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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #80 on: March 29, 2020, 06:50:23 pm »
Are Bajaj's imported in SA?

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Yes, they are, and the Dominar 400 is too!
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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #81 on: March 29, 2020, 06:56:55 pm »
I had a work colleague who had a Bajaj 220i, somewhere around 2011. He travelled to Durban every second weekend on that Bajaj, when I met him it was on 89000km already
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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #82 on: March 29, 2020, 07:46:10 pm »
The Bajaj bikes are not bad, for an Indian bike, but be careful, as Indian clients are far less demanding than us.

They are far more "Africanised' when it comes to breakdowns, poor quality, etc.

One must just be careful nowadays for corporate dishonesty.

BMW tried it with an Indian bike, now KTM seems to be trying it too.

Not the same, but Mercedes met up against more discerning buyers, and had to scrap their blatantly dishonest bakkie.
 

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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #83 on: April 16, 2020, 10:25:45 am »
Just received the report from Denmark: "I did the first installation of the BoosterPlug on the new KTM 390 Adventure. Worked just as good as on the 390 Duke."
« Last Edit: April 16, 2020, 10:34:09 am by Jacobsroodt »
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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #84 on: April 17, 2020, 04:57:17 pm »
First report of a bent rim https://youtu.be/H3O4l0D3Sj4?t=866
 

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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #85 on: April 17, 2020, 05:00:30 pm »
First report of a bent rim https://youtu.be/H3O4l0D3Sj4?t=866

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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #86 on: April 17, 2020, 06:19:38 pm »
First report of a bent rim https://youtu.be/H3O4l0D3Sj4?t=866
Cast rims will never match decent spoked ones.
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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #87 on: July 16, 2020, 11:58:44 pm »
I upgraded from a KLR685 to the 390 Adv at the beginning of June. Just under 3000km completed already.
Yes, it really is an upgrade.
More power, much better acceleration, far more agile, phenomenal stopping power, and it feels like it can sit at 140kph all day with ease. Smaller 14.5 liter tank but better fuel range than the KLRís 23 liter tank. I seem to be averaging around 32 km/l of fairly aggressive riding.
Tubeless tyres. I took it up Hell Se Pas near Vanrhynspas, hitting those huge ledges at speed without any fear of touching the cast rim to stone. The high profile front tyre probably helps there (100/90-19), as does the light mass and the superb front suspension (fully adjustable compression and rebound dampening).
Offroad switchable and cornering sensitive on both traction control as well as ABS.
Bluetooth to phone and to intercom for music, calls, navigation, with all the appropriate info displayed on the very bright TFT screen, and 4-way control switch on the left handlebar, no need to ever take your hand off the handlebar to answer calls, change music, set volume, etc.
12V socket on the dash, plus 2 pairs of spare 12V female spade terminals under the instrument panel for accessories, one pair keyed to the ignition switch, the other always live direct from the battery (Both fused), and the same again under the pillion seat for accessories. I fitted a USB socket to the always live connector under the seat, where there is a neat cavity to store and charge my intercom or phone at a stopover, safely locked away.
Fully adjustable front suspension (compression and rebound damping), with the rear offering pre-load and rebound adjustments.

However, we must come back to the ride...
That is what its all about, not so?

Well, I cannot fault the ride. Well sprung, comfortable, stable, amazingly agile.
Difficult to believe this is a single cylinder. And difficult to believe it is a 400cc class engine.
It is smooth with impressive response from the ride-by-wire throttle.
The power-to-weight ratio is right up there.
This engine loves to rev up eagerly with enough performance to not need gearing down to overtake on the freeway.
I still get surprised when I glance down and often see the speedo reading 140+

If I had to look for negatives, I could name only two:
Stock tyres are road-biased TKC70. I found them surprisingly good on loose gravel, rocky terrain and dirt roads, but when you hit the deep, soft sand, that rear tyre just does not have the push needed to keep the speed up, it spins away, gradually losing speed then ends up digging itself in, even at 1.2 BAR pressure. The front tends to weave a lot more than I expected in the sand, but that is still manageable. The more offroad orientated TKC80 would probably be a much more suitable choice. I hear that the KTM steering geometry favours a TKC80 front in soft sand, so I intend to fit one in front very soon. For the rear, I might got for the superb Anlas Capra X.
The second negative, and this not a biggie, is the less than expected low-end torque. The over-square, short-stroke piston, needs to be kept above 4000 RPM, otherwise the engine feels a bit reluctant. It took a while to adjust, coming from the KLR thumper with its massive low-end grunt, but now I am thoroughly enjoying how playful and eager this engine is once you get it purring in the higher RPM band.
All in all, I am one very happy customer.
 
