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Re: Leaping Lena.
« Reply #60 on: March 28, 2020, 05:40:56 pm »
While a rider on a modern bike would undoubtedly feel more confident, Joey Dunlop did win at the IOM on a Yamaha TZ750, many, many years ago though.


Which year was that?

Maybe 1980, the REA Racing TZ750? I was supposed to be there that year spectating but was broke as usual.  ::)

You have a very good memory sir.

His 1st victory on a Rea Haulage Yamaha was in '77 but that had a Seeley frame (to improve handling). It was also the original 700cc motor.

Can't find anything on the 1980 frame though. Will keep digging.
 

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Re: Leaping Lena.
« Reply #61 on: March 28, 2020, 05:43:35 pm »
While a rider on a modern bike would undoubtedly feel more confident, Joey Dunlop did win at the IOM on a Yamaha TZ750, many, many years ago though.


Which year was that?

Maybe 1980, the REA Racing TZ750? I was supposed to be there that year spectating but was broke as usual.  ::)

You have a very good memory sir.

His 1st victory on a Rea Haulage Yamaha was in '77 but that had a Seeley frame (to improve handling). It was also the original 700cc motor.

Can't find anything on the 1980 frame though. Will keep digging.

I was wondering if that much later footage might have been one of Joey's bikes?
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Re: Leaping Lena.
« Reply #62 on: March 28, 2020, 07:37:40 pm »
On the Duke video about the life and death of Joey, they show where about 3 of his TZ's drown after the ship sank, or storm ht it or something, on the way to the IOM.
 

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Re: Leaping Lena.
« Reply #63 on: March 28, 2020, 07:45:59 pm »
On the Duke video about the life and death of Joey, they show where about 3 of his TZ's drown after the ship sank, or storm ht it or something, on the way to the IOM.

Wasn't aware Dan (old age memory).  :thumleft:
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Re: Leaping Lena.
« Reply #64 on: March 28, 2020, 07:51:36 pm »
On the Duke video about the life and death of Joey, they show where about 3 of his TZ's drown after the ship sank, or storm ht it or something, on the way to the IOM.

Wasn't aware Dan (old age memory).  :thumleft:

Joey actually saved the life of a crew member. After pepole heaped praise on him for his bravery, he mumbled at least 3 words. :ricky:

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Re: Leaping Lena.
« Reply #65 on: March 29, 2020, 01:10:45 pm »
On the Duke video about the life and death of Joey, they show where about 3 of his TZ's drown after the ship sank, or storm ht it or something, on the way to the IOM.

Wasn't aware Dan (old age memory).  :thumleft:

Joey actually saved the life of a crew member. After pepole heaped praise on him for his bravery, he mumbled at least 3 words. :ricky:

Probably my favourite motorcycle personality, or right up there.


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Re: Leaping Lena.
« Reply #66 on: March 29, 2020, 01:14:41 pm »
On the Duke video about the life and death of Joey, they show where about 3 of his TZ's drown after the ship sank, or storm ht it or something, on the way to the IOM.

Wasn't aware Dan (old age memory).  :thumleft:

Joey actually saved the life of a crew member. After pepole heaped praise on him for his bravery, he mumbled at least 3 words. :ricky:

Probably my favourite motorcycle personality, or right up there.


+1.   :thumleft:

And died racing a 125cc in a charity round the houses, correction it was a circuit and he had already won the 600cc and 750cc classes! to raise money for an orphanage in Estonia I think?  :( I just looked it up, hard to believe it will be 20 years this year since he died! 50 thousand mourners attended his funeral, a big man.
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« Reply #67 on: March 29, 2020, 01:39:02 pm »
Joey, part of his gang of roadracers called the Armoy Armada, after his birth town of Armoy. I think it is only Michael left of that bunch. :'(
 

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« Reply #68 on: March 29, 2020, 03:28:57 pm »
Fascinating stuff - then if I remember they shoehorned the TZ750 into a flatracker for KR to ride; a bike he was somewhat cautious of and he made the comment "they don’t pay me enough to ride that thing'.
 

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« Reply #69 on: March 29, 2020, 03:52:55 pm »
Fascinating stuff - then if I remember they shoehorned the TZ750 into a flatracker for KR to ride; a bike he was somewhat cautious of and he made the comment "they don’t pay me enough to ride that thing'.

Good videos of that bike, as well as Kenny riding the same bike on a exhibition lap about 30 odd years later.
 

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« Reply #70 on: March 29, 2020, 03:55:10 pm »
:imaposer: talking about strapping, check how the exhaust is strapped to the under carriage....

Because of the pipes being made out of very thin-walled sheet, they were scared of the possibility of the pipes cracking during a race, so they anti-vibration strapped it.
 

