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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #60 on: August 26, 2020, 09:22:59 am »
Ironically KTM is picking up on this genre - ready to race orange expensive gear with a spray on Brad Binder tat to cement the thought.

Remember the toaster.

A fucking toaster!

I mean, I have KTM gloves, T-shirt, jacket, buff... but I draw the line at owning a fucking branded KTM toaster. If you own a KTM toaster I label you the same as people who stick the Apple sticker he got with his Ipad on the back of their cars, you KTM toaster okes and the Apple morons are equal twatwaffles in my eyes.

I have a KTM toaster. as well as a tent, chair, mug, dogfood bowl, rubber duck and  and a cuckoo clock with a little man on a KTM popping out and revving its engine on the hour. Also KTM stickers on just about everything I own. I've never denied the fact that I'm a moron and a twatwaffle, I've embraced it.

Makes 2 of us Ben. I have a KTM doormat and bottle opener as well :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:
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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #61 on: August 26, 2020, 10:27:47 am »
I have a KTM ..... rubber duck

 :-\
I only now realize they have this.... and I don't!
Shit, will have to have a better look next time, I thought my gumboots (which I have filthened up to "Wuss" already!   :3some: ) were very suited for in my bathroom - and don't judge me here please, I have a very sensitive and tender personality.
That clock sounds awesome btw, will start saving for it as from now!  :thumleft:
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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #62 on: August 26, 2020, 01:11:34 pm »
Seems Harley could learn bout lifestyle from KTM
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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #63 on: August 26, 2020, 02:40:30 pm »
Seems Harley could learn bout lifestyle from KTM

The difference is that that KTM isnít trying to sell a lifestyle or a degree of exclusivity. Their biking wear is good quality and competitively priced with other high end brands ,  while the wrist watches, wallets, sunglasses etc. are similar to what many other automotive brands sell  The other goods are mostly fun items, intended to bring a smile and not aimed at pretentious people with sophisticated tastes.
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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #64 on: August 26, 2020, 03:18:24 pm »
Seems Harley could learn bout lifestyle from KTM

The difference is that that KTM isnít trying to sell a lifestyle or a degree of exclusivity. Their biking wear is good quality and competitively priced with other high end brands ,  while the wrist watches, wallets, sunglasses etc. are similar to what many other automotive brands sell  The other goods are mostly fun items, intended to bring a smile and not aimed at pretentious people with sophisticated tastes.

I think you are being a romantic. There is no difference. Both are motivated by lucre.

But on a Harley you have heritage an a sweet history. I donít see no biker gangs in flieks on their ktm s cod they all at home making soggy toast circles.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2020, 03:20:59 pm by IceCreamMan »
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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2020, 03:52:46 pm »
Ek gaan vreet eerder Donfords se muffins op.

Nee o donner...... :eek7:

Ek hoop nie ek word ooit met n pistool voor n keuse gestel; "Motorrad" of Harley"........

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Laat my dink aan 'n grappie.

Man stap bar toe nadat hy uit die badkamer kom. 
Barman: Hoekom is jy so bleek?
Man: Ek was besig om te pee toe druk 'n man 'n pistool teen my kop en sÍ ek moet hom 'n blowjob gee of hy skiet my kop af.
Barman:  En? Wat het jy gemaak?
Man: Wel, jy het nie 'n skoot gehoor nie het jy?

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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #66 on: August 26, 2020, 03:54:24 pm »
Ironically KTM is picking up on this genre - ready to race orange expensive gear with a spray on Brad Binder tat to cement the thought.

Remember the toaster.

A fucking toaster!

I mean, I have KTM gloves, T-shirt, jacket, buff... but I draw the line at owning a fucking branded KTM toaster. If you own a KTM toaster I label you the same as people who stick the Apple sticker he got with his Ipad on the back of their cars, you KTM toaster okes and the Apple morons are equal twatwaffles in my eyes.

I have a KTM toaster. as well as a tent, chair, mug, dogfood bowl, rubber duck and  and a cuckoo clock with a little man on a KTM popping out and revving its engine on the hour. Also KTM stickers on just about everything I own. I've never denied the fact that I'm a moron and a twatwaffle, I've embraced it.

Makes 2 of us Ben. I have a KTM doormat and bottle opener as well :thumleft: :thumleft: :thumleft:

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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2020, 04:49:49 pm »
Seems Harley could learn bout lifestyle from KTM

The difference is that that KTM isnít trying to sell a lifestyle or a degree of exclusivity. Their biking wear is good quality and competitively priced with other high end brands ,  while the wrist watches, wallets, sunglasses etc. are similar to what many other automotive brands sell  The other goods are mostly fun items, intended to bring a smile and not aimed at pretentious people with sophisticated tastes.

