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Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2020, 07:53:52 am »
Sal ‘n CRF250L nie ‘n lekker plaas fiets maak nie?
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Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2020, 08:07:33 am »
Getting back to this topic.
Would the TF not be much heavier on fuel than the 4 strokes for slow farm use?
Regarding the mixing: does it mix itself or do you need to do it?

Not much difference in consumption, remember these bikes putter around all day (irrigation) and yes they have autolube systems.
 

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Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2020, 08:19:20 am »
Getting back to this topic.
Would the TF not be much heavier on fuel than the 4 strokes for slow farm use?
Regarding the mixing: does it mix itself or do you need to do it?

Like Appel pointed out, not that much difference in consumption, and the TF has separate oil tanks, with a pump to meter oil to the engine. Been like this since 1969.

Only possible problem is letting this tank run dry, forgetting to fill up with oil. Not sure about the TF, but the Yamaha 2strokes have a warning light for when oil needs topping up.
 

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Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2020, 08:21:51 am »
Hi Mapog.
As far as i can see the tf is based on the ts engine that had a pump for mixing itself. Had one a few years back. Worked a like a charm in the veld. We just fitted a bigger sprocket at the back and it did well at low speeds.

Hi Kobus.
The honda mostlikly will not be a bad veldbike. But the people riding it is about half the lenght of us normal folk so it might be a bit high. On the old xl185 (s) we had to drop the front shocks on the tripple clamps and set the rear preload at its lowest for them to properly sure foot the bikes.
It is mainly used in the veld - no tarroad use at all. So it doesnt need registration docs and or lights ect. We normaly strip most of the electrics off lights+switches ect as they are dropped often in the veld due to aardvarkholes and then it breaks off eitherway.

We now waiting for lockdown to end so that we can get to the shops to compare price and lifespan ans sevice costs ect. So far the tf is the cheapest new best option. It is quite low seat hight and then its a 2stroke. Little that can go wrong imho. The older hondas (xl series) had head seize and cam chain failure due to overheating at slow speeds. The agricultural aircooled bikes have bigger cooling fins for better cooling.




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Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2020, 08:33:01 am »
The starter has now packed up (18k from the stealers!)


Lees ek reg hier? R18 000 vir n starter?
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« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2020, 08:36:04 am »
The starter has now packed up (18k from the stealers!)


Lees ek reg hier? R18 000 vir n starter?

Iemand maak n groot fout hier.

Dit is nog n groot voordeel van die 2slag TF, net skop aansit, en hy vat altyd eerste skop. Geen battery strond nie.
 

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Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2020, 08:46:54 am »
Hi Mapog.
As far as i can see the tf is based on the ts engine that had a pump for mixing itself. Had one a few years back. Worked a like a charm in the veld. We just fitted a bigger sprocket at the back and it did well at low speeds.

Hi Kobus.
The honda mostlikly will not be a bad veldbike. But the people riding it is about half the lenght of us normal folk so it might be a bit high. On the old xl185 (s) we had to drop the front shocks on the tripple clamps and set the rear preload at its lowest for them to properly sure foot the bikes.
It is mainly used in the veld - no tarroad use at all. So it doesnt need registration docs and or lights ect. We normaly strip most of the electrics off lights+switches ect as they are dropped often in the veld due to aardvarkholes and then it breaks off eitherway.

We now waiting for lockdown to end so that we can get to the shops to compare price and lifespan ans sevice costs ect. So far the tf is the cheapest new best option. It is quite low seat hight and then its a 2stroke. Little that can go wrong imho. The older hondas (xl series) had head seize and cam chain failure due to overheating at slow speeds. The agricultural aircooled bikes have bigger cooling fins for better cooling.




