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Offline Carl84

Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« on: February 03, 2020, 03:12:52 pm »
Hi Guys.

My clutch appears to be on its way out. Any suggestions in Gauteng who can change it other than the stealers? It is a 2006 model.



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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2020, 03:20:19 pm »
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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2020, 03:29:31 pm »
Dream Adventure Motorcycles in Pta (Mark)

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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2020, 06:27:43 pm »
Thanks phoned them. Looks like this is going to be expensive :(

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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2020, 08:15:09 pm »
And check the clutch slave cylinder. Its what buggered my 1150's
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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2020, 08:02:43 am »
Thanks phoned them. Looks like this is going to be expensive :(

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Unfortunately, it is a huge job on the air cooled models.  The labour alone will make your bank manager cry.

As already suggested, check the master cylinder and while this sound silly, I have seen this before, check that the tip of your clutch lever is not impaired by the hand guard.
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Offline Carl84

Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2020, 08:12:11 am »
Thanks. Ja I looked under the engine last night and there is a lot of oil around so think some sort of seal is leaking into clutch housing...

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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2020, 08:13:43 am »
Its a big job, they have to split the bike in half to change it, while in there check all the seals, if in doubt replace while its all open
Whats your mileage now?

I did mine last year at around 90000KM , sent it to Northside, for that kind of job I just thought it better to have some pros fiddling in there rather

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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2020, 08:23:03 am »
Mine is on 70 000 km. I spoke to Runner but he said he does not do it but Dream Adventures does so spoke to them & they gave me a estimate. Just also waiting for Bmw Centurion for quote.

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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2020, 08:37:44 am »
You can try Motorrad Tech in Benoni. - 011 425 6632
 

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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2020, 09:29:36 am »
Lots of work, while being stripped, replace the back to back crank seals and depending on your bike`s km, redo the gearbox bearings and bushes.
Done my 1150, but a major undertaking.
The engine breather exits between the back to back crank seals up via breather pipe, if you overfill your engine it can cause oil to leak past the seal onto your clutch or you have a seal that failed.
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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2020, 11:53:02 am »
Try Gravelman - Marcus for another quote
 

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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2020, 12:13:44 pm »
Justin at Motorrad Benoni has quoted a very fair price to me so give him a call
 

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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2020, 12:57:06 pm »
The oil leak is most likely coming from the balancer shaft seal.  The balancer weight will the flick to oil up onto the clutch.  While everything is apart, just get them to replace all 3 seals, motor and gearbox sides.
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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2020, 09:22:23 pm »
Marcus (Gravelman) did my AC GSA.  Very happy with his work.  Big job

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Offline Carl84

Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2020, 09:19:24 am »
Hi All,

Thanks so much for all the replies so far.

The quotes I got range from R8 500 - R16 600. The R16 600 however does include replacing the clutch pressure plate and some sort of housing cover. Taking these two off the R16 500 quote equals about a R8 000 saving thus holding thumbs these items are OK and do not need to be replaced.

You guys that have done this did you need to replace these parts (and looks like they are only available through the agents...)?

 

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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2020, 09:26:43 am »
I have no idea what the "housing cover" is, but I would replace the pressure plate.  It has worked as hard as any other part ofthe clutch and considering the brutal amount of labour required, it makes sense to replace while it is open.
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Offline Carl84

Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2020, 09:33:39 am »
Hi Bear,

That housing cover is no 6 in this photo.

So as I understand it most guys only replace no 5 in the photo and then 4 & 6 may also need to be replaced. 4 & 6 are however around R8k in total so a big extra cost of they are stuffed.
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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2020, 10:13:49 am »
I fully agree with TheBear on the pressure plate. As to the housing cover I fail to understand why it needs replacement, unless they deem it to wear out on the inside, but still. Ask them as to why it needs to be replaced. You can then also arrange with them, once the clutch assembly is out, to pay them a visit and there in the workshop examine all the parts. Then make the final decision. Again as stated, labour is very expensive and once there, replace what is looking like it needs replacing, even if it still has 10 000km odd to go.
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Re: Bmw R1200gs clutch slipping
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2020, 10:30:40 am »
Part 4 and 6 do wear from the inside out, if you measure the thickness of the clutch plate (5) you will
find it is thicker on the outside circumference than the inside. This is why the recommendation is to replace both.
The new plate will take longer to seat of you do not do this. Alternately you can do what I did, and have the
2 surfaces skimmed, and only replace the clutch plate. Yes this will mean less mileage till your
next replacement, but its going to me a minute amount if the skimming is minimal.