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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1060 on: January 14, 2021, 11:06:43 am »
Bareda has run out of petrol.....  What a dumbass

I assume the refuel point is also shown in the roadbook like a waypoint of sorts?
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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1061 on: January 14, 2021, 11:06:58 am »
Barreda's times once past the refuelling point gained him only an advantage of 6 minutes of what should have been 15. Playing back the tracking map, he slows right down a few k's past the refuelling, that's where he lost the 9 minutes. I am guessing he had a brain fart, somehow avoided the refuelling circle on his GPS Irritrack that would have tripped the 15 minutes timer and carried on. Once past there he has realised he's missed it and slows down to sort out what the options are.

I wonder if he then realised he only then had 2 options;
1 - To go back and fill up which would definitely cost him the race.
2 - Carry one and chance his luck. As his 15 minute timer might not have been tripped and it's not (seems) compulsory to re-fuel, he then buys himself effectively 15 minutes.

He really needs to work on his navigation. (says me sitting in my office chair)
I wonder where that gravel road goes? And that, has usually made all the difference. (Apologies to Mr Frost)

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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1062 on: January 14, 2021, 11:10:04 am »

. (says me sitting in my office chair)

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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1063 on: January 14, 2021, 11:18:10 am »

I hope the jacket will make it.  :o

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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1064 on: January 14, 2021, 11:19:41 am »
Just my impression, James is having one of his best days today on what is supposed to be a difficult one, he is much more in touch with the pace?  8)

Indeed! Really flying!

I think the trucks are indeed what slowed him so much the previous days. He started a bit too easy on the previous stages. This time he hung onto the group for quite a distance.
 

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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1065 on: January 14, 2021, 11:26:32 am »
Barreda's times once past the refuelling point gained him only an advantage of 6 minutes of what should have been 15. Playing back the tracking map, he slows right down a few k's past the refuelling, that's where he lost the 9 minutes. I am guessing he had a brain fart, somehow avoided the refuelling circle on his GPS Irritrack that would have tripped the 15 minutes timer and carried on. Once past there he has realised he's missed it and slows down to sort out what the options are.

I wonder if he then realised he only then had 2 options;
1 - To go back and fill up which would definitely cost him the race.
2 - Carry one and chance his luck. As his 15 minute timer might not have been tripped and it's not (seems) compulsory to re-fuel, he then buys himself effectively 15 minutes.

He really needs to work on his navigation. (says me sitting in my office chair)

They've just stopped at another fuel stop, maybe it was his strategy all along to skip the first fuel stop and try make the second.

If he'd pulled it off, he'd have scored so many high 5's.

Motosport, hero to zero so often.

I really do hope it was the case and not a navigation error
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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1066 on: January 14, 2021, 11:37:02 am »
Barreda's times once past the refuelling point gained him only an advantage of 6 minutes of what should have been 15. Playing back the tracking map, he slows right down a few k's past the refuelling, that's where he lost the 9 minutes. I am guessing he had a brain fart, somehow avoided the refuelling circle on his GPS Irritrack that would have tripped the 15 minutes timer and carried on. Once past there he has realised he's missed it and slows down to sort out what the options are.

I wonder if he then realised he only then had 2 options;
1 - To go back and fill up which would definitely cost him the race.
2 - Carry one and chance his luck. As his 15 minute timer might not have been tripped and it's not (seems) compulsory to re-fuel, he then buys himself effectively 15 minutes.

He really needs to work on his navigation. (says me sitting in my office chair)

They've just stopped at another fuel stop, maybe it was his strategy all along to skip the first fuel stop and try make the second.

If he'd pulled it off, he'd have scored so many high 5's.

Motosport, hero to zero so often.

I really do hope it was the case and not a navigation error

Except you have to stop at the WPCP according to rules. Team would not have entertained that gamble imo.
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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1067 on: January 14, 2021, 11:44:15 am »
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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1068 on: January 14, 2021, 11:52:40 am »
Ross Branch-- Well be back in 2022

https://fb.watch/2-O_0chzj5/

At 2:50 both Branch's and Toby's bikes next to each other on the bakkie...  :'(
 
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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1069 on: January 14, 2021, 11:55:51 am »
Barreda's times once past the refuelling point gained him only an advantage of 6 minutes of what should have been 15. Playing back the tracking map, he slows right down a few k's past the refuelling, that's where he lost the 9 minutes. I am guessing he had a brain fart, somehow avoided the refuelling circle on his GPS Irritrack that would have tripped the 15 minutes timer and carried on. Once past there he has realised he's missed it and slows down to sort out what the options are.

