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Motoz dual sport tyres
« on: January 22, 2020, 03:26:47 pm »
Looking at the Adventure for my 800, my E07 Plus gave me 5000km

Question below in CAPS

Just remember all the Motoz dual sport tyres are called Tractionator:
Tractionator GPS - 50/50
Tractionator Adventure 70/30 offroad- DOES THIS 70/30 MEAN 70% DIRT AND 30% TAR?
Tractionator Desert 80/20 offroad
Tractionator Rallz 90/10 offroad
TS 50- Gave away
RM 125- Not sure where it is.
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XT 550- Sold.
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2020, 03:41:30 pm »
Answer: Yes.











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The ADV is more dirt than tar  (although I find it pretty much as good on tar as a TKC80) and definitely more offroad oriented than the GPS.
 
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2020, 04:14:52 pm »
Answer: Yes.
Correct-Well done , you passed :)










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The ADV is more dirt than tar  (although I find it pretty much as good on tar as a TKC80) and definitely more offroad oriented than the GPS.
TS 50- Gave away
RM 125- Not sure where it is.
IT 200- Sold.
XT 550- Sold.
CR 250-Sold. RMX 250-Sold WR 250-Sold. CFR 450x-Sold. CRF 250x-Sold. XT 660R- Sold KTM 690 Enduro- Alfie Cox Special Edition .Honda XR 650L., WR450, Current bikes, KTM 500 Six Days and BMW 800GS
 

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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2020, 04:28:26 pm »
No, you both have it wrong.
 

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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2020, 06:33:37 pm »
Looking at the Adventure for my 800, my E07 Plus gave me 5000km

Question below in CAPS

Just remember all the Motoz dual sport tyres are called Tractionator:
Tractionator GPS - 50/50
Tractionator Adventure 70/30 offroad- DOES THIS 70/30 MEAN 70% DIRT AND 30% TAR?
Tractionator Desert 80/20 offroad
Tractionator Rallz 90/10 offroad



Roughly yes. Just a rough indication of its preferred application.

The Desert is 85/15 and the Rallz 90/10, so based on that you would think that these tyres are very similar when in actual fact their design, compound and thread pattern differ completely and therefore also their application. Both will do well in most offroad conditions, but the Rallz will shine in wet for instance while the Desert HT will be better in sand when compared to each other.

Iím no fundi, just my understanding
 
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2020, 06:39:03 pm »
Looking at the Adventure for my 800, my E07 Plus gave me 5000km

Question below in CAPS

Just remember all the Motoz dual sport tyres are called Tractionator:
Tractionator GPS - 50/50
Tractionator Adventure 70/30 offroad- DOES THIS 70/30 MEAN 70% DIRT AND 30% TAR?
Tractionator Desert 80/20 offroad
Tractionator Rallz 90/10 offroad

Tractionator Adventure 70/30 offroad- DOES THIS 70/30 MEAN 70% DIRT AND 30% TAR?


Best bloody tyre i have ever used on the rear. Way better than a tkc80.

Milage extremely hard use min 6500km (KTM 1090 and a 800gs)
Friend who commutes 12500km (Africa twin 1000)

Grips extremely well off road.
Great on dry tar
Good on wet tar

A bit pricey but i have 2 rims so when i commute i use a more road based tyre .

For off road use i WILL not use anything else than a motoz tractionator adventure on the rear!!
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2020, 07:07:43 pm »
I've had the Desert rear fitted a couple of times, and its really quite an aggressive earth mover. I think its the best , and most aggressive tire in the market. In my opinion, its more aggressive than the Rallz. (See the pics attached) Still gave me around 5 thousand Kilos with some highway and city commuting thrown in as well.

But, I find the front Tractionator Adventure somewhat rigid and it tends to skid sideways under load. Mostly because of the stiff carcass, me thinks. Pro's, and con's...Tried to adjust tire pressure but the bouncy sideways surprises every now and then only improved slightly.

For the front, There's still nothing to beat TKC80, in my opinion. Yes its soft, but that allows it to grip on the tar stretches, and it performs lovely in sand and rocks.

I'm doing Kaokoland and Damaraland in May with Specialised Adventures. My tire choice: Tractionator Desert at the rear and TKC 80 in front. 
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2020, 07:09:25 pm »
I was also very happy with my tractionator adventure off road . Did 1000km tar and 4500km of gravel and the tyre still has 8mm of tread left . It is definitely a tyre that will get you home .
 
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2020, 09:42:03 pm »
The GPS can be mounted either or direction wise, 50/50 or 60/40 (ok, maybe it's more like 55/45) when running 'backwards' ... this option is authorized by Motoz themselves. I have a GPS rear on the AT ... very happy with it.
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2020, 06:28:33 am »
I got 21000km out of my EO7+ back tyre, Vstrom 650, and 80% was with my wife as pillion.
 

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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2020, 07:00:49 am »
I got 21000km out of my EO7+ back tyre, Vstrom 650, and 80% was with my wife as pillion.

How much do you get on a Motoz?
 

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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2020, 06:01:46 am »
I've had the Desert rear fitted a couple of times, and its really quite an aggressive earth mover. I think its the best , and most aggressive tire in the market. In my opinion, its more aggressive than the Rallz. (See the pics attached) Still gave me around 5 thousand Kilos with some highway and city commuting thrown in as well.

But, I find the front Tractionator Adventure somewhat rigid and it tends to skid sideways under load. Mostly because of the stiff carcass, me thinks. Pro's, and con's...Tried to adjust tire pressure but the bouncy sideways surprises every now and then only improved slightly.

