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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #100 on: January 27, 2021, 12:40:08 pm »
We need more affordable 600-650 bikes on the market. That is what a lot of people started touring on many years ago.
Excellent comment this.
If you look at the demographics of bikers there isn't a lot of new blood.
And if they do decide to try biking they go straight for the 1200s and ruin the journey.
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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #101 on: January 27, 2021, 12:44:08 pm »
We need more affordable 600-650 bikes on the market. That is what a lot of people started touring on many years ago.
Excellent comment this.
If you look at the demographics of bikers there isn't a lot of new blood.
And if they do decide to try biking they go straight for the 1200s and ruin the journey.
Vra enige 50-55 jarige met watter size bike het hy mee regtig begin gatskuur en gaan kamp en so meer. Wed jou antwoord sal 500-650 klas wees en ongelukkig is daar nie veel te koop in daai klas nuut nou in SA. Anyway nie iets wat ek nuut sal kan bekostig. :(
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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #102 on: January 27, 2021, 12:48:25 pm »
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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #103 on: January 27, 2021, 01:02:53 pm »
We need more affordable 600-650 bikes on the market. That is what a lot of people started touring on many years ago.
Excellent comment this.
If you look at the demographics of bikers there isn't a lot of new blood.
And if they do decide to try biking they go straight for the 1200s and ruin the journey.
Vra enige 50-55 jarige met watter size bike het hy mee regtig begin gatskuur en gaan kamp en so meer. Wed jou antwoord sal 500-650 klas wees en ongelukkig is daar nie veel te koop in daai klas nuut nou in SA. Anyway nie iets wat ek nuut sal kan bekostig. :(

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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #104 on: January 27, 2021, 01:24:40 pm »
Like many guys on this forum, I started on a KLR, it was cheap to buy, cheap to farkle, had its issues but it took me everywhere I wanted to go.

yes the suspension sux, but my talent was and still is not at a stage where I can say I really need better.

when my KLR was stolen I bought a DL1000 Vstrom and never did any proper offroading for 6 years

only when I bought my KLE did I finally get back to adventure riding, maybe cause these bikes are simple, cheaper per sliding metre and one hell of a lot more fun to ride



 
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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #105 on: January 27, 2021, 05:09:36 pm »
I used to have rental DR650s and KLRs.  German clients.  They always preferred the KLR.  Want to see something funny?  Watch some heroes on KTM 950/990 in bottomless 2 spoor battle with a KLR.  Those cheapies ran straight as an arrow even while you sat down.  No need for attack positions etc
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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #106 on: January 27, 2021, 05:41:55 pm »

If only,   they changed it to Diesel ?

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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #107 on: January 27, 2021, 06:03:52 pm »

If only,   they changed it to Diesel ?

 :biggrin:

HmmmmÖ.then it would be even heavier coz they would have to use AdBlue and stick a DPF in it to keep the emission in check. More electronics as well!  >:D

Not a bad thought though as I'm a huge diesel fan! :)
 

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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #108 on: January 27, 2021, 06:26:31 pm »
In die geval van 'n KLR dink ek nie die vraag is of hy beter is of nie, die antwoord is jy kan hom steeds koop.
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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #109 on: January 27, 2021, 08:45:38 pm »
This will fill a huge gap in the market.
Pricing will be crucial.
Low enough for people to buy it.
High enough to make a decent profit.
If it sells enough the other manufacturers will take note and follow
They all have the hardware already, or most of it anyway.

Big advantage of the KLR is the existing liquid cooling , for Honda or Suzuki a new engine design would be needed . We can but hope
How about a FI 650R motor from Honda, DUX? :drif:

Not just FI , it would need liquid cooling as well , noise , emissions etc ......  I do believe that if Honda approached it with a clean sheet they can come up with a good bike , if it was up to me I would say something along the lines of a modern XR650R , the barest of roadworthiness and emphasis on light weight , performance and good handling , and then a Rally version but with weight less than 160kg .
I wonít happen so I will stay with my XR600R  ;D
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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #110 on: January 27, 2021, 08:55:37 pm »
This will fill a huge gap in the market.
Pricing will be crucial.
Low enough for people to buy it.
High enough to make a decent profit.
If it sells enough the other manufacturers will take note and follow
They all have the hardware already, or most of it anyway.