I wonder if he then realised he only then had 2 options;
1 - To go back and fill up which would definitely cost him the race.
2 - Carry one and chance his luck. As his 15 minute timer might not have been tripped and it's not (seems) compulsory to re-fuel, he then buys himself effectively 15 minutes.

He really needs to work on his navigation. (says me sitting in my office chair)

They've just stopped at another fuel stop, maybe it was his strategy all along to skip the first fuel stop and try make the second.

If he'd pulled it off, he'd have scored so many high 5's.

Motosport, hero to zero so often.

I really do hope it was the case and not a navigation error

Except you have to stop at the WPCP according to rules. Team would not have entertained that gamble imo.

There's a vey short snapchat clip of him taking off from that waypoint. So it could well be he never entered the fuelling circle and went directly to the CPWP to carry on. It's not compulsory to re-fuel.

He ran dry 31km from the next fuel stop.

If it was planned, it was a bold one. If he'd slowed just a fraction all the way through, he could have stretched out his consumption and very likely have made it.
I wonder where that gravel road goes? And that, has usually made all the difference. (Apologies to Mr Frost)

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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1070 on: January 14, 2021, 11:59:48 am »
Ja not sure about the authenticity of that snapchat clip but ja they do not have to refuel but they have to stop and it is a 15m decontrol as far as I know.
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« Reply #1071 on: January 14, 2021, 12:12:47 pm »
Ja not sure about the authenticity of that snapchat clip but ja they do not have to refuel but they have to stop and it is a 15m decontrol as far as I know.

Turns out the fuel stop is not a control or waypoint....

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« Reply #1072 on: January 14, 2021, 12:14:35 pm »
James is doing so well today, he can put in as a feather in his cap that he even beat Barreda! :biggrin:
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« Reply #1073 on: January 14, 2021, 12:16:39 pm »
James is doing so well today, he can put in as a feather in his cap that he even beat Barreda! :biggrin:

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« Reply #1074 on: January 14, 2021, 12:18:19 pm »
13:07 Sunderland and Quintanilla still lead
After 362 km, a KTM and a Husqvarna lead the stage, ridden respectively by Super Sam Sunderland and Pablo Quintanilla, with 137 separating the two riders. Kevin Benavides is still in third, trailing by 40, while rookie Daniel Sanders is 603 behind.
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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1075 on: January 14, 2021, 12:18:51 pm »
Sam and Pablo is a mere 1.5 min apart, if Sam can come in safe today and give that 1.5min up for Pablo to open up tomorrow then he has done really well!

If he wins today and open tomorrow, then a lot of the gain from today will be lost on the last stage.
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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1076 on: January 14, 2021, 12:19:02 pm »
Skyler Howes
https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-racing/skyler-howes-talks-about-leading-dakar-rally/

I really thought the best find in Dakar this year is KTM's Sanders but this laid back American must the equal if not better- saw some of  u tube stuff before 21 Dakar started including doing the Sonoro rally with Brabec last year- wow- still early days but that sure he will be lapped up quickly by the big teams- Thtttt boys in blue...
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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1077 on: January 14, 2021, 12:20:49 pm »
Ja not sure about the authenticity of that snapchat clip but ja they do not have to refuel but they have to stop and it is a 15m decontrol as far as I know.

Turns out the fuel stop is not a control or waypoint....


Hmm - well the thot plickens then  :o   Now as speculated, surely if JBB intended to try and pull this move it would have been run past the team management and also offered to the other riders? Maybe he should have pushed the bike 30km  :imaposer:
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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1078 on: January 14, 2021, 12:30:00 pm »
Skyler Howes
https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-racing/skyler-howes-talks-about-leading-dakar-rally/

I really thought the best find in Dakar this year is KTM's Sanders but this laid back American must the equal if not better- saw some of  u tube stuff before 21 Dakar started including doing the Sonoro rally with Brabec last year- wow- still early days but that sure he will be lapped up quickly by the big teams- Thtttt boys in blue...

Redbull TV also has a session on him, made mention of how he and Rickey used to race each other.

He is doing extremely well, a lot of contenders for TP's spot...
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Re: DAKAR 2021
« Reply #1079 on: January 14, 2021, 12:33:13 pm »
Ja not sure about the authenticity of that snapchat clip but ja they do not have to refuel but they have to stop and it is a 15m decontrol as far as I know.

Turns out the fuel stop is not a control or waypoint....


Hmm - well the thot plickens then  :o   Now as speculated, surely if JBB intended to try and pull this move it would have been run past the team management and also offered to the other riders? Maybe he should have pushed the bike 30km  :imaposer:


Maybe a keyboard jockey comment, but it almost seems as if JBB finds a way not to finish the race each year?  :patch:
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