefast show.  "There is a fine line between being a hero and an idiot".  Marques would not be a hero if he raced this weekend.  The risk over reward ratio is just not right.

I would love to see Rossi develop the VR46 race team and compete as a team manager, no doubt he has the talent and experience.


I agree and my guess is:

- 1 year riding for Petronas.
- The Petronas team them becomes Petronas VR46 team.
- Rossi retired, but more involved in running the 3 VR46 teams.

Something I noticed this past weekend.  There is a small sponsor name on both the Sky VR46 Moto3 and Sky VR46 Moto2 bikes.  They are WithU Energy.  That same sponsor name is on the Petronas MotoGP bike. 
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #489 on: July 23, 2020, 11:09:33 am »
Rossi is onder geen druk om podiums te vat nie,  en ek dink nie veel mense verwag dit van hom nie.
Hoekom sal Yamaha hom teken vir nog `n jaar of 2 as hy relatief min in die top 10 kom draai? Gaan dinge skielik oormore verander?
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It was the same with Pedrosa and other riders.. Pedrosa was under no pressure to get podiums until MM came along and took the world championship in his rookie season, all of a sudden questions started getting asked.. We are going to see the same pressure now with a 21 year old French rider popping up and killing a factory team by seconds.. the fan base of factory teams is only going to take that hammering for so long before the pressure gets real.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #490 on: July 23, 2020, 03:13:56 pm »
So Marquez cleared to race this weekend again. Wow!
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #491 on: July 23, 2020, 03:17:48 pm »
Yes, alien much.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #492 on: July 23, 2020, 03:20:04 pm »
So Marquez cleared to race this weekend again. Wow!

I have no words.. his surgeon in Barcelona must be one of the best in the business.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #493 on: July 23, 2020, 03:23:50 pm »
So Marquez cleared to race this weekend again. Wow!

I have no words.. his surgeon in Barcelona must be one of the best in the business.

Can't mend the ego that demands the racetrack.  :o
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #494 on: July 23, 2020, 04:47:49 pm »
So Marquez cleared to race this weekend again. Wow!

I have no words.. his surgeon in Barcelona must be one of the best in the business.

No, his injuries are simply far less serious than originally speculated.
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #495 on: July 23, 2020, 04:49:25 pm »
No better, just faster..

Riding with Biaggis scalp is nothing.  Rossi raced in a docile era.  MM is racing Rossi. If hes to old to compete he should retire.

Docile era. :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: Stoner did not think so. "I have been racing since the age of four and I have not seen this aggression, bla bla bla.

After Laguna. :imaposer:
 

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« Reply #496 on: July 23, 2020, 04:52:12 pm »
Rossi is onder geen druk om podiums te vat nie,  en ek dink nie veel mense verwag dit van hom nie.
Hoekom sal Yamaha hom teken vir nog `n jaar of 2 as hy relatief min in die top 10 kom draai? Gaan dinge skielik oormore verander?
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It was the same with Pedrosa and other riders.. Pedrosa was under no pressure to get podiums until MM came along and took the world championship in his rookie season, all of a sudden questions started getting asked.. We are going to see the same pressure now with a 21 year old French rider popping up and killing a factory team by seconds.. the fan base of factory teams is only going to take that hammering for so long before the pressure gets real.

Pedrosa, with no MotoGP titles, and Valentino can never be mentioned in even vague comparison.
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #497 on: July 23, 2020, 04:54:28 pm »
So Marquez cleared to race this weekend again. Wow!

I have no words.. his surgeon in Barcelona must be one of the best in the business.

No, his injuries are simply far less serious than originally speculated.
I think so too.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #498 on: July 23, 2020, 04:55:48 pm »
So Marquez cleared to race this weekend again. Wow!

I have no words.. his surgeon in Barcelona must be one of the best in the business.

No, his injuries are simply far less serious than originally speculated.

But they did require "the latest version titanium plate and screws".  These are Alberto Puig's words, not mine.  I hope MM is not going to regret riding as I look forward to some more of his amazing performances.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #499 on: July 23, 2020, 04:57:08 pm »
No better, just faster..

Riding with Biaggis scalp is nothing.  Rossi raced in a docile era.  MM is racing Rossi. If hes to old to compete he should retire.

Docile era. :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: Stoner did not think so. "I have been racing since the age of four and I have not seen this aggression, bla bla bla.

After Laguna. :imaposer:

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