I think you are being a romantic. There is no difference. Both are motivated by lucre.

But on a Harley you have heritage an a sweet history. I donít see no biker gangs in flieks on their ktm s cod they all at home making soggy toast circles.

And getting ready to race.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2020, 04:51:01 pm by Odd Dog »
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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2020, 09:45:50 am »
i used to love wearing my hd store tshirts while riding my gs Ö made people wonder a bit it seems
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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #70 on: August 31, 2020, 12:32:41 pm »
i used to love wearing my hd store tshirts while riding my gs Ö made people wonder a bit it seems

More often than not I am wearing my HD helmet when riding my GS. In town most of the time. :thumleft:
 

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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #71 on: September 01, 2020, 01:40:58 pm »
Must say I have ridden quite a few Harleys... never been impressed because all the Heritage seems to be giving these last few years is shoddy brakes, rubbish handling, pathetic performance and poor workmanship with overinflated pricing in an era where there is no excuse anymore.... Then I rode the Indians.... loved the Scout.... stonking motor, and just felt right in all areas....  :thumleft:

Make no mistake I like Harley... but their product has been poor for quite a few years now... :-[ :(
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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #72 on: September 02, 2020, 07:04:36 am »
Must say I have ridden quite a few Harleys... never been impressed because all the Heritage seems to be giving these last few years is shoddy brakes, rubbish handling, pathetic performance and poor workmanship with overinflated pricing in an era where there is no excuse anymore.... Then I rode the Indians.... loved the Scout.... stonking motor, and just felt right in all areas....  :thumleft:

Make no mistake I like Harley... but their product has been poor for quite a few years now... :-[ :(
im quite happy with my ultra..had to turf back shocks though..2013 model... and my 98 softail i love with passion
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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #73 on: September 02, 2020, 07:05:13 am »
Must say I have ridden quite a few Harleys... never been impressed because all the Heritage seems to be giving these last few years is shoddy brakes, rubbish handling, pathetic performance and poor workmanship with overinflated pricing in an era where there is no excuse anymore.... Then I rode the Indians.... loved the Scout.... stonking motor, and just felt right in all areas....  :thumleft:

Make no mistake I like Harley... but their product has been poor for quite a few years now... :-[ :(
do look at Indians with long eyes but my ship just wont come in
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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #74 on: September 02, 2020, 02:43:37 pm »
Must say I have ridden quite a few Harleys... never been impressed because all the Heritage seems to be giving these last few years is shoddy brakes, rubbish handling, pathetic performance and poor workmanship with overinflated pricing in an era where there is no excuse anymore.... Then I rode the Indians.... loved the Scout.... stonking motor, and just felt right in all areas....  :thumleft:

Make no mistake I like Harley... but their product has been poor for quite a few years now... :-[ :(
do look at Indians with long eyes but my ship just wont come in

Agree Max....I see Indian are starting to get seriously into racing in the US... back to their roots it seems.... built a factory bike for hill-climbing with a factory backed team :thumleft:

Harley needs to take a leaf from Indian...  ;)
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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #75 on: September 07, 2020, 02:39:19 pm »
HD 338 to be built in China leaked. Don't think this model will go down well with the tassel and chrome gang

https://advrider.com/harley-davidson-338r-image-leaked/
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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #76 on: September 25, 2020, 03:15:34 pm »
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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #77 on: September 28, 2020, 09:52:46 am »
Harley is a viable brand. It will survive.

Might not have the range or all the gizmos but it will survive.

I think if they retreat like this then they will stand a chance..

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/25/business/harley-davidson-india-exit/index.html
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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #78 on: September 28, 2020, 10:41:46 am »
Harley is a viable brand. It will survive.

Might not have the range or all the gizmos but it will survive.

I think if they retreat like this then they will stand a chance..

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/25/business/harley-davidson-india-exit/index.html

I agree. India was a crap market for HD. Itís a hero Honda type market not a Harley market. In time it will be though.

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Re: How Harley-Davidson Killed Itself
« Reply #79 on: October 02, 2020, 01:07:44 pm »
Apparently according to motoring scribes Harley will No longer bring the sportster range to Europe from2021 due to euro 5 emissions coming into play. The sportster is a big seller an is a ďgateway ď Harley.

Hope they working on a liquid cooled motor for a new sportster range. We wait n see.

« Last Edit: October 02, 2020, 08:58:45 pm by IceCreamMan »
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