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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1280 on: November 08, 2010, 08:10:46 am »
With the DRZ, the biggest constraint is actually the header pipe. You could keep your stock end-can and rather get an aftermarket header pipe that flows better.

Gino, your pipe will be rather loud if you gut it.

Unfortunately with a thumper, high performance always goes hand-in-hand with noise...  :-\

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1281 on: November 08, 2010, 09:06:44 am »
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1282 on: November 08, 2010, 09:12:35 am »
Bus ,

Your comment is interesting , as most people reccomend keeping standard headers on and change tailpiece. It seems logical that the headers will play a bigger role in helping the engine to breath better.

I saw your video and your bike seems to go like a bat out of hell , what aftermarket headers do you reccomend ?
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1283 on: November 08, 2010, 09:12:40 am »
Thanks for sharing this with all 10000 members, many would have kept quiet after such an oops.
 

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1284 on: November 08, 2010, 09:27:15 am »
Manufacturers are clever... They market slip-on pipes as "performance enhancing" pipes... When, in essence, all you are getting is a better sounding pipe. The sound alone is enough to convince you that your bike is pulling better.  :biggrin:

Sometimes there is a slight gain to be had, especially if the stock end-can was very restrictive... But to me, it isnt worth it. An end-can alone cant make that big difference on a thumper single. Its more about what happens to the air as it comes out of the motor.

But also, I speak from DRZ experience only... I have a Yoshi RS2 full system on my bike and it was a massive improvement over the stock S-system. (BTW, the stock E-pipe is much less restrictive than the S)

You could look at getting a FMF Powerbomb header or similar (I think Letsgofishing has one)

Or you could get a full system like Yoshi, FMF etc...

Currently the best pipe for a DRZ is the MRD full system pipe, custom made/designed for the DRZ with lots of dyno time and research that went into it. But it is moera loud apparently...

But once again, the highest performance is going to come from the loudest pipe...  :-\
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1285 on: November 08, 2010, 01:44:56 pm »
interesting, thanks Bus.

where is the best place to get the FMF power bomb?
could one not just modify the headed to a larger diameter pipe?

i do not have R6000 for a full Yoshi :(

never heard of the MRD, cost? and where?

yeh, the noise is something i dont really want, hmmm.

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1286 on: November 08, 2010, 01:57:17 pm »
The best thing when buying a zorst is to import it.

You will pay half of the SA-price, even after import duties, shipping etc...  >:(

The only downside is the wait... About a month max...

When I got my Yosh, it was between R7-8k local. I got it from the USA, all-in, for just under R4k...

You can look for Powerbomb headers on Ebay stores, its where I got my Yosh from. (Think it was called JC Motors or something). You can also try the Thumpertalk online Store.

MRD is a US zorst company that helped to produce a custom pipe for the DRZ with hundreds of hours of dyno work and tweaking to make it flow the best. They call it the MRD SSW pipe. But apparently its helluva loud...
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1287 on: November 08, 2010, 03:58:12 pm »
Here we go again I gotmy DRZ 2 weeks ago at a really good price R 49 000.00 . I have a 1200 GSA and a F800GS that have all the bling on it. With the DRZ I wanted a light bike to bugger around on and do more technical stuff and just be a hooligan ( Must be mid life crisis or something) . I promised myself that I would only put handguards on to protect the levers when I see my arse and no bling I would keep it standard. A week later I have bought a 15 liter IMS tank and now Bus has got me going down the full exhaust bit. You look again and your cheapie play bike is suddenly a 70K bike.

Why do we put ourselves through this?
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1288 on: November 08, 2010, 04:08:51 pm »
LOL!!!

Its just the nature of the beast...

Its like trying not to stare at a nice pair of tits, we are hopeless...

Enjoy the pimping

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1289 on: November 08, 2010, 04:27:16 pm »
I got my Powerbomb header from Thumpertalk  :thumleft:
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1290 on: November 08, 2010, 04:34:16 pm »
Bus ,

I have just registered on Thumpertalk and they have given me a 10% discount on my first purchase. Very American but I will take it.

The only Yoshimura complete system I see is the RS-3 complete , is this what you have . I see that it is for years 2000 to 2007 mine is new but probably manufactured in 2009 , were there any changes ? I would hate to import the wrong pipe. Part number 19-9604.

$545.95 less 10% x 6.80 = R 3 341 not a bad price for a complete set , can you remember roughly what the shipping cost ? and I assume you paid V.A.T when it arrived.

And the most important question has it really increased your bikes performance ? up here at 5 500 feet above sealevel we probably suffer at least a 20 % power loss , I am not about to try and race and win the Roof of Africa on the bike , but with my fat gat I need as much power as I can get.
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1291 on: November 08, 2010, 04:47:30 pm »
Bliksem, I cant remember the exact rates, but I ended up paying less than R4k total with everything... I was so excited when I got it, I just payed the money and bolted, hehehe...

For me the pipe was def worth it, as mine is a S model and the standard S pipe is really tight at the headers. So it gave my bike a nice kick up the arse...

Ask LGF if he noticed a lekker bump from the Powerbomb pipe... He also has an E.

As for the Yoshi pipe on TT... It was always a bit of a funny issue. I cant remember exactly, but I think the RS2 full system never showed in the brochure. Maybe ask someone on there to shed some light. The RS3 is very similar, but the RS2 is the one to go for... It looks nicer and is newer.

Also just make sure that you get the E version, I believe the mounting point for the mid-pipe is slightly different.

Like I said, its been a while since Ive been on TT, so just ask some Q's there to be sure.

They will all tell you to take the MRD in any case, hehehehe!!!
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1292 on: November 08, 2010, 09:44:23 pm »
I got my Powerbomb header from Thumpertalk  :thumleft:
Nice eh ?

Any DRZ needs : FCR, E header, 2003 or newer cam chain tensioner and it runs like a champ !
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1293 on: November 08, 2010, 11:13:59 pm »
FCR?
E Header?
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1294 on: November 09, 2010, 07:06:44 am »
FCR? The holy grail when it comes to motorcycle carburation, made by Keihin
E Header?Bigger diameter pipe than that of the S model
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1295 on: November 09, 2010, 02:08:53 pm »
thanks for the advice and info...
there is so much, where does an oke even begin! haha

would these mods help, or hinder the resale value?

not sure i want to do anything if it will bring resale down?
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1296 on: November 09, 2010, 02:22:54 pm »
With the FCR carb, your bike is actually worth more to someone who knows a bit about carbs.

To a layman, it will sell itself because of it's awesome throttle response. And the E model comes out with this carb standard, so not really a "racing" upgrade, but an upgrade nonetheless...

And an aftermarket pipe is always a bonus on any bike, in my opinion.
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1297 on: November 09, 2010, 05:50:22 pm »
You are looking for a 2003 or newer E model, then you get all the goodies standard :

Rear subframe
FCR
Roadworthy
Upgraded tensioner
Higher compression
Better camshafts
Fully adjustable front forks

Just don't buy the ones with "I go for no reason" bigends  :pot:

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1298 on: November 09, 2010, 11:12:36 pm »
is the FCR something i can simply buy from a suzuki dealer and fit to my SM?
how much do these things go for?
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1299 on: November 10, 2010, 08:17:06 am »
FCR carb you wont get in SA unless its from a wrecked bike that uses a similar carb...

Possibly from a Keihin agent but they will rip you a nice new sphincter with the price...

I got mine from Thumpertalk (USA) for about R4.5k
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