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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1780 on: January 31, 2012, 08:19:17 am »
By all accounts i have an "E" model, which should mean that my airbox snorkel should just be an easy pull-out

On mine, apparantly a 2006 model, the top is fully moulded and would need to be cut like the SM in order to perform the 3x3 mod.

Do you guys know why this is? Did Suzuki change the local bikes by restricting them?
 

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1781 on: January 31, 2012, 08:39:20 am »
I think the "E" airbox void is already 3x3, no need to do that mod

Measure the void and make sure.
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1782 on: January 31, 2012, 11:13:38 am »
I think the "E" airbox void is already 3x3, no need to do that mod

Measure the void and make sure.

No void (hole) in my bike's airbox. The snorkel is still there and cannot simply be pulled off - the snorkel and the hole must be physically cut out.

This is a bit strange as on older / overseas model "E" bikes the snorkel could be pulled out leaving the 3x3 hole in the top of the airbox.

This seems to suggest that Suzuk restricted the local bikes?

Also Aussie spec bikes was factory jetted at 165 main jet in anticipation of the restriction eing removed. What is the size jet of the RSA specced bike? If less than 165, that could be an ndication that Suzuki intended a restriction?
 

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1783 on: January 31, 2012, 12:05:24 pm »
i got an e ... also looked for this mod etc ..but the hole is on the side not on top (later spec) i think...
i remove sidecover and can fit both my and your hands into airbox well ....
scared of big water crossing though i reckon
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1784 on: January 31, 2012, 12:36:11 pm »
So there is no void except for the snorkel/funnel? That is strange, KD...

Anyways, maybe snap us a piccie.

Im not too familiar with jetting specs anymore, its been a while, you know...

Anyways, dont be scared to cut the bigger hole, it can only do good. BUT...

Dont do it unless you are ready to adjust jetting.

You will obviously want to go up with your main jet when you open up for more air.

Best is to cut the hole and then have it dyno'd.

Thats the safest, anyways...
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1785 on: January 31, 2012, 12:57:37 pm »
i got an e ... also looked for this mod etc ..but the hole is on the side not on top (later spec) i think...
i remove sidecover and can fit both my and your hands into airbox well ....
scared of big water crossing though i reckon

My bike is like that, but i assumed the side cover seals the side of the airbox up and that for the mod to work you still needed to open the top up and remove the snorkel.

So there is no void except for the snorkel/funnel? That is strange, KD...

Anyways, maybe snap us a piccie.

Im not too familiar with jetting specs anymore, its been a while, you know...

Anyways, dont be scared to cut the bigger hole, it can only do good. BUT...

Dont do it unless you are ready to adjust jetting.

You will obviously want to go up with your main jet when you open up for more air.

Best is to cut the hole and then have it dyno'd.

Thats the safest, anyways...

Yes, will only take this to the next stage when i understand how the mod actually works with relation to the airbox and will then only do it after i have obtained the JD jetting kit.

I will then dyno the bike to get it properly dialled in and the fuel / air mix set optimally for the Reef.

Will take some photos of the airbox and post tomorrow.
 

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1786 on: January 31, 2012, 01:04:08 pm »
Side cover is not your air intake. That is just the access "door" to your air filter. Additional air flow is achieved by opening up the top of your air box. (or the sides, but then you also need to cut a hole through your side covers)
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1787 on: January 31, 2012, 01:15:53 pm »
Side cover is not your air intake. That is just the access "door" to your air filter. Additional air flow is achieved by opening up the top of your air box. (or the sides, but then you also need to cut a hole through your side covers)

Ja, that is the way i understand it as well.

The top of the airbox in my case seems to be a solid one piece with the snorkel nearly right at the back. The black box sits more to the front and is removable from the two pins moulded pins.

Now the way i have seen it described/demod on the Net depends on whether you have the "S", the SM" or the "E".

In the case of the first two you gotta cut the snorkel out and while you are at it enlarge the resultant hole to a 3x3 inch size.

On the "E" apparantly, you just pull on the snorkel and the thing comes out leaving the neat 3x3 hole already there - courtesy of Suzuki.

The thing is that i have an "E" without a removable snorkel and i do not understand why this is so. Did Suzuki change the setup of the E for RSA? Seems possible as the E is roadworthy here whilst not in the States (pure enduro). There they have the S as the dual sport version, but that comes with a steel tank and rear subframe amongst other changes.
 

