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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #900 on: May 17, 2010, 09:07:16 pm »
Biggest drawback on the SM is die Mikuni carb, you won't believe how much better a DRZ is with a proper Keihin FCR. It's night and day, much more fun to ride  :thumleft: I won't say the usd forks on the SM is better than the E's conventional forks mainly because it is setup for a motard and not ds riding.
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #901 on: May 18, 2010, 11:12:18 am »
oh yea mine has the Keihin FCR

Biggest drawback on the SM is die Mikuni carb, you won't believe how much better a DRZ is with a proper Keihin FCR. It's night and day, much more fun to ride  :thumleft: I won't say the usd forks on the SM is better than the E's conventional forks mainly because it is setup for a motard and not ds riding.

Im not disagreeing with you but at the same time once they are set to standard (std for the SM) they are befok on a dirt track like the Z7 mx and eunduro tracks
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« Reply #902 on: May 18, 2010, 11:29:37 am »
what're maintenance costs like on the DRZ?

(both the regular ones and the 'ooh-f*k' big end bearing ones)
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #903 on: May 18, 2010, 11:55:58 am »
what're maintenance costs like on the DRZ?

(both the regular ones and the 'ooh-f*k' big end bearing ones)
the minor service (oil & oil filter) is under R200 bucks the way I do it. R50 rand oil filter from Craigs and 1.7L's non synth oil (I do mine every 3500km's just enough time for the oil to start breaking down)

Big one I have no clue as I keep my garage stocked with all fluids and cleaning products as is.

My engine rebuild cost me 18k, that said you could have the same job done for about 15 to 16
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« Reply #904 on: May 18, 2010, 12:28:26 pm »
and that aweful thread that bobnob started about DRZ being rebuilt all the time; is there truth to that is it just the guys who only use one wheel???
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #905 on: May 18, 2010, 12:30:46 pm »
and that aweful thread that bobnob started about DRZ being rebuilt all the time; is there truth to that is it just the guys who only use one wheel???
No clue hey, I bougth it witht he damage already done (stupid mistake by me) since the rebuild I havent had any issues though I also dont punish mine nearly as hard as some others do
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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #906 on: May 18, 2010, 01:05:41 pm »
The problem with the DRz is as follows:

It pulls like hell up to 150km/h, and when you in traffic that causes it to be a breeze to ride because you leave all traffic behind.

But then it was made to do short sprints on enduro trails. Those guys must have done something wrong.

SideTrack replaced his s model barrels with a 450 Athena kit at 68000km when it started to make some noises. But then you know what his DRz looked like, must have been raced.

68k for a small 400 is damn good!
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« Reply #907 on: May 18, 2010, 01:06:57 pm »
The problem with the DRz is as follows:

It pulls like hell up to 150km/h, and when you in traffic that causes it to be a breeze to ride because you leave all traffic behind.

But then it was made to do short sprints on enduro trails. Those guys must have done something wrong.

SideTrack replaced his s model barrels with a 450 Athena kit at 68000km when it started to make some noises. But then you know what his DRz looked like, must have been raced.

68k for a small 400 is damn good!
Agreed.

Its the long distance for hours on end sitting at 140 that will kill it not the spanking it up and down the rev range :D
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« Reply #908 on: May 18, 2010, 01:08:46 pm »
The problem with the DRz is as follows:

It pulls like hell up to 150km/h, and when you in traffic that causes it to be a breeze to ride because you leave all traffic behind.

But then it was made to do short sprints on enduro trails. Those guys must have done something wrong.

SideTrack replaced his s model barrels with a 450 Athena kit at 68000km when it started to make some noises. But then you know what his DRz looked like, must have been raced.

68k for a small 400 is damn good!
Agreed.

Its the long distance for hours on end sitting at 140 that will kill it not the spanking it up and down the rev range :D

So true, it's happy all day long at 110km/h, but higher than that you're looking for troubles.
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« Reply #909 on: May 18, 2010, 01:48:44 pm »
so WD's just treat their DRZ's badly then?  cause there's a number of rebuilds on this site... seems like the bike for me though, i ride like a little girl, just need the flower basket on the front handlebars.
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« Reply #910 on: May 18, 2010, 01:51:19 pm »
i ride like a little girl, just need the flower basket on the front handlebars.

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Re: The DRZ Thread
« Reply #911 on: May 18, 2010, 01:55:25 pm »
so WD's just treat their DRZ's badly then?  cause there's a number of rebuilds on this site... seems like the bike for me though, i ride like a little girl, just need the flower basket on the front handlebars.
If you abuse the fark out of any thing it will bend and break. simple as that.

look at the number of rebuilds and the bikes history vs the amount of bikes around and its easy to see that its the exception rather than the rule
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« Reply #912 on: May 18, 2010, 02:13:26 pm »
If you abuse the fark out of any thing it will bend and break. simple as that.

look at the number of rebuilds and the bikes history vs the amount of bikes around and its easy to see that its the exception rather than the rule

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« Reply #913 on: May 18, 2010, 02:35:41 pm »
I rode the crap out of my DRZ SM. It had an open pipe. 3x3 mod and Dynojet kit. It pulled like a demon and I rode it like one.

I did not do too many long distance rides though and I usually sat at 110km/h over distance (anything more and it becomes hard work hanging on to the bars)

I did look after it VERY WELL and serviced it every 2500km. The choice of oil is most important IMO. See the DRZ oil and rebuild threads on TT for some detailed info.
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« Reply #914 on: May 18, 2010, 02:36:53 pm »
I am of the school of thought that 2500km's is to soon to change as the oil isn't going to break down enough and you will essentially "glaze" your cylinder.

but that's just me
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« Reply #915 on: May 18, 2010, 03:23:32 pm »
You and The_wes should do a ride sometime
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Did you see when I almost rode your bike into that F650GS this weekend? haha. until that moment I was feeling like a real hero :)
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« Reply #916 on: May 18, 2010, 09:57:18 pm »
Opinions are divided. Some have suffered big end failures but no reason why it happens. Take good care of it ride it like a normal human being and it will serve you well, most important check the oil level daily and change it on a regular basis. It's still the most affordable capable ds bike out there  :thumleft:
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« Reply #917 on: May 19, 2010, 07:53:13 am »
Opinions are divided. Some have suffered big end failures but no reason why it happens. Take good care of it ride it like a normal human being and it will serve you well, most important check the oil level daily and change it on a regular basis. It's still the most affordable capable ds bike out there  :thumleft:

well, i don't think it could be cheaper/more reliable than a DR650, but it's lighter and a bit more fun which's why i want one :)
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« Reply #918 on: May 19, 2010, 08:46:34 am »
Opinions are divided. Some have suffered big end failures but no reason why it happens. Take good care of it ride it like a normal human being and it will serve you well, most important check the oil level daily and change it on a regular basis. It's still the most affordable capable ds bike out there  :thumleft:

well, i don't think it could be cheaper/more reliable than a DR650, but it's lighter and a bit more fun which's why i want one :)

Oh it is more than just a BIT more fun. Believe me.
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« Reply #919 on: May 19, 2010, 09:00:27 am »
Oh it is more than just a BIT more fun. Believe me.

I rode Etienne's DRZ on sunday at Atlantis Dunes. the highlight of my day spent riding was the 5 minutes on his bike.
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