Author Topic: MotoGP 2020 (Read 55128 times)

punisher · « **Reply #500 on:** July 23, 2020, 05:30:03 pm »

seems to me ........ Rossi's biggest mistake is ....... not to have you okes as his advisor or coach

Dux · « **Reply #501 on:** July 23, 2020, 06:52:15 pm »

Those guys are all in another league , even the guy finishing stone last . Amsterdam and myself did a couple of races together , at the one national we were watching the 250GP race and looking at the lap times we were blown away by how much faster they were than any of us could even dream of going . And international racing is at a much higher level .
Rossi will always be one of the best , championships in 125 , 250 and 500 as well as Moto GP , MM as good as he is can never add a 500 trophy to his collection . I personally do not think MM would have done so well in that class , 130kg , 200+ hp and NO rider aids like the modern bikes have , smoothness and finesse was required and they did not take prisoners at all .

2StrokeDan · « **Reply #502 on:** July 23, 2020, 08:09:51 pm »

Quote from: Amsterdam on July 23, 2020, 04:57:08 pm

Quote from: 2StrokeDan on July 23, 2020, 04:49:25 pm
Quote from: KiLRoy on July 23, 2020, 10:18:00 am
No better, just faster..

Riding with Biaggis scalp is nothing. Rossi raced in a docile era. MM is racing Rossi. If hes to old to compete he should retire.

Docile era. Stoner did not think so. "I have been racing since the age of four and I have not seen this aggression, bla bla bla.

After Laguna.

Sure, sure. I hope that when he is 4 his riding buddies did not pull a Rossi Lagauna type move. That is not right for the playground.

2StrokeDan · « **Reply #503 on:** July 23, 2020, 08:11:47 pm »

Quote from: Dux on July 23, 2020, 06:52:15 pm

Those guys are all in another league , even the guy finishing stone last . Amsterdam and myself did a couple of races together , at the one national we were watching the 250GP race and looking at the lap times we were blown away by how much faster they were than any of us could even dream of going . And international racing is at a much higher level .
Rossi will always be one of the best , championships in 125 , 250 and 500 as well as Moto GP , MM as good as he is can never add a 500 trophy to his collection . I personally do not think MM would have done so well in that class , 130kg , 200+ hp and NO rider aids like the modern bikes have , smoothness and finesse was required and they did not take prisoners at all .

500cc strokers.......Kilroy's "docile" class.

In fact, if MM cannot even avoid a highside on a 1000cc 4stroke, what chance would he have had on a NSR?? Fokkol.

Dux · « **Reply #504 on:** July 23, 2020, 08:19:48 pm »

Too true , a 4 stroke1000 with traction control is not close to the fear factor of an NSR500 , even the Big Bang model . I look at the Moto GP riders and they just pin the throttle , do that on a 500 and it will highside the rider into a lunar orbit .

billy-joe · « **Reply #505 on:** July 23, 2020, 09:38:37 pm »

I'd love to see these guys' lap times on an old school 2 stroke. for me, that was what defined a good rider, being able to tame the beast and be fast.

good luck to MM this weekend. I have no doubt that he can pitch up and get a podium at least. hope our boy BB learned from last weekend and gets a top 5!

TheBear · « **Reply #506 on:** July 24, 2020, 09:31:27 am »

Quote from: 2StrokeDan on July 23, 2020, 04:47:49 pm

Quote from: Fuzzy Muzzy on July 23, 2020, 03:20:04 pm
Quote from: OomD on July 23, 2020, 03:13:56 pm
So Marquez cleared to race this weekend again. Wow!

I have no words.. his surgeon in Barcelona must be one of the best in the business.

No, his injuries are simply far less serious than originally speculated.

I have seen a x-ray posted on a reputable MotoGP site, so possibly not fake. The humerus is broken and the two ends were about 2cm apart. Obviously no nerve damage, but I am not sure he should be allowed to race.

It seems the current plan is that he will sit out FP1 and FP2 today. Then start riding tomorrow. This means he will be in Q1 and need to try for Q2. Knowing him he will go balls to the wall to get into Q2 and then, even faster in Q2 to get a decent grid position. I sincerely hope this does not backfire on him.

BiG DoM · « **Reply #507 on:** July 24, 2020, 10:02:28 am »

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I have seen a x-ray posted on a reputable MotoGP site, so possibly not fake. The humerus is broken and the two ends were about 2cm apart. Obviously no nerve damage, but I am not sure he should be allowed to race.

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That is a generic Googlen search humerus break x-ray (humerous

) that has just become click-bait. It was stated from the outset that the initial x-rays showed a break but not clean seperation. My guess is it was more of a green-stick break hence his present optiistic position and ego with knee down.

TheBear · « **Reply #508 on:** July 24, 2020, 10:14:03 am »

Quote from: BiG DoM on July 24, 2020, 10:02:28 am

I have seen a x-ray posted on a reputable MotoGP site, so possibly not fake. The humerus is broken and the two ends were about 2cm apart. Obviously no nerve damage, but I am not sure he should be allowed to race.

