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BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« on: January 23, 2020, 10:25:46 am »
Howdy Pilgrims,

Had a pretty savvy customer phone me kakking on me and sending me pictures of said crime scene, because I had just serviced his R1200GS and he said there was no oil in the peepy, looking glass window thingy!
I let him finish his rather long diatribe, then gave him my usual sermon in my best fashionable, even tempered manner (those that know me know that ain't easy  ;))

SImple Rule: On all Boxer motor based bikes (plus others) - check the oil when hot. SO check it when you come back from the ride, not before you start the bike and go on a ride, the glass window will show all sorts of incorrect level variants when cold.
If you want to check before you go, put bike on main stand, start bike, have a polisie coffee, wait long enough for the temp to reach the middle of the gauge or 85* on the LC. Switch bike off, wait two minutes and 33 seconds, check oil.
The oil level should be exactly in the middle (or as close as dammit is to swearing) of the glass window thingy.

If not sure if the bike is hot enough to check the oil - put your paw on the oil cooler. Simple Rule #2 - if you can touch the oil cooler, go have another polisie coffee letting the motor idle more, then check again. If the oil cooler is too hot to touch, switch bike off, wait 2 minutes and 33 seconds and then check the oil level.

Then phone garage/technician and apologize for being a chop, because now you are mellow from the polisie coffee!

Y'all have a funky day y'hear!
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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2020, 10:51:42 am »
Then phone garage/technician and apologize for being a chop, because now you are mellow from the polisie coffee!

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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2020, 11:02:21 am »
Excuse my ignorance as I don't know the 1200's, but does the bike not have a dipstick?
 

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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2020, 11:18:12 am »
Excuse my ignorance as I don't know the 1200's, but does the bike not have a dipstick?
Nope, usually only a dipshit riding it....Oops!

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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2020, 11:19:05 am »
Damn polisie-koffie

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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2020, 11:22:38 am »
 :imaposer: :laughing4:
 

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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2020, 12:22:25 pm »
 :laughing4:  :laughing4:  :laughing4:

I never knew that at the beginning - had to drain some oil out again....

Even on my six-fiddy X-Challenge, same applies - get random readings from the dipstick when cold......

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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2020, 04:34:30 pm »
650 singles are awkward buggers, you've got to know how and when to check properly.

But I've never known boxers to be too finicky. Just don't check it on the sidestand.  :snorting: :snorting:
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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2020, 05:00:29 pm »
So the same on a KLR??
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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2020, 08:53:52 pm »
What is polisie coffee?  :o
 

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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2020, 08:03:37 am »
So the same on a KLR??

It pretty much applies to all bikes with a dipstick/read glass/hose view (like the BMW K series) - you will get a more accurate reading with the oil warm.
Remember you want the oil to do the most effective work when it is hot, so it stands to reason that you want the correct level of hot oil in the sump to do the job,
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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2020, 08:45:57 am »
opposite to what I was taught as all the oil is still up in the engine and not in the sump so you tend to overfill. For both my dry sump bikes you check oil when warm.
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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2020, 11:39:41 am »
What is polisie coffee?  :o

Coffee with the addition of:

Brandy
Whiskey
Cpt Morgan
ObieOneKanobie

You pick your poison, same effect  ;) :thumleft:
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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2020, 11:40:57 am »
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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2020, 12:03:26 pm »
Excuse my ignorance as I don't know the 1200's, but does the bike not have a dipstick?

yeah they all do ,thats the fat thingy on the seat wearing a helmet
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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2020, 12:05:27 pm »
i was told to check after having it on the side stand for a few minutes , then on the centre stand to check
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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2020, 09:24:37 am »
I don't understand why the manufacturers don't give us a method to check the oil cold.  Makes more sense to me
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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2020, 10:34:51 am »
One cannot start up an engine without being able to at least get an indication that oil level is at acceptable level. Before the engine is warm it could be seized. :pot:

Understandably dry sump engines could have oil run-back issues, and a cold check could be very misleading, but all oil-sump engines should be able to be checked cold.
 

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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2020, 10:02:11 am »
One cannot start up an engine without being able to at least get an indication that oil level is at acceptable level. Before the engine is warm it could be seized. :pot:

Understandably dry sump engines could have oil run-back issues, and a cold check could be very misleading, but all oil-sump engines should be able to be checked cold.

Yes but BMW attracts more intellectual people who arrive home sober enough after a long ride to remember to check their oil on return to home base.
If it doesn't need oil after your ride - it won't need it on the next start-up now will it. Unless your lightie has bought torque tools and is really, really pissed with you.
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Re: BLING KING'S TIP OF THE DAY IV
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2020, 12:08:58 pm »
One cannot start up an engine without being able to at least get an indication that oil level is at acceptable level. Before the engine is warm it could be seized. :pot:

Understandably dry sump engines could have oil run-back issues, and a cold check could be very misleading, but all oil-sump engines should be able to be checked cold.

Yes but BMW attracts more intellectual people who arrive home sober enough after a long ride to remember to check their oil on return to home base.
If it doesn't need oil after your ride - it won't need it on the next start-up now will it. Unless your lightie has bought torque tools and is really, really pissed with you.

and that is the correct answer
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