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Offline DavidMorrisXp

John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« on: October 04, 2020, 07:11:23 am »
John Carr who was with Donford’s for many years and sold many a BMW bike has moved on.

He appears to have appeared at KTM Cape Town.

John is very well liked amongst the BMW rider community for his character and the time and effort he put into training and club rides.

I will be interested to see how many BMW riders will move over to KTM bikes as John has made some complimentary remarks on Facebook about the brand
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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2020, 07:40:59 am »
I thought he moved to GS Bike Traders?
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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2020, 07:46:33 am »
Yes, he moved to GS Traders, and was then snapped up by Ashley/KTM Cape Town...


Good luck, aTRUE Gentleman, I think he will do great things for the KTM Brand/riding experiences, etc.


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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2020, 12:59:08 pm »
Like Chris said, a true gentlemen, not only when he sold you a bike, also when you ASSISTED that thing back with problems.

I first met John at Trefco BMW, in the 80's, and what a wonderful person.

Only snag is, where BMW were structured and rigged to handle comebacks, recalls and ASSIST cases, KTM are far less so, so this could be a test for the man's character. :pot:
 

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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2020, 01:05:36 pm »
Like Chris said, a true gentlemen, not only when he sold you a bike, also when you ASSISTED that thing back with problems.

I first met John at Trefco BMW, in the 80's, and what a wonderful person.

Only snag is, where BMW were structured and rigged to handle comebacks, recalls and ASSIST cases, KTM are far less so, so this could be a test for the man's character. :pot:

Quite interesting

I think BMW are changing too, I am not sure if you still get a loaner while your bike is in for a service
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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2020, 02:19:13 pm »
Like Chris said, a true gentlemen, not only when he sold you a bike, also when you ASSISTED that thing back with problems.

I first met John at Trefco BMW, in the 80's, and what a wonderful person.

Only snag is, where BMW were structured and rigged to handle comebacks, recalls and ASSIST cases, KTM are far less so, so this could be a test for the man's character. :pot:

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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2020, 02:33:27 pm »
He is not the only one moving to the dark side, I understand one of the diehard BMW countrytrax instructors bought 2 new KTM's. 790R and a 500.  :thumleft:
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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2020, 03:14:36 pm »
He is not the only one moving to the dark side, I understand one of the diehard BMW countrytrax instructors bought 2 new KTM's. 790R and a 500.  :thumleft:

I sold 990’s to two Country Trax instructors when I was at KTM , so nothing new
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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2020, 04:37:14 pm »
He is not the only one moving to the dark side, I understand one of the diehard BMW countrytrax instructors bought 2 new KTM's. 790R and a 500.  :thumleft:

Jeepers, but they make a lot of money out of teaching Beemer riders to stand. :eek7:
 

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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2020, 05:14:18 pm »
Oom John is "smooth `n fast", maar hy bly nederig en is altyd reg vir n geselsie.
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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2020, 06:22:07 pm »
Oom John is "smooth `n fast", maar hy bly nederig en is altyd reg vir n geselsie.
Laat my baie dink aan oom Dan.
Dit is BMW se grootste verlies, na Jo Rust. :patch:

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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2020, 04:40:07 pm »
John is just happy if you ride a bike - any brand. Good oke.  :thumleft:
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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2020, 11:39:46 pm »
Ek het vir John 14 jaar gelede ontmoet by Donford. Ek was by 'n hele paar brands op soek na 'n fiets. Hy was die enigste verkoopsman wat nie die ander brands afgekraak of met BMW vergelyk het nie. Sy woorde oor 'n ander bike is gewoonlik een van die volgende: a very nice bike, nothing wrong it, that thing is fast, etc   Hy het die feite gegee en ek het daarvan gehou en daarom het ek 'n BMW gekoop.  Ek hoop KTM behandel die "ou Toppie" goed en pas hom mooi op en geniet die atmosfeer wat sy teenwoordigheid skep.  John gaan op Stellenbosch gemis word.   
 

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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2020, 08:42:21 am »
Ek het met hom gesels Maandag.  Daai man kan nie op hou smile oor die 1290 wat hy die naweek gery het nie :ricky:

Volgens hom is BMW glad nie meer wat dit was jare terug nie en hulle het al die manne verloor met die kennis.  Elke paar maande is daar 'n nuwe gesig of verkoopsman en so verloor jy kliente ook want hulle kannie daai verhouding opbou nie.

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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2020, 09:10:49 am »
Ek stem saam met alles wat almal hier bo genoem het, John is altyd vriendelik en 'n bok vir sports. Hy is 'n regte legende in die motorfiets bedryf.

Alle sterkte vir jou nuwe "(ad)venture" John  :thumleft:
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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2020, 09:49:47 am »
Ek het John vir die eerste keer in 2001 by Trefco ontmoet. Het nooit iets by hom gekoop, maar wel n slag of wat my Dakar daar laat diens.
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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2020, 10:15:17 am »
He is not the only one moving to the dark side, I understand one of the diehard BMW countrytrax instructors bought 2 new KTM's. 790R and a 500.  :thumleft:

Jeepers, but they make a lot of money out of teaching Beemer riders to stand. :eek7:

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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2020, 11:34:33 am »
Yes, he moved to GS Traders, and was then snapped up by Ashley/KTM Cape Town...


Good luck, aTRUE Gentleman, I think he will do great things for the KTM Brand/riding experiences, etc.


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What a nce thing to say about a person :thumleft:
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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2020, 12:03:26 pm »
Yes, he moved to GS Traders, and was then snapped up by Ashley/KTM Cape Town...


Good luck, aTRUE Gentleman, I think he will do great things for the KTM Brand/riding experiences, etc.


A very humble, and genuine man, who knows how to ring the neck of a bike through a mountain pass, or race track, yet you would never know it to speak to him
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What a nce thing to say about a person :thumleft:

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Re: John Carr ex Donford BMW goes to the dark side?
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2020, 02:26:22 pm »
Hey, Gerrard, how can John not have offended customers, he was selling BMW's....... :eek7:

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