[/quote]

That is a generic Googlen search humerus break x-ray (humerous

) that has just become click-bait. It was stated from the outset that the initial x-rays showed a break but not clean seperation. My guess is it was more of a green-stick break hence his present optiistic position and ego with knee down.

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Ah. Okay, thanks.

TheBear · « **Reply #509 on:** July 24, 2020, 10:41:09 am »

FP1 done.

Maverick
Rossi
Brad
Morbidelli
Pol Espargaro
Oliviera
Jack
Nakagami
A Espargaro
Dovi

MM93 did not participate.

KiLRoy · « **Reply #510 on:** July 24, 2020, 10:41:40 am »

Do you know how scary a galloping horse is at 60km/ h ?

Not said the bikes were docile, i said Rossi’s competition was. Motogp is now more exciting than ever. Most races have bundles of dogfights instead of the occasional one in the old days. Its edge of yourcseat stuff every race. Its great...relish in it instead of reminiscing about kak racing laced with 2stroke fumes.

Btw, i was a Wayne Gardner man...

TheBear · « **Reply #511 on:** July 24, 2020, 10:48:47 am »

Quote from: KiLRoy on July 24, 2020, 10:41:40 am

Do you know how scary a galloping horse is at 60km/ h ?

No idea. A horse at 2km/h scares me. You?

HappyEnding · « **Reply #512 on:** July 24, 2020, 11:02:19 am »

2StrokeDan · « **Reply #513 on:** July 24, 2020, 12:36:49 pm »

Quote from: KiLRoy on July 24, 2020, 10:41:40 am

Do you know how scary a galloping horse is at 60km/ h ?

Not said the bikes were docile, i said Rossi’s competition was. Motogp is now more exciting than ever. Most races have bundles of dogfights instead of the occasional one in the old days. Its edge of yourcseat stuff every race. Its great...relish in it instead of reminiscing about kak racing laced with 2stroke fumes.

Btw, i was a Wayne Gardner man...

Indeed. The Gardner/Schwantz/Roberts Sr/Rainey/Biaggi era, kak racing with 2stroke fumes indeed.

Hardly ever a dogfight on the IOM, kak racing too?

Dux · « **Reply #514 on:** July 24, 2020, 12:48:05 pm »

Quote from: 2StrokeDan on July 24, 2020, 12:36:49 pm

Quote from: KiLRoy on July 24, 2020, 10:41:40 am
Do you know how scary a galloping horse is at 60km/ h ?

Not said the bikes were docile, i said Rossi’s competition was. Motogp is now more exciting than ever. Most races have bundles of dogfights instead of the occasional one in the old days. Its edge of yourcseat stuff every race. Its great...relish in it instead of reminiscing about kak racing laced with 2stroke fumes.

Btw, i was a Wayne Gardner man...

Indeed. The Gardner/Schwantz/Roberts Sr/Rainey/Biaggi era, kak racing with 2stroke fumes indeed.

Hardly ever a dogfight on the IOM, kak racing too?

You forgot about Doohan , Lawson , Abe , Spencer , Sarron and a good selection of others

punisher · « **Reply #515 on:** July 24, 2020, 12:51:00 pm »

hardly ever a dogfight

yeah , but plenty of fisticuffs , shoving and all round hard racing

BiG DoM · « **Reply #516 on:** July 24, 2020, 03:08:29 pm »

Well BB is third fastest in combined FP times

Clockwork Orange · « **Reply #517 on:** July 24, 2020, 04:31:34 pm »

Quote from: TheBear on July 24, 2020, 10:41:09 am

FP1 done.

Maverick
Rossi
Brad
Morbidelli
Pol Espargaro
Oliviera
Jack
Nakagami
A Espargaro
Dovi

MM93 did not participate.

Not looking very rosy for Honda based on these results

BiG DoM · « **Reply #518 on:** July 24, 2020, 08:01:26 pm »

Honda looked better in FP2. Nakagami creamed it to #1. BB seemed to play a clever hand and did not cook it too much in the heat of the afternoon FP2 having got an excellent time in FP1 and even though ending up 11th retained his number 3 combined timeslot. Looking good

FP3 tomorrow morning will be a must watch.

Top 10 combined:
1. Maverick Viñales (Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP) – 1:37.063
2. Valentino Rossi (Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP) + 0.142
3. Brad Binder (Red Bull KTM Factory Racing) + 0.307
4. Franco Morbidelli (Petronas Yamaha SRT) + 0.353
5. Pol Espargaro (Red Bull KTM Factory Racing) + 0.379
6. Miguel Oliveira (Red Bull KTM Tech 3) + 0.429
7. Jack Miller (Pramac Racing) + 0.503
8. Takaaki Nakagami (LCR Honda Idemitsu) + 0.529
9. Aleix Espargaro (Aprilia Racing Team Gresini) + 0.672
10. Andrea Dovizioso (Ducati Team) + 0.676

BiG DoM · « **Reply #519 on:** July 24, 2020, 08:24:59 pm »

Here you go - Brad confirming the FP strategy.

https://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2020/07/24/binder-our-bike-works-well-in-the-heat/335118?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=AND_bindervideo_en&utm_campaign=Traffic&j=288638&sfmc_sub=36808727&l=97_HTML&u=21512188&mid=100010274&jb=835