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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #140 on: April 02, 2021, 12:01:32 am »
Many options

Here's one of them - how about taking that chain off and check how much it will 'bend', like in a curved line when flat?
Perhaps a new/better chain will solve that chafing, not normal I reckon.
Sorry, a new chain's more than 2 cents  :P
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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #141 on: April 02, 2021, 08:20:48 am »
Thats a new RK chain and sprockets.
Except for perhaps a too loose chain, i have no other idea why it might chafe

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #142 on: April 02, 2021, 12:49:37 pm »
Thats a new RK chain and sprockets.
Except for perhaps a too loose chain, i have no other idea why it might chafe

Aww come on now, take it off and measure?
Will only cost you a new masterlink ..... and then you know, better than think!
Better still, take it to the shop and put it next to a new DID, and see what bends more, a rather convincing exercise if ever there is one!

Every brand makes a dud from time to time, and a cheaper chain (hey, no idea what you paid, and I'm not pointing fingers to you or a brand here please...) like Tsubaki (they used to be quite popular in NL) performed noticeably less than a DID - which is a costly chain I'll admit but also I have never heard of the kind of problem you seem to have!
Your pics show your frame is hammered, quite frankly that would hurt me, should not happen!
I just checked my (2014, 96hrs) orange 500 - and not a mark, nada, niks, and of course I (plus the previous owners) also ride with a slapper from time to time!
So in your case I'd be veryvery agterdogtig towards sideways bending of my chain here, and take it off to verify it.
Mind you, the CS, dunno, is it symmetrical or a lobsided one?
If the latter (if yes..) then maybe oopsie, turn it around!
Point here is, that side-slapping in NOT normal, and as it is relatively close to the CS I'd search until I'd find the reason .... hence my posts.

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #143 on: April 04, 2021, 06:43:27 pm »
Enduristan was a kak idea.

Waiting for a Coyote..  :sleepy1:
Did you try the Blizzards? I'm torn between  Blizzards and GL Mojave....

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #144 on: April 04, 2021, 06:55:04 pm »
Enduristan was a kak idea.

Waiting for a Coyote..  :sleepy1:
Did you try the Blizzards? I'm torn between  Blizzards and GL Mojave....

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Mojave is quite a bit smaller than the blizzard and just too small for anything longer than 2 days

The blizzards are:
1: a bit floppy when mounted. I reckon it will be better if the straps go underneath your seat. (Not possible on FE)
2: straps take up space over the seat.

I use my mojave for day rides only

Coyote:

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #145 on: April 04, 2021, 08:57:13 pm »
How is the front sprocket designed?

Is it possible to flip and fit the sprocket incorrectly, with it being closer to the frame than it should?


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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #146 on: April 04, 2021, 09:47:58 pm »
It goes in 1 specific way.
Once I'm done balancing the wheels, i will go test things again.

The chain has not rubbed through the 3d printed part yet, but I will monitor things closely

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #147 on: April 05, 2021, 10:54:31 am »
It goes in 1 specific way.
Once I'm done balancing the wheels, i will go test things again.

The chain has not rubbed through the 3d printed part yet, but I will monitor things closely

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #148 on: April 06, 2021, 10:53:32 pm »
Modeling this:



into:

 

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #149 on: April 08, 2021, 09:50:27 pm »
before:


after


Still have to make some plan with that phone ram mount.. not sure yet
 

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #150 on: April 09, 2021, 06:23:51 pm »
Thats a new RK chain and sprockets.
Except for perhaps a too loose chain, i have no other idea why it might chafe

Aww come on now, take it off and measure?
Will only cost you a new masterlink ..... and then you know, better than think!
Better still, take it to the shop and put it next to a new DID, and see what bends more, a rather convincing exercise if ever there is one!

