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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #100 on: February 02, 2021, 12:58:54 pm »
Looking good, should the rear view mirror not be on the right side of the bike ?
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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #101 on: February 02, 2021, 02:10:39 pm »
Looking good, should the rear view mirror not be on the right side of the bike ?

We drive on the right side of the road and i find the left side mirror easier to use

Im supposed to use two mirrors but for now, 1 will have to suffice
 

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #102 on: February 03, 2021, 11:48:17 am »
On to the issue of combining a 2020+ screen with 2017-2019 rally side covers.

The good:
As you might recall, I received this combination from RadeGarage and as compensation, they also provided the 2020 side covers for free.
That means that I have the possibility of eventually upgrading to a 2020+ model 500/501 and this kit will still fit  :thumleft:

The bad:
Front fender hits the 2017 side covers when turning the bars.


This little 'flap' had to be removed:



Not sure what kind of perspex they used for this kit, but man! its extremely flexible:




The ugly:
misaligned holes + mismatched bolt:


I needed to use a longer bolt, in order to mount both plastic pieces to the tower. Finding a longer both that matches is no problem.
The holes, well, nothing that I can do about those, except some sticker kit solution perhaps.

But honestly if you don't know about that minor issue, you will not know that it's there.

It's a price I'm willing to pay for having a future proof rally kit which is a lot lighter than anything else on the market
 

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #103 on: February 03, 2021, 05:37:54 pm »
Not sure what kind of perspex they used for this kit, but man! its extremely flexible

You're sure it's Perspex?
Polycarbonate's more likely, for it bends & does not shatter, hence safer.
Here's how you find out:
- put that little piece outside (for Saffers: in your fridge lol) for a while, then next whack it with a hammer whilst on a solid surface, say an anvil or vice
- if it shatters it's Perspex, if not it's Polycarbonate.
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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #104 on: February 03, 2021, 06:12:36 pm »
Not sure what kind of perspex they used for this kit, but man! its extremely flexible

You're sure it's Perspex?
Polycarbonate's more likely, for it bends & does not shatter, hence safer.
Here's how you find out:
- put that little piece outside (for Saffers: in your fridge lol) for a while, then next whack it with a hammer whilst on a solid surface, say an anvil or vice
- if it shatters it's Perspex, if not it's Polycarbonate.

its definitely Polycarbonate then  ;D
 

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #105 on: February 03, 2021, 07:32:09 pm »
On to the issue of combining a 2020+ screen with 2017-2019 rally side covers.

The good:
As you might recall, I received this combination from RadeGarage and as compensation, they also provided the 2020 side covers for free.
That means that I have the possibility of eventually upgrading to a 2020+ model 500/501 and this kit will still fit  :thumleft:

The bad:
Front fender hits the 2017 side covers when turning the bars.


This little 'flap' had to be removed:



Not sure what kind of perspex they used for this kit, but man! its extremely flexible:




The ugly:
misaligned holes + mismatched bolt:


I needed to use a longer bolt, in order to mount both plastic pieces to the tower. Finding a longer both that matches is no problem.
The holes, well, nothing that I can do about those, except some sticker kit solution perhaps.

But honestly if you don't know about that minor issue, you will not know that it's there.

It's a price I'm willing to pay for having a future proof rally kit which is a lot lighter than anything else on the market
Good heavens!
Flexible perspex?? Look at that thumb bending!! You double jointed?
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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #106 on: February 03, 2021, 07:34:38 pm »
Not sure what kind of perspex they used for this kit, but man! its extremely flexible

You're sure it's Perspex?
Polycarbonate's more likely, for it bends & does not shatter, hence safer.
Here's how you find out:
- put that little piece outside (for Saffers: in your fridge lol) for a while, then next whack it with a hammer whilst on a solid surface, say an anvil or vice
- if it shatters it's Perspex, if not it's Polycarbonate.

It is Lexan - a UHI an 'Ultra High Impact' acrylic as used for some helmet visors.
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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #107 on: February 03, 2021, 07:55:34 pm »


Good heavens!
Flexible perspex?? Look at that thumb bending!! You double jointed?

Haha, was wondering if someone would comment on that.

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #108 on: February 04, 2021, 09:44:29 am »
It is Lexan - a UHI an 'Ultra High Impact' acrylic as used for some helmet visors.

