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Offline 2StrokeDan

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2021, 07:51:31 pm »
How much power does the 690 produce again??

If some folks cant mange all that hp properly, they should scale down to a Jap offering; their clutches are happy with the 50% less load.

*this excludes the great XRR. A bike pioneered by a racing legend. Reluctantly built by the Japs and replaced by soft-cock offerings for those, "ready to slip the clutch" people

Yes, and the XR-R also has a proper clutch, despite it being a "Jap offering", you must understand that clutches are paired to engines, so your 24HP CRF230 will have a clutch relatively as strong as the

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2021, 08:31:32 pm »
Adding a beefier clutch means more rotational mass etc etc
All to protect the bike from people that shouldn't be riding it in the 1st place.

Instead of spending your efforts criticizing 6/790 clutches, maybe start a riding school for your Jap tjommies?

You know, give something back to the community.

As long as you don't advocate to have these bikes 'fixed' as it would only lead to an overpriced, overweight, underpowered specimen.

Like the t7
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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2021, 08:34:38 pm »
Adding a beefier clutch means more rotational mass etc etc
All to protect the bike from people that shouldn't be riding it in the 1st place.

Instead of spending your efforts criticizing 6/790 clutches, maybe start a riding school for your Jap tjommies?

You know, give something back to the community.

As long as you don't advocate to have these bikes 'fixed' as it would only lead to an overpriced, overweight, underpowered specimen.

Like the t7
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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2021, 08:42:26 pm »
Forgot to mention 'under sprung'

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2021, 08:43:42 pm »
Forgot to mention 'under sprung'

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I also believe the main problem with some KTM clutches are undersprung issues.
 

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2021, 08:58:20 pm »
Gonna need more than just springs, by the sound of your ramblings.

Start with your Jap rider's support group and work from there?

A neutered 690 is not the solution.

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2021, 09:00:11 pm »
Gonna need more than just springs, by the sound of your ramblings.

Start with your Jap rider's support group and work from there?

A neutered 690 is not the solution.

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2021, 09:03:44 pm »
Go read my last couple posts again.

Some folks should stick to underpowered, undersprung, overweight and overpriced Jap bikes, as they can slip their clutches all day long.

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2021, 09:27:42 pm »
Go read my last couple posts again.

Some folks should stick to underpowered, undersprung, overweight and overpriced Jap bikes, as they can slip their clutches all day long.

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2021, 09:30:28 pm »
Sure is an art, given it's road bike heritage

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2021, 09:39:29 pm »
Sure is an art, given it's road bike heritage

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Like the first ever Dakar win? Or showing the world the way with offroad 4strokes?

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2021, 10:06:52 pm »
Was more referring to the flex-o-matic 43mm forks, triple clamps and road bike frame.

But sure, must be directly influenced by the Dakar wins of decades ago.

This road bike looking gear shifter says it all!


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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2021, 10:09:30 pm »
I blame that guy that put TKC-80's on an R1 and took it into the desert.

It obviously gave Yamaha all sorts of ideas.

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2021, 10:18:31 pm »
I blame that guy that put TKC-80's on an R1 and took it into the desert.

It obviously gave Yamaha all sorts of ideas.

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2021, 07:02:36 am »
Has anyone heard anything about a 690 being airlifted out of Swartberg today?? :pot: :pot: :pot:

Clutch, again......... :pot:

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2021, 07:10:26 am »
Has anyone heard anything about a 690 being airlifted out of Swartberg today?? :pot: :pot: :pot:

Clutch, again......... :pot:

Bike was seker net due vir 'n service en hy wou nie oor sy ure gaan nie.......... >:D

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2021, 10:20:04 am »
maybe start a riding school for your Jap tjommies?

He cannot dirtWarp, no way Jose...... because he's got an orange and blue KTM himself, and which Jap-owner will trust such a teacher hmm?


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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2021, 10:39:41 am »
maybe start a riding school for your Jap tjommies?

He cannot dirtWarp, no way Jose...... because he's got an orange and blue KTM himself, and which Jap-owner will trust such a teacher hmm?


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The teacher will be late for class. :biggrin:, and full of oil.
 

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2021, 01:04:10 pm »
maybe start a riding school for your Jap tjommies?

He cannot dirtWarp, no way Jose...... because he's got an orange and blue KTM himself, and which Jap-owner will trust such a teacher hmm?


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The teacher will be late for class. :biggrin:, and full of oil.

Take your XT.
Put on your vel skoens and leave before dawn.
 

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Re: KTM 690 airlifted out of Swartberg.
« Reply #59 on: January 14, 2021, 09:18:27 pm »
maybe start a riding school for your Jap tjommies?

He cannot dirtWarp, no way Jose...... because he's got an orange and blue KTM himself, and which Jap-owner will trust such a teacher hmm?


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The teacher will be late for class. :biggrin:, and full of oil.

Take your XT.
Put on your vel skoens and leave before dawn.

The XT has done this very route, from the Klaarstroom side of Meiringspoort to the top of Swartbergpass, in one day.

In one day, from my home in Stellenbosch and back in the evening.

These are daytrips to me. Because I am on a Yamaha.

I am planning to do it on the Husky, and will put a planning a ride thing out as soon as we are over the hot weather.

Do not ever deride an XT, as you very obviously do not know what they are.