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Offline biela

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My SA Experience
« on: November 12, 2020, 04:41:17 pm »
Hi all

I just though i might share my story to prevent anyone form getting hurt in future.

so yesterday on the 11th of November 2020 I had a appointment at 3Pm
I was selling my pc on facebook( bit high end machine) so decide to drop it off at the buyer at which was just up the road in midrand as we have been in telephonic and text communication and he advised this his absa manager just dropped a massive report on him.
I was selling it for a deposit on a spotless 2017 KX450.
Driving to the complex was all jolly and peaceful.
I met the buyer at the gate and he let me into the complex.

I unloaded the pc and was about to help him carry it up to his flat.
as i turn arround i was stairing straight into the barrel of a load 9mm pistol and was forced to what assumed was his appartment(Which was probably just a show room appartment now that i think about it).
I was force to lay facedown on the sofa and told to coperate. they then took everything i had on me my brand new s20 wallet car key everything.
I was then taken to one of the rooms.
as i entered the room i realized that this was no ordinary robbery. everything was layed out to kleen up and cover up after my murder.
it was then that it hit me like a truck i was about to die.
they then asked a series of question including if i had an apppointment after this to which i had to tell them.
One of them went out of the room and came back and said the words that will haunt me forever.
He said "If i did not have that appointment hethe plan was to keep me hostage till late and kill me."
He did say a whole lot of other things. which is not going to be mentioned.
By the grace o the lord I was spared and not harmed.
I was then put in my car and followed until my appointment.
I was forced to endure and keep my pose in the appointment as i was told that they work for a syndicate and will kill me and my whole family if i dont.
after which i drove like a mad person to get to a phone and en sure that my wife and kids are safe.
then i drove like a mad person on the highway to ensure i get to them and the inform the relivant people of the situation.

I am wrinting this to you in the hopes that you dont make the same mistakes as i did as it nearly cost me everything.

if i can leave you with a few things its the following.

1. Never meet a person at their or your house for a sale.
2. always meet in a public place with lots of people like a mall
3. spend time with your loved ones. Life can end in a single moment dont wast it.
4. keep your private life private.
5. secure your social media and make it as private as possible.
6. treat people with kindness as you never know what they are dealing with.
7. trust no one


I sincerely hope this will help someone to not end up like me or worse.

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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2020, 05:01:03 pm »
WTF! Jeepers Biela, glad you survived the ordeal, well done on keeping your cool. What are you going to do now, report it?
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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2020, 05:05:19 pm »
Fark!  :o This is superhectic! Glad you are still with us.
 

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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2020, 05:14:21 pm »
Ai biela jammer om te hoor man. Baie sterkte boet!
 

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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2020, 05:22:44 pm »
The new normal, they say.
Sorry about your loss.
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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2020, 05:26:56 pm »
Scary.

Best wishes an hope you find the strength to get over this.
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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2020, 05:37:50 pm »
Thanks to all

If any good can come from this story is to prevent someone from making the same mistakes.

I really hope this helps someone
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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2020, 05:48:08 pm »
My kosbare seun, ons net oneindig dankbaar jy leef!
May the WORS be WITH you!
 

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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2020, 06:36:34 pm »
Thanks for sharing, Biela. Very sound advice.

Sorry you had to go through that though

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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2020, 08:26:51 pm »
My kosbare seun, ons net oneindig dankbaar jy leef!

Is dit jou seun, Biela, Mnr. Landman?
Bliksem tog?
Sterkte daar.

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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2020, 07:14:02 am »
What a terrible ordeal
 

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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2020, 07:45:13 am »
My kosbare seun, ons net oneindig dankbaar jy leef!

Is dit jou seun, Biela, Mnr. Landman?
Bliksem tog?
Sterkte daar.

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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2020, 07:50:20 am »
thanks for sharing!
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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2020, 08:18:00 am »
My son got scammed twice ( must be his motherís side  :biggrin:) wrt selling first a gaming pc, then gaming laptop. First was a Nigerian - fake bank deposit slip, then he went a deposit a cheque in my sonís account, which shows the same amount as on the slip.  Seems very legit, but cheque bounce 3 days later, but shown in his account.  In the meantime send Ďuber driverí to fetch pc

Second one, now once bitten... sold laptop, long correspondence with middle aged white male. Agreed to meet at Spar. My son took his friend with, but never told me (want ek sou hom fokken dood bliksem). Met the oke in his car. He pulled a pistol took the laptop and drove away. White male, 40s, baldish hair.  Fokken gemors. Baby blue Daihatsu Sirion.  My wife and her network tried to find the oke. Through police and a PI.  Every time he got tipped off, so he is obviously connected. Even send her a threat that she must stop trying to find him since he is one step ahead and knows where we live.
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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2020, 09:09:13 am »
These scams have been around for a very long time and will never go away, but will evolve and become more sofisticated.