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« Reply #71 on: March 30, 2020, 09:05:34 am »
On the Duke video about the life and death of Joey, they show where about 3 of his TZ's drown after the ship sank, or storm ht it or something, on the way to the IOM.

Wasn't aware Dan (old age memory).  :thumleft:

Joey actually saved the life of a crew member. After pepole heaped praise on him for his bravery, he mumbled at least 3 words. :ricky:

Probably my favourite motorcycle personality, or right up there.


+1.   :thumleft:

And died racing a 125cc in a charity round the houses, correction it was a circuit and he had already won the 600cc and 750cc classes! to raise money for an orphanage in Estonia I think?  :( I just looked it up, hard to believe it will be 20 years this year since he died! 50 thousand mourners attended his funeral, a big man.

He often loaded his race bikes and lots of food and clothes in his van and went to race in Estonia, dishing out the food and clothing to orphanages.  He usually arrived unannounced and used a tent for his pits if no proper pits were available.  He never insisted on a pit in the complex if none was available.
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Re: Leaping Lena.
« Reply #72 on: March 30, 2020, 09:45:34 am »
I was wondering if that much later footage might have been one of Joey's bikes?

Can't tell cause we can't see race number or sponsor. On board sound is terrible.

Here's a short clip from 1980 - trackside cameras deliver much better sound.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sg-CXSt9_jI

Now you can relive 1980.
 

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Re: Leaping Lena.
« Reply #73 on: March 30, 2020, 09:59:06 am »
I was wondering if that much later footage might have been one of Joey's bikes?

Can't tell cause we can't see race number or sponsor. On board sound is terrible.

Here's a short clip from 1980 - trackside cameras deliver much better sound.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sg-CXSt9_jI

Now you can relive 1980.

Thanks, a great video, short and with good footage.

115mph average speed lap in 1980, today's record, as far as I know, stands at 136mph. If you consider the really massive leaps in tyre, chassis and engine tech, over the full 40 years that passed, then

indeed 1980 is not a bad time to relive.
 

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Re: Leaping Lena.
« Reply #74 on: March 30, 2020, 11:53:25 am »
On the Duke video about the life and death of Joey, they show where about 3 of his TZ's drown after the ship sank, or storm ht it or something, on the way to the IOM.

Wasn't aware Dan (old age memory).  :thumleft:

Joey actually saved the life of a crew member. After pepole heaped praise on him for his bravery, he mumbled at least 3 words. :ricky:

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And then there is Guy Martin. One of my favorite racing personalities.
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« Reply #75 on: March 30, 2020, 03:02:52 pm »
On the Duke video about the life and death of Joey, they show where about 3 of his TZ's drown after the ship sank, or storm ht it or something, on the way to the IOM.

Wasn't aware Dan (old age memory).  :thumleft:

Joey actually saved the life of a crew member. After pepole heaped praise on him for his bravery, he mumbled at least 3 words. :ricky:

Probably my favourite motorcycle personality, or right up there.

And then there is Guy Martin. One of my favorite racing personalities.

Guy is a very special person too, so enthusiastic over all sorts of different things.

And anyone that owns his own RollsRoyce Merlin Spitfire engine........ :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
 

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Re: Leaping Lena.
« Reply #76 on: March 30, 2020, 03:59:59 pm »
That Kenny Roberts TZ750 flat tracker.

I have a long memory though it can fail me sometimes, but wasn't it Kenny himself who built the damn thing in the first place?  ???
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Re: Leaping Lena.
« Reply #77 on: March 30, 2020, 04:05:16 pm »
That Kenny Roberts TZ750 flat tracker.

I have a long memory though it can fail me sometimes, but wasn't it Kenny himself who built the damn thing in the first place?  ???

I thought it was a factory or Yamaha USA bike, after that he said he wouldn't ride it again "they don't pay me enough to ride that thing" or words to that effect.  :biggrin: after that the AMA Banned it.  :patch:
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Re: Leaping Lena.
« Reply #78 on: March 30, 2020, 05:26:58 pm »
Yamaha motor corporation, typically Japanese, would not touch the TZ tracker build.

It was up to the CEO of Champion frames, Doug Scherma, to build them, and it was his original idea anyway to use the 4 cylinder 2stroke engine as the base for a flat track miler.

Kenny was not the first to ride it either, that honour went to Gary Hocking.
 

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Re: Leaping Lena.
« Reply #79 on: March 30, 2020, 05:43:33 pm »
Yamaha motor corporation, typically Japanese, would not touch the TZ tracker build.

It was up to the CEO of Champion frames, Doug Scherma, to build them, and it was his original idea anyway to use the 4 cylinder 2stroke engine as the base for a flat track miler.

Kenny was not the first to ride it either, that honour went to Gary Hocking.

How about 5 frames built, all by different frame builders apparently at Champion, yes I went to Wicki.  :thumleft: 
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