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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2020, 11:57:49 am »
KTM need the "marketing award of the year"!!
Now that the 890 is out and the 790 is not worth a cent............ :pot:
and all and everyone moans about it...........they will still sell like hot-cakes because they have got "some people" so well sussed-out :patch: that they know the orders will pour in .........
What a marketing hit! :peepwall: :ricky:
The 790 was the shit, now that the 890 is out I'm hearing about suspension that can't be tuned, poor low down torque and a host of other issues the 890 will cure  :pot:
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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2020, 12:08:14 pm »
So, the best year to buy a 790 is 2021 coz by then all teething problems are sorted.
This will be the same year that the 790 is no more and the 890 is here with it's own teething problems.
Leaving us with 2022 being the best year to buy a new KTM.
Which will still be before you can get your hands on a T7.
So, all is not lost, KTM.  :thumleft:


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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2020, 12:10:21 pm »
Gone are the "Dark side" days...

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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2020, 12:11:28 pm »
KTM need the "marketing award of the year"!!
Now that the 890 is out and the 790 is not worth a cent............ :pot:
and all and everyone moans about it...........they will still sell like hot-cakes because they have got "some people" so well sussed-out :patch: that they know the orders will pour in .........
What a marketing hit! :peepwall: :ricky:
The 790 was the shit, now that the 890 is out I'm hearing about suspension that can't be tuned, poor low down torque and a host of other issues the 890 will cure  :pot:

No worries,  T7 will come and cure the 790 and 890 problems.
With all of its majestic 72 hp and 200kg.
I still think they took the 660 Tenere single and added a fake cyclinder, and added some more weight.
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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2020, 12:12:41 pm »
Another whale!  >:(

Why can't they build something like the PR7?! A light adventure bike for remote touring..
 

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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2020, 12:21:32 pm »
Kronreif Trunkenjunk Mattigoffen will release the 890, then Yamaha will release T9, they already have the engine. 
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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2020, 12:27:10 pm »
Yamaha will release T9, they already have the engine.

Good news, that'll be during mid 2024 then, for SA it'll be eo 2025  :thumleft:
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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2020, 12:29:27 pm »
KTM need the "marketing award of the year"!!
Now that the 890 is out and the 790 is not worth a cent............ :pot:
and all and everyone moans about it...........they will still sell like hot-cakes because they have got "some people" so well sussed-out :patch: that they know the orders will pour in .........
What a marketing hit! :peepwall: :ricky:
The 790 was the shit, now that the 890 is out I'm hearing about suspension that can't be tuned, poor low down torque and a host of other issues the 890 will cure  :pot:

No worries,  T7 will come and cure the 790 and 890 problems.
With all of its majestic 72 hp and 200kg.
I still think they took the 660 Tenere single and added a fake cyclinder, and added some more weight.
The T7 does not have to cure anything it is what is is and that is why it will do well. You can ride it for many years and not give a damn about if they newer model has more riding modes or better suspension because there wont be one  :lol8: Solid 8 years of the same model just with bold new graphics. Only thing that will force Yamaha's hand is if there is some new ridiculous Euro 10 or whatever emission standard being forced on manufacturers again.
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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2020, 12:30:04 pm »
Yamaha will release T9, they already have the engine.

Good news, that'll be during mid 2024 then, for SA it'll be eo 2025  :thumleft:

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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2020, 12:35:59 pm »
Question is, will Yamaha repeat  what they did with the 700?
Take a motor from a roadbike with a hooligan nature, tune it flat an sell it as a back to basics adv bike with no electronics?
KTM is indeed in big trouble, might as well close the doors right now. :peepwall:
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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #50 on: October 09, 2020, 12:51:10 pm »
Optimism on this fine Friday. I like it

