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Offline blitzer

Engine oil for the cbr 125
« on: June 30, 2020, 03:48:54 pm »
Ok the manual specifications i got from the internet (still not sure if this is applies to the 2010 cbr 125 r)
But i guess i have to assume it does:

https://www.manualslib.com/download/1244336/Honda-Cbr125r.html

That manual states that i need either of the below choices, sorry if i might sound like an idiot but the options confuse me they seem to say basically the same thing except the one says "if it shows energy conserving on the label don't use it" ?? or am i understanding it incorrectly.

Second i called all the auto parts stores in my area and they say they do not have 10W /30 oil.
They only have 10W /40 oil.

So now what ? Now where can i find that people are using 10W /40 oil in this bike ?

Manual states:
Engine oil capacity At draining 1.0 liter (1.1 US qt, 0.9 lmp qt) –
At disassembly 1.3 liters (1.4 US qt, 1.1 lmp qt) –

Recommended engine oil Except CM type Honda "4-stroke motorcycle oil" or an
equivalent
API classification: SG or higher (except
oils labeled as energy conserving on
the circular API service label)
JASO T 903 standard: MA
Viscosity: SAE 10W-30


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CM type only Pro Honda GN4 4-stroke oil or equivalent motor oil
API service classification: SG or Higher
JASO T 903 standard: MA
Viscosity: SAE 10W-30
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Oil pump rotor Tip clearance – 0.15 (0.006)
Body clearance 0.15 – 0.21 (0.006 – 0.008) 0.26 (0.010)
Side clearance 0.05 – 0.10 (0.002 – 0.004) 0.12 (0.005)



 

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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2020, 04:03:34 pm »
Get Motul, they'll have for bikes, but in 10w40/50 range, I run my son's XR125 on 20w50.

But get bike oil as the clutch runs in the same oil too
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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2020, 05:03:14 pm »
My lawn mower also specifies 10/30 and I could only get 10/40 so then I left it as I did not want to damage the motor. I heard it is half of a CBR125 motor Honda uses in their garden care range. Next time I split the motor and re use the crankcase gasket I will check to see why it does not shift nicely when going from the tortoise to the hare picture on the handlebars.I think the clutch is broken somehow.
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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2020, 05:11:22 pm »
You can use Shell Helix HX3  or  HX5 .  Both oils are clutch friendly.  However if your clutch is suspect i would rather use a motorbike specific oil like Motul 4T 10W40
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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2020, 06:13:21 pm »
So, prescribed is a 10W30 oil.
That's a bitofafunny viscosity range, but if you find it then good for you.
I'd not even go look for it but would put Shell Helix Ultra (the grey tin) in, a 10W40 full synthetic oil, indeed without friction-modifiers hence clutch friendly.
It's a high spec oil, available around also your corner, purrrfect for the bike  :thumleft:
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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2020, 08:02:00 pm »
Before all the questions, post n picture of your bike >:D  let's see!!!
 

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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2020, 08:24:57 pm »
Honestly, I’d just use a bike specific oil. Almost any of the bike oils of the right viscosity (10w40 is close enough) will beat an SG spec.

As much as the esteemed gents above have said those Shell products are clutch friendly, there is nothing in the Data Sheets that prove  that, so I’d stick with something with a JASO MA or MA2 rating.
 

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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2020, 07:44:00 am »
Thanks, i guess i am still not sure now..... Where can i get bike specific oil ? Only at a bike dealership ?
 

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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2020, 08:33:31 am »
Thanks, i guess i am still not sure now..... Where can i get bike specific oil ? Only at a bike dealership ?

Any bike spares/accesory shop.  The brands like Motul, Fuchs Silkolene, and Motorex are all very Motorcycle specific. Then LiquiMoly has a bike range as well.

JASO MA/MA2 is the rating that makes sure it's good for a wet clutch (which your bike clearly has since it asks for that rating).
 

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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2020, 08:34:13 am »
Thanks, i guess i am still not sure now..... Where can i get bike specific oil ? Only at a bike dealership ?

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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2020, 08:35:42 am »
Some Midas sells Castrol Actevo, which is a bike oil.

Or Startline in Edenvale Durbs and CPT also sells, or any bike shop
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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2020, 09:52:04 am »
Ok thanks guys this is helpful information, final question.
If anyone knows where i can find bike oil in the west rand/florida area please do tell.

I am going to go to Midas in florida to see if they have Castrol Actevo, then there is another midas off discovery area.

I contacted them both. Florida branch was engaged but i emailed them and they did not bother to respond.
I did get hold of a someone at the "off discovery area" branch, he said they do not have 10W /30 but they do have 10W /40 for R100 a liter. He could not tell me what brand or if it will work on a bike.

So If anyone else knows of any place near this vicinity please this will help a lot.
Autozone in the same areas seems to not wanting to help, due to this i'm still unsure what or if they have.

There is a goldwagen (but this is only for bmw/volkswagen vehicles ?) so dont think they will have, i will call them anyway.


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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2020, 10:00:54 am »
Google " Motorcycle Shops"  in your area.  There are at least a Suzuki and Honda dealer as well as a few independents.
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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2020, 10:24:57 am »
Before all the questions, post n picture of your bike >:D  let's see!!!

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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2020, 10:46:31 am »
Google " Motorcycle Shops"  in your area.  There are at least a Suzuki and Honda dealer as well as a few independents.

Thanks, i did try Suzuki, the would not bother to respond, but i will try Honda, perhaps just go there in person right now ! Thank you :)
 

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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2020, 10:47:16 am »
Before all the questions, post n picture of your bike >:D  let's see!!!

Ja nee we're being had here I'm sure.

No bike pics, no advice  :deal:
i did reply to this question much earlier on or was it in my other posts ? Anyway will post pics when i can for sure, but nothing to drool over, its just a 125 (which i am very happy with, its a pretty little bike, and i don't need anything more than that ) very happy so far :)
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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2020, 11:10:06 am »
Ok even Honda does not have 10W /30 only 10w /40 But obviously it being honda they should have the right oil, i wil go get my 1 liter bottle for R135 thanks for the help :)
 

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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2020, 11:38:53 am »
Bike shops are not known for their religious e-mail usage.  The one I trust with my bike and life, are notoriously bad at e-mail responses.

Anyway, 10w-40 will be fine.  The 2nd number indicates the expected behaviour of the viscosity of the oil at high temperatures.  40 is better than 30.  The 1st number is the important one.
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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2020, 01:13:58 pm »
Autozone should have Castrol Power 1 or Castrol Actevo 4-stroke oil
I always buy from either these two shops or Makro
Both these are around R100 - R120 per liter and they are JASO MA compliant (bike specific for wet clutch bikes)
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Re: Engine oil for the cbr 125
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2020, 01:19:24 pm »
10W30 must be fork oil.

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