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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #800 on: August 21, 2020, 02:43:34 pm »
I think Zarco is seen as a bad boy on the track, last year he took Pol out in Silverstone and was also penalized.

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/zarco-penalised-oliveira-crash-silverstone/4519584/
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #801 on: August 21, 2020, 03:37:10 pm »
"Clearly Johann took a funny line, a line that nobody has been going – never, not even once in the weekend – a super tight light into [Turn 2] just to cut ground to overtake me.

I find this weird? If you are in front you can pick any line you want if no one had taken it in the last 100 years you still have to look where the person in front is going or am I wrong?

I tend to agree - I have read and seen a lot of footge of the incident and am still perplexed. Morbs rode into the back of Zarcs - he was not brake testing him, he was in front and got rear ended. Unfortunately we do not know all the backstory politics that is inevitably playing into this drama.  ::)

Yeah Dom, I am not sure what to make of it either. Why is Zarco carrying the can on this one....

Morbi must put on his big girls blouse, shut up and go and race now... This victim thing is no help to anyone

these guys use the whole track to race and turn corners. When someone does something stupid, unusual or not expected, then things go pear-shaped.

Zarco did something unexpected to get ahead. It didn't work.

whether he should be penalised or not is beyond me.

To me. it's all racing - best you know can get hurt or go home.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #802 on: August 21, 2020, 04:27:57 pm »
Strangely enough what he did worked and he was ahead ... the rest is history ...  ::)
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #803 on: August 21, 2020, 10:32:05 pm »
kinda agree on the whole politics bit.  Simon the commentator said that JZ ran a little wider than usual which put FM in his slip stream which made it harder to brake and stop and that's why he went up the back of him.  All seems pretty feasible to me but the stewards seem to think differently. 

If you think of all the dodgy moves MM93 has pulled off without any ramifications then this leaves me slightly perplexed.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #804 on: August 22, 2020, 02:27:14 pm »
kinda agree on the whole politics bit.  Simon the commentator said that JZ ran a little wider than usual which put FM in his slip stream which made it harder to brake and stop and that's why he went up the back of him.  All seems pretty feasible to me but the stewards seem to think differently. 

If you think of all the dodgy moves MM93 has pulled off without any ramifications then this leaves me slightly perplexed.

Indeed. MM punished himself with his last dodgy move.
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #805 on: August 22, 2020, 05:56:54 pm »
While MM was out, there was no "overheating" probelems in the Yammie camp.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #806 on: August 22, 2020, 05:58:07 pm »
kinda agree on the whole politics bit.  Simon the commentator said that JZ ran a little wider than usual which put FM in his slip stream which made it harder to brake and stop and that's why he went up the back of him.  All seems pretty feasible to me but the stewards seem to think differently. 

If you think of all the dodgy moves MM93 has pulled off without any ramifications then this leaves me slightly perplexed.

Indeed. MM punished himself with his last dodgy move.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #807 on: August 22, 2020, 09:33:52 pm »
While MM was out, there was no "overheating" probelems in the Yammie camp.
Coincidence?
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They do not have to ride the Yammies so hard to keep up with MM anymore. The other Hondas are snails.

In fact, I am sorry that Binder could not have had one of the Yammies this year, sweetest handlers out there.

And Yamaha is so special, even with "overheating" engines, they lead the championship. O0
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #808 on: August 22, 2020, 09:41:07 pm »
While MM was out, there was no "overheating" probelems in the Yammie camp.
Coincidence?
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They do not have to ride the Yammies so hard to keep up with MM anymore. The other Hondas are snails.

In fact, I am sorry that Binder could not have had one of the Yammies this year, sweetest handlers out there.

And Yamaha is so special, even with "overheating" engines, they lead the championship. O0

Naka's Honda did not look too snail like ....  ::)
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Re: MotoGP 2020
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #810 on: August 23, 2020, 03:54:02 pm »
 :imaposer:  :imaposer: that takes guts to jump at that speed  :peepwall:
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #811 on: August 23, 2020, 04:59:14 pm »
:imaposer:  :imaposer: that takes guts to jump at that speed  :peepwall:

Yamaha should be using the Japanese Nissen brakes. Now their riders have to bail at speed with their European brakes. :eek7:
 

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« Reply #812 on: August 23, 2020, 05:07:51 pm »
:imaposer:  :imaposer: that takes guts to jump at that speed  :peepwall:

Yamaha should be using the Japanese Nissen brakes. Now their riders have to bail at speed with their European brakes. :eek7:

Euro bikes ruled this one bud  ;) The old man on the one and only Yamaha in top ten  ::) What happened ?
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #813 on: August 23, 2020, 05:25:55 pm »
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #814 on: August 23, 2020, 05:59:41 pm »
:imaposer:  :imaposer: that takes guts to jump at that speed  :peepwall:

Yamaha should be using the Japanese Nissen brakes. Now their riders have to bail at speed with their European brakes. :eek7:

Euro bikes ruled this one bud  ;) The old man on the one and only Yamaha in top ten  ::) What happened ?

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #815 on: August 23, 2020, 08:35:45 pm »
This might be good racing but I can't be the only who thinks this lot are racing for second place.
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #816 on: August 23, 2020, 09:07:11 pm »
This might be good racing but I can't be the only who thinks this lot are racing for second place.

You and Alberto Puig. O0

This season has been filled with the most extraordinary amount of weird happenings and incidents.

And it started with MM's stupid 1st race, breaking his arm.
 

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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #817 on: August 23, 2020, 09:20:06 pm »
I wonder though whoever becomes champion this year (think it will be Doviziozo sp) will feel like it was a bit of a hollow victory since MM was not in it ?
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« Reply #818 on: August 24, 2020, 05:44:41 am »
I wonder though whoever becomes champion this year (think it will be Doviziozo sp) will feel like it was a bit of a hollow victory since MM was not in it ?

To finish first , first you must finish , MM didn’t finish that race which put him out for ages , he did it on his own , so no , not a hollow victory for the champion this year
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Re: MotoGP 2020
« Reply #819 on: August 24, 2020, 05:59:37 am »
Pity BB33 went wide, he was on par for a podium I'd say. And Espagaro and Miller racing each other out of a victory, classic :ricky: Some great action, though.