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Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2020, 10:06:13 am »
My vriend in die Roggeveld berge waar dit vrek koud word het n XL185 gehad waarvan die werkers die kickstarter drie keer afgeskop het oor onwillig om te start in die winter.
Ek beveel aan hy koop n TF125, nogal by Grabouw Suzuki wat gewoonlik altyd een op die vloer het.
Hy was nog nie een dag spyt nie. Lekker groter carrier agter gemaak sodat skaaphond se kind ook spasie het.
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Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2020, 10:18:15 am »
AG200 se box is so kort, al vier di ratte, hy gaan nooit overheat teen 20km/h nie
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Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2020, 10:29:42 am »
Al daai jare terug toe ons nog Amageza gery het, wou ek op n stadium @LoopSoosStroop se rekort vir die kleinste fiets wat klaarmaak, breek.  Ek het toe al n paar klaargemaak op n 690, so ek was reg vir iets anders.  Die plan was n TF125.  Ek het een gesponsor gekry in Upington.  Ek vat die dingetjie toe vir n toetsrit.  Ek kon nie eers so plat duintjie in standaard spec opkom nie.  Om nog petrol vir 275km + 1 botteltjie 2T olie, 2 liter koffie en 1 liter water, 1 kg droewors + navigasie goeters te dra sou glad nie deug nie.  Hoe is hierdie relevant?  Wel, dis meer relevant as n leeu wat n YZ250 jaag...
 

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Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2020, 11:53:45 am »
Daar is leeuboere...

Moet darem byse, jy wou darem koffie en droewors saamry, dalk tel dit darem effens vir die plaaslewe?😉
 

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Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2020, 08:37:48 am »
 Bottom line ....
Jy wil n werkperd en nie n speelperd oppie plaas he nie ....
 

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Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
« Reply #52 on: April 23, 2020, 08:51:36 am »
Wat van die DR200 van Suzuki?  Destyds voor ek my Bushlander gekoop het was dit tussen dié 2 fietse gewees.
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Re: Agricultural motorcycles.
« Reply #53 on: April 23, 2020, 08:57:08 am »
Net so goeie fiets, maar buurman op di plaas het problems met syne opgetel hier by 6000km.

Daai AG200 v Yamaha se ratte is so kort met n tikkir langer 4de, en n amper trekker seat, ideaal v plaas omstandighede.

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« Reply #54 on: April 23, 2020, 09:03:55 am »
Wat my met die Yamaha beïndruk het was daai ketting wat heel toe is.  Dis 'n baie goeie idee.
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« Reply #55 on: April 23, 2020, 09:04:44 am »
Ek't al vergeet van dit, soos di ou delivery bikes, onthou jy

En naturrlik sy brandstof verbruik, omrede hy so laag rev gebruik hy omtrent niks petrol ni.

Hy het ook sidestands aan beide kante vd fiets, so jy kan enige helling parkeer
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« Reply #56 on: April 23, 2020, 09:11:10 am »
AG 200 .. a true workhorse ...
Side stands both sides., enclosed finale chain drive, neutral at bottom of selector - no false neutrals . clutch lever has a quick sub lever to engage the clutch while in gear for say stop to open a gate, etc. , huge strong loading rack at rear end one small one in front of the handlebar, handlebar lever protectors in place , rim locks front and rear are standard ( mine was) , and more. . . . a true workhorse
I changed the final gearing to cruse at about 100 km/h on dirt highway plus to do some gnarly single tracks with a load ....
together with reliability and low cost of ownership  .... to me a clear winner !
I also had a Suzuki DF 200 , also an AG bike. It was not as tough as the AG 200 , by a mile.
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« Reply #57 on: April 23, 2020, 09:25:04 am »
Kan amper 2 TFs koop vir die prys van een AG?
 

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« Reply #58 on: April 23, 2020, 09:27:46 am »
Dis soos n laaitie wat n 2de handse BMW kan bekostig, ma ni sy services ni,
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« Reply #59 on: April 23, 2020, 09:29:09 am »
Kan amper 2 TFs koop vir die prys van een AG?
Mapog, koop dan eerder 2 Puzeys of Bigboys, gaan nog goedkoper uitwerk en dieselfde tyd hou?
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