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Interesting electric Scooter...
« on: July 24, 2020, 08:59:04 am »
an interesting (Spanish) Electric Scooter (manufacturers call it a Performance Moped!) popped in for a Delivery Box at our Store yesterday....
reminds me very much of a Madass scooter, from back in the day...


Chap owning it is planning to run a small fleet of them, for VARIED delivery needs, not just foodstuffs...


Apparently range is a reliable 185km per charge (unless 'pinning' it), vehicle costs around R120K, and appears very well built and finished...


Charging is through normal 220V wall socket, and the power cable travels with the bike, no no fancy 'fast' chargers, etc.


Battery can be fully charged in around 3 hours, or else roughly 8km range every 10 minutes of charge...


Battery pops out in a side loading case...never found out why, since not needed to open to charge, possibly just showing replacement, else SWAPPING batteries around...?


What we liked is that the PILLION seat (?) raises to 90 Degrees, allowing a HUGE (MarkIV - the biggest we stock) delivery box to fit on the bike, WITHOUT ANY OVERHANG; meaning WELL-forward = better handling. Obviously this things c.o.g. is on the floor, literally!


A 'medium' delivery box actually sits inboard (no overhang) on the bike, which is a 1st for us...


A small, 'regular' top box would fit with pillion seat down (in place), but we REALLY like the massive platform for mounting a delivery box, and that then gives the delivery rider a back-rest!


Web link is HERE for those interested: https://nuuk-europe.com/en/pf/urban/


Top speed around 110KM/h, but it is HOW it gets there which is fun; near-linear acceleration without gear changes - hold on TIGHT!
Nice 17 inch wheels, too...



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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2020, 09:09:24 am »
That is very cool indeed and looks half adventure`ish :thumleft:
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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2020, 09:15:50 am »
Like the minimalist looks. Expensive, but should be very cheap to run if high mileage is required (low "fuel" cost, little maintenance). Probably also more abuse proof...
 

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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2020, 09:17:39 am »
if that is R120k then no wonder the Zero bikes are like R300k

battery prices need to come down  :o
 

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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2020, 09:20:59 am »
Two questions: How much does the bike weigh and can you pop a wheelie with it  :imaposer:
 

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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2020, 09:26:11 am »


Quote from: Edgar on Today at 09:20:59 am>Two questions: How much does the bike weigh and can you pop a wheelie with it  :imaposer:
138kg, and I cannot see why not!!!!


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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2020, 09:45:22 am »
Interesting, but very pricey and slow, to ride on our freeways, if you can't do 120 the cars just drive you off the road.

Effectively 60k more than lets say a SYM Citicom 300 that does 30kms to a liter (and 120km/h and more). So effectivlty the electric bike would have to do about 130,000 kms to break even on just the price difference on fuel cost only?
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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2020, 09:53:40 am »


Quote from: meteldog on Today at 09:45:22 am
Interesting, but very pricey and slow, to ride on our freeways, if you can't do 120 the cars just drive you off the road.

Effectively 60k more than lets say a SYM Citicom 300 that does 30kms to a liter (and 120km/h and more). So effectivlty the electric bike would have to do about 130,000 kms to break even on just the price difference on fuel cost only?
Your Math is good  ;)
...just remember service costs, too, and 'downtime' during servicing, too...
but I get your point, fair comment.

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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2020, 10:08:07 am »
What license do you need?
In what class does it fall. Can a 16 year old ride it?
 

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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2020, 11:20:34 am »
Yes, nice enough - and staggeringly costly I think, not for SA.
But, CT's always been the odd one... hey Chris, you being a prime example of doing things "Today!" instead of "Ag my Bru, there's always Tomorrow?"  :P
Ja wel nou ma fine, good for the oke running this lil' fleet!  :thumleft:


Edited: Oh, that range will likely be drastically lessened by CT's hilly features, but then there's always downhill I suppose  ;)
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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2020, 02:15:46 pm »
Two questions: How much does the bike weigh and can you pop a wheelie with it  :imaposer:

Not to mention oil, tyres and helmet !
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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2020, 02:31:02 pm »
Couple of comments about this being expensive?
Compared to a cheap chinese scooter?
Because this is neither chinese nor combustion technology?
You dont have to search very hard, to find there are a whole lot of willdogs that own bicycles that cost more than this... :patch:

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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2020, 07:35:36 pm »
But they aren't delivering things on those bikes...
So much to do, so little time. Better get going then!
 

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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2020, 06:16:31 am »
Once the carbon tax comes in and oil prices rise,these things will start paying for themselves...I can see how a Takelot or Mr Delivery could run a fleet of these, powered by solar could reap the benefits


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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2020, 06:24:16 am »
Once the carbon tax comes in and oil prices rise,these things will start paying for themselves...I can see how a Takelot or Mr Delivery could run a fleet of these, powered by solar could reap the benefits


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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2020, 03:40:06 pm »
Couple of comments about this being expensive?
Compared to a cheap chinese scooter?

Nope, an epitome of reliability Japanese 125, which costs 20K odd.
That leaves 100K for fuel & maintenance.
Do some math here....  ;)


'Powered by Solar' someone said.
Sure, sounds very nice, and the sun shines mos for free - sounds even nicer!
You got solar?
Yes?
How many KW/hours do you get during the ~4 peak-hours i.e averaged?
If that is sufficient to charge this bike within its off-mains-charged specified timeframe then you'll know what such a solar installation actually costs.
If not then also do some math, and you'll find that 'solar' is hardly free but a rather costly option.
We'll get there solarwise eventually, but hydrocarbons have to become quite a bit more dear first  ;)
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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2020, 05:54:56 pm »
Couple of comments about this being expensive?
Compared to a cheap chinese scooter?

Nope, an epitome of reliability Japanese 125, which costs 20K odd.
That leaves 100K for fuel & maintenance.
Do some math here....  ;)


'Powered by Solar' someone said.
Sure, sounds very nice, and the sun shines mos for free - sounds even nicer!
You got solar?
Yes?
How many KW/hours do you get during the ~4 peak-hours i.e averaged?
If that is sufficient to charge this bike within its off-mains-charged specified timeframe then you'll know what such a solar installation actually costs.
If not then also do some math, and you'll find that 'solar' is hardly free but a rather costly option.
We'll get there solarwise eventually, but hydrocarbons have to become quite a bit more dear first  ;)

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Miskien wil die ou net meer groen gaan, gaan nie altyd om geld nie.
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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2020, 07:16:10 pm »
Once the carbon tax comes in and oil prices rise,these things will start paying for themselves...I can see how a Takelot or Mr Delivery could run a fleet of these, powered by solar could reap the benefits


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Re: Interesting electric Scooter...
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2020, 01:31:34 pm »
Couple of comments about this being expensive?
Compared to a cheap chinese scooter?

<basic economics reply>

Miskien wil die ou net meer groen gaan, gaan nie altyd om geld nie.

Ma jy vra dan n vra oor geld?  :help:
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