Every brand makes a dud from time to time, and a cheaper chain (hey, no idea what you paid, and I'm not pointing fingers to you or a brand here please...) like Tsubaki (they used to be quite popular in NL) performed noticeably less than a DID - which is a costly chain I'll admit but also I have never heard of the kind of problem you seem to have!
Your pics show your frame is hammered, quite frankly that would hurt me, should not happen!
I just checked my (2014, 96hrs) orange 500 - and not a mark, nada, niks, and of course I (plus the previous owners) also ride with a slapper from time to time!
So in your case I'd be veryvery agterdogtig towards sideways bending of my chain here, and take it off to verify it.
Mind you, the CS, dunno, is it symmetrical or a lobsided one?
If the latter (if yes..) then maybe oopsie, turn it around!
Point here is, that side-slapping in NOT normal, and as it is relatively close to the CS I'd search until I'd find the reason .... hence my posts.

Kom nou man, vind die rede, daar IS erens een!  ;)

Man, I'm not sure what the previous owner had going on but the chafing on the frame could not have happened since I've had the bike:
1 - the marks would have been fresh, had it been me
2 - the inside of the sidestand also showed chafing marks
3 - I've ridden around now and the wear on the inside of the 3d printed part does not progress any further than in the pic attached
4 - The insulation tape on sidestand shows now sign of chain chafing

That being said, I will see how this bad boy holds up over my next 2K km trip


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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #151 on: April 09, 2021, 06:27:39 pm »


Balanced my wheels and fitted some grip puppies  >:D



Its a much improved ride now  :thumleft:
 

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #152 on: April 09, 2021, 06:34:44 pm »
I will see how this bad boy holds up over my next 2K km trip

That looks a LOT better - and a nice trip ahead hmm?
Not jealous, just tell me if you could eat some rabbit there  ;)
Enjoy, looks like a looker  :thumleft:
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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #153 on: April 10, 2021, 02:14:20 pm »
I will see how this bad boy holds up over my next 2K km trip

That looks a LOT better - and a nice trip ahead hmm?
Not jealous, just tell me if you could eat some rabbit there  ;)
Enjoy, looks like a looker  :thumleft:

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #154 on: April 11, 2021, 08:14:29 am »
From the limited views of your bikes chainguard, it seems different than mine. Did you modify it? Maybe this is the reason for the schafing?
 

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #155 on: April 11, 2021, 10:04:45 am »
From the limited views of your bikes chainguard, it seems different than mine. Did you modify it? Maybe this is the reason for the schafing?
No I didn't.
Care to share a pic of yours please?

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #156 on: April 11, 2021, 11:45:45 am »
Will probably go for the latter.

Sounds like you're going alone?
And, obviously you'll trailer it there, no point in boringly wasting tyres going down over what, 1300 km or so?
Holler if you'll need some help, got a (Dutch) friend there almost on your route, South Eastern area.
Shit, would not mind being there now, the weather's fine, scenery stunning and the fuzz fines you if you do not pull a wheelie for them!  :P


"your bikes chainguard, it seems different than mine"
Well now, this would be good news IF that's true!
Gooi a few pics for him to suss out what's what?  :thumleft:
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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #157 on: April 11, 2021, 12:39:42 pm »
Will probably go for the latter.

Sounds like you're going alone?
And, obviously you'll trailer it there, no point in boringly wasting tyres going down over what, 1300 km or so?
Holler if you'll need some help, got a (Dutch) friend there almost on your route, South Eastern area.
Shit, would not mind being there now, the weather's fine, scenery stunning and the fuzz fines you if you do not pull a wheelie for them! 


I'm most likely going solo as my single bike trailer wont carry my friend's 990 too
Got a very convenient little trailer that fits in the boot of my car O0
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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #158 on: April 11, 2021, 12:45:26 pm »
I bought the 990 to be able to cover distances to places that I'd like to explore

Took one proper trip to realize i'd rather chill in my cage for 1000km and then unleash the no-compromise dualsport 500

Sad part is that my friend has to either travel those brainless section alone or change to a lighter bike too.
 

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #159 on: April 11, 2021, 04:36:27 pm »
From the limited views of your bikes chainguard, it seems different than mine. Did you modify it? Maybe this is the reason for the schafing?
This is what fitted on mine:

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