Uh no Dom, sorry.
Lexan is a trade name (brand) of a certain polycarbonate manufacturer, but polycarbonate is the proper material name.
And Acrylic is something else again, properties sitting somewhere between perspex & polycarb  ;)

Look, it can be Lexan... but if it would be I'm sure Rade would (ab)use this as a major selling point and boast it on their marketing blurb, for reason it costs more than normal Polycarbonate (for it may have - not 'has' - a few improved characteristics) and it is a very well known name (proof: you mention it here  :P ).
Some glasses have 'plastic' lenses, which is polycarbonate of course: safest! One gets these in two kinds, which differ (amoungst others) in their refraction index, a higher and a lower one. The higher one costs a LOT more than the lower one, and is sometimes marketed (to 'justify' the high cost lol) as Lexan - but it isn't, they're other brands (origin Israel or Malaysia or thereabouts). The higher index results in thinner, therefore lighter!, lenses, and those who wear glasses will know that's very important  :thumleft:
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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #109 on: February 04, 2021, 10:04:24 am »
It is Lexan - a UHI an 'Ultra High Impact' acrylic as used for some helmet visors.

Uh no Dom, sorry.
Lexan is a trade name (brand) of a certain polycarbonate manufacturer, but polycarbonate is the proper material name.
And Acrylic is something else again, properties sitting somewhere between perspex & polycarb  ;)

Look, it can be Lexan... but if it would be I'm sure Rade would (ab)use this as a major selling point and boast it on their marketing blurb, for reason it costs more than normal Polycarbonate (for it may have - not 'has' - a few improved characteristics) and it is a very well known name (proof: you mention it here  :P ).
Some glasses have 'plastic' lenses, which is polycarbonate of course: safest! One gets these in two kinds, which differ (amoungst others) in their refraction index, a higher and a lower one. The higher one costs a LOT more than the lower one, and is sometimes marketed (to 'justify' the high cost lol) as Lexan - but it isn't, they're other brands (origin Israel or Malaysia or thereabouts). The higher index results in thinner, therefore lighter!, lenses, and those who wear glasses will know that's very important  :thumleft:

I do know about these materials and use them in my profession ie. I know the differences between the registered trade names like Perspex, Plexiglas, Acrylite, Lucite, Lexan etc and their properties, and also the generic equivalents. You are preaching to the choir (I used the term 'acrylic' in a generic sense). Rade himself told me the new screens like the F4 and cowlings are made of Lexan and as their screens are made by MRA I am not double guessing him.

EDIT From the horses mouth:
Our experiences riding around the world and customer feedback were combined with new technologies and used to develop the new F4 fairing kit for Husqvarna 701. The new windshield is injected with integrated spoiler and shader, 3D shaped headlights cover. The flexible side panels are from durable Lexan. New clamping system integrates an adapter mount for the Scotts steering damper. (applicable only for Husqvarna 701 production year 2020+ due to a different mounting points.) The build is very compact and  narrow to match the size and shape of the Husqvarna 701 and keeps the original handling of the bike."
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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #110 on: February 04, 2021, 10:34:10 am »
Weet nie wat julle oor praat nie, maar beteken dit ek kan harder val?

Hierdie litte van my bietjie flex ;D
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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #111 on: February 04, 2021, 12:14:02 pm »
As jy met die pragtige ding gaan val gaan jy heel beslis pragtige kommentaar kry ook!  :P
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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #112 on: February 09, 2021, 12:22:09 am »
Ek wik en weeg of ek hierdie moet aanskaf



Eks net bang stof etc gaan sit tussen swingarm en cover met die gevolg dat dit eventueel meer skade doen as goed?
 

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #113 on: February 09, 2021, 08:39:41 am »
Ek wik en weeg of ek hierdie moet aanskaf



Eks net bang stof etc gaan sit tussen swingarm en cover met die gevolg dat dit eventueel meer skade doen as goed?
Lyk netjies, en maklik om af te haal en skoon te maak wanneer jy die fiets was. 2 Cable ties aan ń kant.

Het dit op die 500 gehad.

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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #114 on: February 09, 2021, 08:50:45 am »
Ek wik en weeg of ek hierdie moet aanskaf



Eks net bang stof etc gaan sit tussen swingarm en cover met die gevolg dat dit eventueel meer skade doen as goed?
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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #115 on: February 09, 2021, 09:29:22 am »
If you fit them place Duct Tape or vinyl laminate underneath as any sand or mud will abrade the swingarm finish, even if you remove and wash reasonably regularly the risk is there as it only takes a little vibration. But they do protect the swingarm from knocks and graunches - certainly in enduro and tech situations.
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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #116 on: February 10, 2021, 10:34:14 am »
Ek volg nog hier  :sip:
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« Reply #117 on: February 10, 2021, 11:19:04 am »
Is goed want ek het nog stof bestel  >:D







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« Reply #118 on: February 10, 2021, 11:22:43 am »
Is goed want ek het nog stof bestel  >:D







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Re: 501 Rally/Adv build
« Reply #119 on: February 10, 2021, 11:35:46 am »
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