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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #88 on: July 17, 2020, 03:18:41 am »
A well written objective report.  :thumleft:
 

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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #89 on: July 17, 2020, 08:23:52 am »
I upgraded from a KLR685 to the 390 Adv at the beginning of June. Just under 3000km completed already.
Yes, it really is an upgrade.
More power, much better acceleration, far more agile, phenomenal stopping power, and it feels like it can sit at 140kph all day with ease. Smaller 14.5 liter tank but better fuel range than the KLRís 23 liter tank. I seem to be averaging around 32 km/l of fairly aggressive riding.
Tubeless tyres. I took it up Hell Se Pas near Vanrhynspas, hitting those huge ledges at speed without any fear of touching the cast rim to stone. The high profile front tyre probably helps there (100/90-19), as does the light mass and the superb front suspension (fully adjustable compression and rebound dampening).
Offroad switchable and cornering sensitive on both traction control as well as ABS.
Bluetooth to phone and to intercom for music, calls, navigation, with all the appropriate info displayed on the very bright TFT screen, and 4-way control switch on the left handlebar, no need to ever take your hand off the handlebar to answer calls, change music, set volume, etc.
12V socket on the dash, plus 2 pairs of spare 12V female spade terminals under the instrument panel for accessories, one pair keyed to the ignition switch, the other always live direct from the battery (Both fused), and the same again under the pillion seat for accessories. I fitted a USB socket to the always live connector under the seat, where there is a neat cavity to store and charge my intercom or phone at a stopover, safely locked away.
Fully adjustable front suspension (compression and rebound damping), with the rear offering pre-load and rebound adjustments.

However, we must come back to the ride...
That is what its all about, not so?

Well, I cannot fault the ride. Well sprung, comfortable, stable, amazingly agile.
Difficult to believe this is a single cylinder. And difficult to believe it is a 400cc class engine.
It is smooth with impressive response from the ride-by-wire throttle.
The power-to-weight ratio is right up there.
This engine loves to rev up eagerly with enough performance to not need gearing down to overtake on the freeway.
I still get surprised when I glance down and often see the speedo reading 140+

If I had to look for negatives, I could name only two:
Stock tyres are road-biased TKC70. I found them surprisingly good on loose gravel, rocky terrain and dirt roads, but when you hit the deep, soft sand, that rear tyre just does not have the push needed to keep the speed up, it spins away, gradually losing speed then ends up digging itself in, even at 1.2 BAR pressure. The front tends to weave a lot more than I expected in the sand, but that is still manageable. The more offroad orientated TKC80 would probably be a much more suitable choice. I hear that the KTM steering geometry favours a TKC80 front in soft sand, so I intend to fit one in front very soon. For the rear, I might got for the superb Anlas Capra X.
The second negative, and this not a biggie, is the less than expected low-end torque. The over-square, short-stroke piston, needs to be kept above 4000 RPM, otherwise the engine feels a bit reluctant. It took a while to adjust, coming from the KLR thumper with its massive low-end grunt, but now I am thoroughly enjoying how playful and eager this engine is once you get it purring in the higher RPM band.
All in all, I am one very happy customer.

I agree, it is a nice bike. The only negative for me was the hard seat.  :thumleft:


 

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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #90 on: July 17, 2020, 08:30:56 am »
And the 19" front,
And the alloy wheels.
And the shorter travel than a 310GS wheel travel......
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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #91 on: July 17, 2020, 08:55:35 am »
And the 19" front,
And the alloy wheels.
And the shorter travel than a 310GS wheel travel......

The KTM 390 Adventure is a way better bike than the 310GS full stop.

As far as the wheel size, alloy wheels and suspension travel is concerned, it's not meant to be a hard core offroad bike. If you want that, buy the Honda CRF Rally or a MX Plastic bike.  :deal:
 

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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #92 on: July 17, 2020, 09:01:04 am »
You see Edgar, thats the point I want to make.

When the 310 came out, those were all the complaints against it, it was slaughtered for those reasons, but with ktm its fine, its not meant to be an off roader bla bla blaah :peepwall:

Double standards I'd say old chap.

And please take note, I'm not saying it was you saying that, that was the general concensus between sayers. :imaposer:

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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #93 on: July 17, 2020, 09:08:09 am »
On that I agree with you. Being a DS Forum I can understand guys here tearing these bike apart, but one should be realistic as well. It is what it is.  :thumleft:

 

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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #94 on: July 17, 2020, 09:10:33 am »
But, being an 1150GSA owner, I'm anxiously awaiting that 490....

May just be my last bike ever bought
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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #95 on: July 17, 2020, 09:18:26 am »
We know the 390 is meant to be entry level but how hard could it have been to just increase the wheel size with spokes and give it suspension we know KTM puts on almost any bike of theirs. It would have made a good bike even better. Unless there will be a 390 Rally on the horizon but I doubt it with the 490 lurking. I understand it will also be built in India hopefully this time it will be kitted properly.
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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #96 on: July 17, 2020, 09:22:20 am »
I just bought one for my wife and agree with ultraflight on everything. Its an entry level bike that punches way above entry level
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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #97 on: July 17, 2020, 09:23:29 am »
But, being an 1150GSA owner, I'm anxiously awaiting that 490....

May just be my last bike ever bought
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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #98 on: July 17, 2020, 09:23:39 am »
True Sidetrack, they could've used parts from the EXC or Freerides, no extra design costs etc
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Re: KTM 390 in South Africa
« Reply #99 on: July 17, 2020, 09:26:33 am »
You see Edgar, thats the point I want to make.

When the 310 came out, those were all the complaints against it, it was slaughtered for those reasons, but with ktm its fine, its not meant to be an off roader bla bla blaah :peepwall:

Double standards I'd say old chap.

And please take note, I'm not saying it was you saying that, that was the general concensus between sayers. :imaposer:

Cue: enter the ktm captain....

Yep, the redneck trolls came out and had a field day.  ::)