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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2020, 12:57:32 pm »
Question is, will Yamaha repeat  what they did with the 700?
Take a motor from a roadbike with a hooligan nature, tune it flat an sell it as a back to basics adv bike with no electronics?
KTM is indeed in big trouble, might as well close the doors right now. :peepwall:
No need to drag the T7 into this thread as it's so good it needs no heavier flywheel or stronger frame
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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2020, 12:58:45 pm »
Question is, will Yamaha repeat  what they did with the 700?
Take a motor from a roadbike with a hooligan nature, tune it flat an sell it as a back to basics adv bike with no electronics?
KTM is indeed in big trouble, might as well close the doors right now. :peepwall:
No need to drag the T7 into this thread as it's so good it needs no heavier flywheel or stronger frame

No, the real reason it cant get dragged into this thread, is because no one can find one to drag in...
 

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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #53 on: October 09, 2020, 01:16:21 pm »
Question is, will Yamaha repeat  what they did with the 700?
Take a motor from a roadbike with a hooligan nature, tune it flat an sell it as a back to basics adv bike with no electronics?
KTM is indeed in big trouble, might as well close the doors right now. :peepwall:
No need to drag the T7 into this thread as it's so good it needs no heavier flywheel or stronger frame

No, the real reason it cant get dragged into this thread, is because no one can find one to drag in...
Luckily it has it's own banter thread, looking forward to read more on the 890  :thumleft:
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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #54 on: October 09, 2020, 01:23:21 pm »
Kronreif Trunkenjunk Mattigoffen will release the 890, then Yamaha will release T9, they already have the engine.

Yamaha already had the T7 motor as well.... 4 years ago....
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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #55 on: October 09, 2020, 01:23:28 pm »
Just think of the 890 as an upgraded 790.

It's the same as what they did with the 1190.  Release a very good bike.  Listen to some of the feedback from customers (in that case, excess heat, some might want something cheaper/simpler, suspension too soft.)  bring out 1090/1290 with stronger rims, firmer suspension and more heat shields.

 

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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #56 on: October 09, 2020, 01:49:05 pm »
it needs no ..... stronger frame

Neither does the 890, you knew?
Lighter SUBframe plus an aluminium steering stem instead of the 790's heavier steel, that's all  ;)

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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #57 on: October 09, 2020, 03:20:42 pm »
All this yada yada about forks and shocks makes me wonder who are the really good riders? The men and the boys? Is it the ones who can't do without the biggest stanchions, the longest travel, the most progressive springs, the 'dampingest' damping, the most adjustment settings? Who dismiss yesterday's greatest as today's rubbish? :deal:



Or the ones who just ride.....?

You also shouldn't assume that people who want good suspension just want it for bragging rights.

3 mins and 25 seconds into this video I hit a (deceptively rough) rock plate faster than a lot of people will even ride on dirt. Inferior suspension would've meant a hospital visit.

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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #58 on: October 09, 2020, 03:56:31 pm »
So Dwerg, are you bragging that you go faster than most people on dirt? :pot: :pot:

I agree, I got the 701 because I, at the time, wanted to go faster safely, than my XT could take me over rough terrain.

Of course, if you are not going to ride fast, rop suspension is a waste.  Unless you're after the bragging rights, of course. :biggrin:
 

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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #59 on: October 09, 2020, 04:59:05 pm »
All this yada yada about forks and shocks makes me wonder who are the really good riders? The men and the boys? Is it the ones who can't do without the biggest stanchions, the longest travel, the most progressive springs, the 'dampingest' damping, the most adjustment settings? Who dismiss yesterday's greatest as today's rubbish? :deal:



Or the ones who just ride.....?

You also shouldn't assume that people who want good suspension just want it for bragging rights.

3 mins and 25 seconds into this video I hit a (deceptively rough) rock plate faster than a lot of people will even ride on dirt. Inferior suspension would've meant a hospital visit.






I'll admit it. It was a hasty post, written with a fair dash of sour grapes that I can't afford top of the range suspension, nor would I need it. Rigid suspension and just a sprung saddle would do for me!  :-\
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