For the front, There's still nothing to beat TKC80, in my opinion. Yes its soft, but that allows it to grip on the tar stretches, and it performs lovely in sand and rocks.

I'm doing Kaokoland and Damaraland in May with Specialised Adventures. My tire choice: Tractionator Desert at the rear and TKC 80 in front.
Thanks for that. I have also heard good things about the Moto Z tyres and was thinking of putting on front and back for my Lesotho trip. Why do you not use the Moto Z for the front?

And also , what is the Moto Z like on fast tar. Lesotho is far and the people I ride with ride fast .

We were going to get new tyres just before the trip in March, but I am very reluctant to put on a tyre that I don't know just before a big trip.

I think I must get new tyres now to test them, and then if I like the Moto Z I can just get new ones for the trip and then use my used ones again after the trip.  A friend got the Rally for his GS 1200 and likes it a lot.

I was thinking front and back though.

Yes I loved the TKC' s front and back on my GS 1200 but have't tried that on the 990.  On the 990 I have had scorpions, but not that happy with them.
 

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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2020, 06:26:15 am »
Ok so I'm going to try a new set of tyres on my 790R and based on feedback on this forum I'm keen to try the Motoz rear and TKC front.

Thinking of going with the Tractionator Adventure? Do I get the 140 or 150?

Regarding the TKC, do I go with the TKC 80?
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2020, 08:08:01 am »
I have the GPS at the rear and TKC80 front...very nice combination for gravel and tar..
But on wet road the GPS is a bitch in town it does not grip pressure is on 2.0bar I still shit my pants in the turns as I had much better results with the EO7.
Have now done 7000km with it and very happy when it's dry...and shit scared when wet
 

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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2020, 08:25:16 am »
I have the GPS at the rear and TKC80 front...very nice combination for gravel and tar..
But on wet road the GPS is a bitch in town it does not grip pressure is on 2.0bar I still shit my pants in the turns as I had much better results with the EO7.
Have now done 7000km with it and very happy when it's dry...and shit scared when wet

Thanks for the feedback. I've heard numerous people complain about the Motoz in the wet on tar, is this only the GS or the Adventure as well? It's currently raining now and the forecast is rain for sometime still.
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2020, 08:41:10 am »
I have the GPS at the rear and TKC80 front...very nice combination for gravel and tar..
But on wet road the GPS is a bitch in town it does not grip pressure is on 2.0bar I still shit my pants in the turns as I had much better results with the EO7.
Have now done 7000km with it and very happy when it's dry...and shit scared when wet

Thanks for the feedback. I've heard numerous people complain about the Motoz in the wet on tar, is this only the GS or the Adventure as well? It's currently raining now and the forecast is rain for sometime still.

Fit the new EO07's and be done.
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2020, 08:42:28 am »
Spoke to Steve , supplier, yesterday only getting Adventure in about 6 weeks time, no stock. Unless a dealer has some stock hidden away!
TS 50- Gave away
RM 125- Not sure where it is.
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2020, 08:45:22 am »
I've got the GPS front and rear. Front is terrible and will be looking to change soon, no grip. Rear is fine, dropping pressure off-road is a must.
 

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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2020, 08:47:15 am »
The GPS can be mounted either or direction wise, 50/50 or 60/40 (ok, maybe it's more like 55/45) when running 'backwards' ... this option is authorized by Motoz themselves. I have a GPS rear on the AT ... very happy with it.

I also have the reverse GPS on the rear.  Also satisfied.

The front....not so much
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2020, 08:53:11 am »
I've had the Desert rear fitted a couple of times, and its really quite an aggressive earth mover. I think its the best , and most aggressive tire in the market. In my opinion, its more aggressive than the Rallz. (See the pics attached) Still gave me around 5 thousand Kilos with some highway and city commuting thrown in as well.

But, I find the front Tractionator Adventure somewhat rigid and it tends to skid sideways under load. Mostly because of the stiff carcass, me thinks. Pro's, and con's...Tried to adjust tire pressure but the bouncy sideways surprises every now and then only improved slightly.

For the front, There's still nothing to beat TKC80, in my opinion. Yes its soft, but that allows it to grip on the tar stretches, and it performs lovely in sand and rocks.

I'm doing Kaokoland and Damaraland in May with Specialised Adventures. My tire choice: Tractionator Desert at the rear and TKC 80 in front.
Thanks for that. I have also heard good things about the Moto Z tyres and was thinking of putting on front and back for my Lesotho trip. Why do you not use the Moto Z for the front?

And also , what is the Moto Z like on fast tar. Lesotho is far and the people I ride with ride fast .

We were going to get new tyres just before the trip in March, but I am very reluctant to put on a tyre that I don't know just before a big trip.

I think I must get new tyres now to test them, and then if I like the Moto Z I can just get new ones for the trip and then use my used ones again after the trip.  A friend got the Rally for his GS 1200 and likes it a lot.

I was thinking front and back though.

Yes I loved the TKC' s front and back on my GS 1200 but have't tried that on the 990.  On the 990 I have had scorpions, but not that happy with them.

The Motoz seem fine to me on Tar.  Did a swazi trip on an almost new one, Fairly brisk there and back and plenty dirt roads and sliding around there and they still look very good.  I'm sure if you abused them properly on the tar they won't last, I had a previous one start getting a bit torn up after screwing around the suburbs on damp tar :peepwall: Dry tar grip, to me is as good as the TKC80, but I tend not to push too hard on knobblies because I'm a big baby.

In the wet I reckon any of the knobblier tyres are going to be scary so yeh.
 
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