Our best defence is being street wise and keeping up to date with the progressively new "normal".

I feel for Biela as much as all the others, but one must remember; this is not only an SA phenomenon. They happen the world over.
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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2020, 09:17:13 am »
These scams have been around for a very long time and will never go away, but will evolve and become more sofisticated.

Our best defence is being street wise and keeping up to date with the progressively new "normal".

I feel for Biela as much as all the others, but one must remember; this is not only an SA phenomenon. They happen the world over.

No it does not. Stop with that narrative.

While crime is obviously a world wide epidemic being murdered for a lap top or phone is highly unlikely in most western countries.
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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2020, 09:21:36 am »
World over, not western countries. Your narrative is wrong
 

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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2020, 10:13:33 am »
Hi all

I just though i might share my story to prevent anyone form getting hurt in future.

so yesterday on the 11th of November 2020 I had a appointment at 3Pm
I was selling my pc on facebook( bit high end machine) so decide to drop it off at the buyer at which was just up the road in midrand as we have been in telephonic and text communication and he advised this his absa manager just dropped a massive report on him.
I was selling it for a deposit on a spotless 2017 KX450.
Driving to the complex was all jolly and peaceful.
I met the buyer at the gate and he let me into the complex.

I unloaded the pc and was about to help him carry it up to his flat.
as i turn arround i was stairing straight into the barrel of a load 9mm pistol and was forced to what assumed was his appartment(Which was probably just a show room appartment now that i think about it).
I was force to lay facedown on the sofa and told to coperate. they then took everything i had on me my brand new s20 wallet car key everything.
I was then taken to one of the rooms.
as i entered the room i realized that this was no ordinary robbery. everything was layed out to kleen up and cover up after my murder.
it was then that it hit me like a truck i was about to die.
they then asked a series of question including if i had an apppointment after this to which i had to tell them.
One of them went out of the room and came back and said the words that will haunt me forever.
He said "If i did not have that appointment hethe plan was to keep me hostage till late and kill me."
He did say a whole lot of other things. which is not going to be mentioned.
By the grace o the lord I was spared and not harmed.
I was then put in my car and followed until my appointment.
I was forced to endure and keep my pose in the appointment as i was told that they work for a syndicate and will kill me and my whole family if i dont.
after which i drove like a mad person to get to a phone and en sure that my wife and kids are safe.
then i drove like a mad person on the highway to ensure i get to them and the inform the relivant people of the situation.

I am wrinting this to you in the hopes that you dont make the same mistakes as i did as it nearly cost me everything.

if i can leave you with a few things its the following.

1. Never meet a person at their or your house for a sale.
2. always meet in a public place with lots of people like a mall
3. spend time with your loved ones. Life can end in a single moment dont wast it.
4. keep your private life private.
5. secure your social media and make it as private as possible.
6. treat people with kindness as you never know what they are dealing with.
7. trust no one


I sincerely hope this will help someone to not end up like me or worse.

This is fucking hectic, and this is beyond being scammed. Youíre clearly lucky to be alive and thank goodness you survived this ordeal. A nightmare experience like this certainly put life in a different perspective.
I donít even have advice, other than this is a near death experience and you must expect to be traumatized, so if possible I would advise you to seek some form of counseling to help you through this one.  This is just fucked up on a different level.
Thank you for sharing
 

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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2020, 10:51:23 am »
World over, not western countries. Your narrative is wrong

Keep telling yourself that... its a cop out... like saying " well it could have been worse " or i was so lucky they only beat me up and raped me but did not kill me.



« Last Edit: November 13, 2020, 10:52:50 am by IceCreamMan »
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Re: My SA Experience
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2020, 10:54:24 am »
These scams have been around for a very long time and will never go away, but will evolve and become more sofisticated.

Our best defence is being street wise and keeping up to date with the progressively new "normal".

I feel for Biela as much as all the others, but one must remember; this is not only an SA phenomenon. They happen the world over.

No it does not. Stop with that narrative.

While crime is obviously a world wide epidemic being murdered for a lap top or phone is highly unlikely in most western countries.
Crime in UK is rife. so is murder. no one got murdered luckily. drama llama.
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