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1788 on: January 31, 2012, 01:51:34 pm »
Thats also exactly how I knew it to be...

Well, apparently not then... hehehe...

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1789 on: January 31, 2012, 02:26:37 pm »
Thats also exactly how I knew it to be...

Well, apparently not then... hehehe...

At least you know there are some hidden ponies in your boney that are just chomping at the bit to be liberated...

 ;D exacatly......i can feel the potential there and i wanna turn it loose


 

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1790 on: January 31, 2012, 03:14:02 pm »
Thats also exactly how I knew it to be...

Well, apparently not then... hehehe...

At least you know there are some hidden ponies in your boney that are just chomping at the bit to be liberated...

 ;D exacatly......i can feel the potential there and i wanna turn it loose



Ask Runner he will know, if you cannot reove the snorkel just cut it out. Hole should not be bigger than 75mm x 75 mm (3 x 3 inches)
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1791 on: January 31, 2012, 03:23:00 pm »
Thats also exactly how I knew it to be...

Well, apparently not then... hehehe...

At least you know there are some hidden ponies in your boney that are just chomping at the bit to be liberated...

 ;D exacatly......i can feel the potential there and i wanna turn it loose

Ask Runner he will know, if you cannot reove the snorkel just cut it out. Hole should not be bigger than 75mm x 75 mm (3 x 3 inches)

Yes, but will first have to order and receive the James Dean jetting kit otherwise the bike may run too lean.

Wanted to take the bike to him this week for some checking/maintenance, but can not organise a lift back to work. Maybe i should have asked him to give me his XR as a loaner >:D

 

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1792 on: January 31, 2012, 03:37:15 pm »
Thats also exactly how I knew it to be...

Well, apparently not then... hehehe...

At least you know there are some hidden ponies in your boney that are just chomping at the bit to be liberated...

 ;D exacatly......i can feel the potential there and i wanna turn it loose

Ask Runner he will know, if you cannot reove the snorkel just cut it out. Hole should not be bigger than 75mm x 75 mm (3 x 3 inches)

Yes, but will first have to order and receive the James Dean jetting kit otherwise the bike may run too lean.

Wanted to take the bike to him this week for some checking/maintenance, but can not organise a lift back to work. Maybe i should have asked him to give me his XR as a loaner >:D


He will have loads of jets and sizes. The JD kit is nice but I would suggest you check what you have now and go one bigger. It's easy and can be done by opening the float bowl cap at the bottom and just screw out the existing MJ.
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1793 on: January 31, 2012, 03:40:20 pm »
An option, but i thought the success of the JD kit lies more in the shape of the needle than only in the jets.

 

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1794 on: January 31, 2012, 03:58:33 pm »
An option, but i thought the success of the JD kit lies more in the shape of the needle than only in the jets.


True, but you can always change the needle later. If you open the box just get a bigger main jet if needed. I have some too if you need, just need to check what you have in the bike right now.
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1795 on: January 31, 2012, 04:01:11 pm »
An option, but i thought the success of the JD kit lies more in the shape of the needle than only in the jets.


True, but you can always change the needle later. If you open the box just get a bigger main jet if needed. I have some too if you need, just need to check what you have in the bike right now.

Will check JD price and delivery time and then weigh the options.

Thanks for all the help and advice, much appreciated :thumleft:
 

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1796 on: January 31, 2012, 04:23:20 pm »
Just remember...

When it comes to Runner, JD means Jack Daniels...

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1797 on: January 31, 2012, 10:16:48 pm »
I've got a standard yellow plastic tank with graphics kit on it, laying in my garage, nothing wrong with it. To be picked up if anyone wants
 

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1798 on: January 31, 2012, 10:27:19 pm »
I've got a standard yellow plastic tank with graphics kit on it, laying in my garage, nothing wrong with it. To be picked up if anyone wants

I'll take it. It can go with the three other DRZ tanks in my garage :) But seriously, i'll take it and pass it on should anyone need it.
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #1799 on: January 31, 2012, 10:38:29 pm »
I've got a standard yellow plastic tank with graphics kit on it, laying in my garage, nothing wrong with it. To be picked up if anyone wants

I'll take it. It can go with the three other DRZ tanks in my garage :) But seriously, i'll take it and pass it on should anyone need it.

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