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1 nobody is forcing you to buy one.
2 the 890 IS a 790 with more bore/stroke. So there’s none of this “deflecting attention” nonsense, it’s 95% the same bike.

3 seems like the useless dealers and techs in the USA striking again. Took them ages to figure out the 1x90s as well. I guess we shouldn’t be surprised when the smallest unit of measure is the width of a thumb and Carbs are still new technology in the states. Takes them a while to figure out modern euro tech.  :lol8:

I know quite a few guys who beat on their 790s with no ill effects.
 

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1 nobody is forcing you to buy one.
2 the 890 IS a 790 with more bore/stroke. So there’s none of this “deflecting attention” nonsense, it’s 95% the same bike.

3 seems like the useless dealers and techs in the USA striking again. Took them ages to figure out the 1x90s as well. I guess we shouldn’t be surprised when the smallest unit of measure is the width of a thumb and Carbs are still new technology in the states. Takes them a while to figure out modern euro tech.  :lol8:

I know quite a few guys who beat on their 790s with no ill effects.

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I was actually pretty close to buying one, based mostly on Nonekings' reports and feedback. I'm not even sure if I'm glad I didn't because I'm enjoying my 500 immensely, a seriously well made bike. Maybe different design teams? Amazing how one product can be so good, and another so problematic. But then, BMW... No wait, apart from the stanchion recall, which was a serious design fail, my GSA is still my pride and joy.

Hope these issues do not pop up on the 890?
 

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I was actually pretty close to buying one, based mostly on Nonekings' reports and feedback. I'm not even sure if I'm glad I didn't because I'm enjoying my 500 immensely, a seriously well made bike. Maybe different design teams? Amazing how one product can be so good, and another so problematic. But then, BMW... No wait, apart from the stanchion recall, which was a serious design fail, my GSA is still my pride and joy.

Hope these issues do not pop up on the 890?

If the 890 is simply a restroked/bored 790, it is going to inherit these exact issues.
 

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Re: KTM 790 - WARNING - THE MOST UNRELIABLE MOTORCYCLE TO EVER LEAVE AUSTRIA
« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2020, 07:54:20 pm »
I was actually pretty close to buying one, based mostly on Nonekings' reports and feedback. I'm not even sure if I'm glad I didn't because I'm enjoying my 500 immensely, a seriously well made bike. Maybe different design teams? Amazing how one product can be so good, and another so problematic. But then, BMW... No wait, apart from the stanchion recall, which was a serious design fail, my GSA is still my pride and joy.

Hope these issues do not pop up on the 890?
500 is a total different ballgame.
It's the result of decades of development with the original design baught from husaberg.

As I've mentioned somewhere else, ktm was still sand casting motors until 2010

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I was actually pretty close to buying one, based mostly on Nonekings' reports and feedback. I'm not even sure if I'm glad I didn't because I'm enjoying my 500 immensely, a seriously well made bike. Maybe different design teams? Amazing how one product can be so good, and another so problematic. But then, BMW... No wait, apart from the stanchion recall, which was a serious design fail, my GSA is still my pride and joy.

Hope these issues do not pop up on the 890?

KTM did not really market consumer Adv bikes before 2003, the focus was always on the competition type bikes.
Then some motards, and eventually large capacity, high performance road bikes.

And always hands-on, higher maintenance products, using top quality components.
The type of product that doesn't suffer fools, neither the way they use them.

Many guys cooked rear brakes on 950/990s, to the point they got a bad reputation for that. Some may have been faulty, but in the majority of cases the rider was resting his foot on the brake pedal.

In the above diatribe from Big Oil, the one rider admits he possibly misused the clutch (most likely because he is incapable of riding properly and has a lack of mechanical sympathy).
Anybody who has ridden tight, single track paths with friends who have 1150/1200 GSs will know what a burnt clutch on those beasts smells like.......no thanks, not for me. Not if I want to do that, anyway.
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Fuck off.

Exactly what I was trying to say  :thumleft:
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He said it more eloquently.

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He said it more eloquently.

And Schadenfreude from the usual Suspects.

No "schadenfreude" for KYM's 790 being a bit of a floppy, that only comes in when you buy one...... :pot:
 

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He said it more eloquently.

And Schadenfreude from the usual Suspects.

No "schadenfreude" for KYM's 790 being a bit of a floppy, that only comes in when you buy one...... :pot:
Not on KTM, straight like an Arrow.  :thumleft: :laughing4:
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He said it more eloquently.

And Schadenfreude from the usual Suspects.

No "schadenfreude" for KYM's 790 being a bit of a floppy, that only comes in when you buy one...... :pot:
Not on KTM, straight like an Arrow.  :thumleft: :laughing4:


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Kom ry net een dag met daai stuk BMW  saam my groepie en kyk wat is fucked as ons aan die ander kant uitkom. En wie wil n "boring as fuck" ding vir derduisende kilometers ry. Gelukkig breek die KTM gereeld en dan kan ek n nuwe een koop. Werk so bietjie harder dan kan jy dit ook bekostig.

Somebody can translate for our US friend.
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Kom ry net een dag met daai stuk BMW  saam my groepie en kyk wat is fucked as ons aan die ander kant uitkom. En wie wil n "boring as fuck" ding vir derduisende kilometers ry. Gelukkig breek die KTM gereeld en dan kan ek n nuwe een koop. Werk so bietjie harder dan kan jy dit ook bekostig.

Somebody can translate for our US friend.
You explained it well on #46 :biggrin:
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Kom ry net een dag met daai stuk BMW  saam my groepie en kyk wat is fucked as ons aan die ander kant uitkom. En wie wil n "boring as fuck" ding vir derduisende kilometers ry. Gelukkig breek die KTM gereeld en dan kan ek n nuwe een koop. Werk so bietjie harder dan kan jy dit ook bekostig.

Somebody can translate for our US friend.

I completely agree that BMW's are no good! O0
 

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Kom ry net een dag met daai stuk BMW  saam my groepie en kyk wat is fucked as ons aan die ander kant uitkom. En wie wil n "boring as fuck" ding vir derduisende kilometers ry. Gelukkig breek die KTM gereeld en dan kan ek n nuwe een koop. Werk so bietjie harder dan kan jy dit ook bekostig.

Somebody can translate for our US friend.
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I love the 790, Noneking has been on some pretty extreme terrain and rides with me and it is yet to breakdown. I know he has had issues, but any bike operating in these conditions will have issues. My 12 year old 990 has issues now and again and I expect it to!  I am surprised it still runs as god as it does considering what i put it through. My only issue with the 790 is the electronics. How do you fix those in field without a diagnostic when they kak?
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I was actually pretty close to buying one, based mostly on Nonekings' reports and feedback. I'm not even sure if I'm glad I didn't because I'm enjoying my 500 immensely, a seriously well made bike. Maybe different design teams? Amazing how one product can be so good, and another so problematic. But then, BMW... No wait, apart from the stanchion recall, which was a serious design fail, my GSA is still my pride and joy.

Hope these issues do not pop up on the 890?

With the exception of TPi and suspension components, in my opinion, the dirt bikes from the orange brigade are damn good motorcycles.

From what I've observed over the years, the Japanese will not release a bike until most, if not all, flaws have been rectified. 

Not the case with KTM, where it seems they release products much too early, charge a premium price for the buyers to be their beta testers.

I don't like that.  I don't finance motorbikes, I lay down cash and I want a product that works......reliably.   I don't think that's too much to ask.
Prepare yourself for four more years 😎
 
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