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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2020, 06:46:11 pm »
All this yada yada about forks and shocks makes me wonder who are the really good riders? The men and the boys? Is it the ones who can't do without the biggest stanchions, the longest travel, the most progressive springs, the 'dampingest' damping, the most adjustment settings? Who dismiss yesterday's greatest as today's rubbish? :deal:



Or the ones who just ride.....?

You also shouldn't assume that people who want good suspension just want it for bragging rights.

3 mins and 25 seconds into this video I hit a (deceptively rough) rock plate faster than a lot of people will even ride on dirt. Inferior suspension would've meant a hospital visit.


Ek soek nog die klippe op die video  :peepwall:

Nee ek hoor jou, al my ribbes sleg gekneus met 660 suspensie  :o
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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #61 on: October 09, 2020, 10:24:13 pm »
Just think of the 890 as an upgraded 790.

It's the same as what they did with the 1190.  Release a very good bike.  Listen to some of the feedback from customers (in that case, excess heat, some might want something cheaper/simpler, suspension too soft.)  bring out 1090/1290 with stronger rims, firmer suspension and more heat shields.


Yet, none of those models were seen as an upgrade to the 990.

Given the current rate of weight and power increase from 790 to 890, the new 990 will be in the same weight and power ballpark as the 2010 990R

Only, it will look like a soggy turd.
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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #62 on: October 09, 2020, 10:26:57 pm »
All this yada yada about forks and shocks makes me wonder who are the really good riders? The men and the boys? Is it the ones who can't do without the biggest stanchions, the longest travel, the most progressive springs, the 'dampingest' damping, the most adjustment settings? Who dismiss yesterday's greatest as today's rubbish? :deal:



Or the ones who just ride.....?

You also shouldn't assume that people who want good suspension just want it for bragging rights.

3 mins and 25 seconds into this video I hit a (deceptively rough) rock plate faster than a lot of people will even ride on dirt. Inferior suspension would've meant a hospital visit.


Ek soek nog die klippe op die video  :peepwall:

Nee ek hoor jou, al my ribbes sleg gekneus met 660 suspensie  :o

Jy ken daai klip plaat. Ek het hom al op een van jou reports ook gesien. Kap hom teen 100 plus op iets wat suspensie het nie en dit gaan seer maak
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« Reply #63 on: October 09, 2020, 10:32:01 pm »
So Dwerg, are you bragging that you go faster than most people on dirt? :pot: :pot:

I agree, I got the 701 because I, at the time, wanted to go faster safely, than my XT could take me over rough terrain.

Of course, if you are not going to ride fast, rop suspension is a waste.  Unless you're after the bragging rights, of course. :biggrin:
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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #64 on: October 09, 2020, 10:36:00 pm »
Wow, the shit is getting deep in here, be right back, I must don my waders  :lol8:

Lots of Katoom Kool-Aid drinkers on this thread!! 
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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #65 on: October 09, 2020, 10:49:48 pm »
All this yada yada about forks and shocks makes me wonder who are the really good riders? The men and the boys? Is it the ones who can't do without the biggest stanchions, the longest travel, the most progressive springs, the 'dampingest' damping, the most adjustment settings? Who dismiss yesterday's greatest as today's rubbish? :deal:



Or the ones who just ride.....?

You also shouldn't assume that people who want good suspension just want it for bragging rights.

3 mins and 25 seconds into this video I hit a (deceptively rough) rock plate faster than a lot of people will even ride on dirt. Inferior suspension would've meant a hospital visit.


I get what you are trying to say: good suspension saves lives. And I agree.

It must be the camera angle, but I doubt that one needs a ktm to survive travelling at those speeds.
What speed were you cruising at when you hit those rocky plates?

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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #66 on: October 09, 2020, 11:00:11 pm »
All this yada yada about forks and shocks makes me wonder who are the really good riders? The men and the boys? Is it the ones who can't do without the biggest stanchions, the longest travel, the most progressive springs, the 'dampingest' damping, the most adjustment settings? Who dismiss yesterday's greatest as today's rubbish? :deal:



Or the ones who just ride.....?

You also shouldn't assume that people who want good suspension just want it for bragging rights.

3 mins and 25 seconds into this video I hit a (deceptively rough) rock plate faster than a lot of people will even ride on dirt. Inferior suspension would've meant a hospital visit.


I get what you are trying to say: good suspension saves lives. And I agree.

It must be the camera angle, but I doubt that one needs a ktm to survive travelling at those speeds.
What speed were you cruising at when you hit those rocky plates?

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You should know how cameras flatten stuff out. I can tell you that out of all the stuff I hit unexpectedly hard, that was one of the ones where I was sure it was going to end badly. Speed, not sure but probabbly 90-100
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« Reply #67 on: October 10, 2020, 05:49:48 am »
All this yada yada about forks and shocks makes me wonder who are the really good riders? The men and the boys? Is it the ones who can't do without the biggest stanchions, the longest travel, the most progressive springs, the 'dampingest' damping, the most adjustment settings? Who dismiss yesterday's greatest as today's rubbish? :deal:



Or the ones who just ride.....?

You also shouldn't assume that people who want good suspension just want it for bragging rights.

3 mins and 25 seconds into this video I hit a (deceptively rough) rock plate faster than a lot of people will even ride on dirt. Inferior suspension would've meant a hospital visit.


I get what you are trying to say: good suspension saves lives. And I agree.

It must be the camera angle, but I doubt that one needs a ktm to survive travelling at those speeds.
What speed were you cruising at when you hit those rocky plates?

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Other one doesn’t look as fast but I won’t do these speeds on a road like this with inferior suspension

Mind you, after too many broken bones, I won’t be doing that kind of speed any time soon


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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #68 on: October 10, 2020, 09:30:39 am »
Dude no amount of suspension will save you in those conditions.

Just saying, use it don't use it

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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #69 on: October 10, 2020, 07:36:51 pm »
Jeez......how many models were there after the last 990???

1190
1050
1090
1290
??

Then the idea is to build a lighter/smaller adv bike and they build the 790.Now they go bigger again....?????

Mark my words.....2023 we can expect a 20 year anniversary special limited edition 950/990 which they will produce for the next 10 years😂
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Re: KTM 890 Adventure R and Adventure R Rally
« Reply #70 on: October 12, 2020, 08:49:45 am »


Then the idea is to build a lighter/smaller adv bike and they build the 790.Now they go bigger again....?????


No, it IS a 790 with 10more Hp.    Just like the 1090 was a slightly stripped down 1190.  There is no real difference. You could buy the 890 plastics and fit them all perfectly on a 790.  You could buy all the 1090 bits and stick them on a 1190.  Even most of the things on the 1290 are the same as the 1190, if you remove the flared tank plastics the actual tank is almost identical to the 1190, just a few little mounting and venting differences.