Big advantage of the KLR is the existing liquid cooling , for Honda or Suzuki a new engine design would be needed . We can but hope
How about a FI 650R motor from Honda, DUX? :drif:

Not just FI , it would need liquid cooling as well , noise , emissions etc ......  I do believe that if Honda approached it with a clean sheet they can come up with a good bike , if it was up to me I would say something along the lines of a modern XR650R , the barest of roadworthiness and emphasis on light weight , performance and good handling , and then a Rally version but with weight less than 160kg .
I wonít happen so I will stay with my XR600R  ;D

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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #111 on: January 27, 2021, 08:56:43 pm »
There are 15 year old KLR's out there doing more dirt orientated DS riding than many modern garage queens.

This should sell very well.

Very true , not everyone wants or can afford a high spec bike , and letís be real if you donít like it you donít buy it , but I can see it being a good seller
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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #112 on: January 27, 2021, 08:58:38 pm »
This will fill a huge gap in the market.
Pricing will be crucial.
Low enough for people to buy it.
High enough to make a decent profit.
If it sells enough the other manufacturers will take note and follow
They all have the hardware already, or most of it anyway.

Big advantage of the KLR is the existing liquid cooling , for Honda or Suzuki a new engine design would be needed . We can but hope
How about a FI 650R motor from Honda, DUX? :drif:

Not just FI , it would need liquid cooling as well , noise , emissions etc ......  I do believe that if Honda approached it with a clean sheet they can come up with a good bike , if it was up to me I would say something along the lines of a modern XR650R , the barest of roadworthiness and emphasis on light weight , performance and good handling , and then a Rally version but with weight less than 160kg .
I wonít happen so I will stay with my XR600R  ;D

Gavin was talking about the XR-R, Dux.

My mistake , but even that wouldnít make it now , a redesign is all that will keep the tree huggers happy
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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #113 on: January 27, 2021, 08:59:08 pm »
New engine or not? Lipstick on a pig it seems? Like the last Ďnewí model.  Ffs at that weight throw in the Versys motor as everyone is screaming for for 12 years already
I think the decision to stick to the single is to retain the good torque characteristics
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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #114 on: January 27, 2021, 09:24:56 pm »
There are 15 year old KLR's out there doing more dirt orientated DS riding than many modern garage queens.

This should sell very well.

Very true , not everyone wants or can afford a high spec bike , and letís be real if you donít like it you donít buy it , but I can see it being a good seller

A year ago I would've agreed with you. With our economy in it's current state, money for luxuries is dissapearing fast. I would like to see this bike doing well, sales wise, but the economy is against it
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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #115 on: January 27, 2021, 09:37:57 pm »
There are 15 year old KLR's out there doing more dirt orientated DS riding than many modern garage queens.

This should sell very well.

Very true , not everyone wants or can afford a high spec bike , and letís be real if you donít like it you donít buy it , but I can see it being a good seller

A year ago I would've agreed with you. With our economy in it's current state, money for luxuries is dissapearing fast. I would like to see this bike doing well, sales wise, but the economy is against it

I am not just referring to here , but other countries as well .
Maybe our depleted economy might well work in its favour as well , who knows
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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #116 on: January 28, 2021, 12:40:20 am »
Let's not forget the traditionally shite suspension that appears little changed - not even upside down forks and still scrawny 41mm  :o  Yes they say there is now some adjustment (or some has been done?) but another WTF as far as I can see? Did anyone notice still a 5 speed? The adventure model weighs a wopping 221kg - ludicrous! Another fatty 'mid-weight' hits the market. This facelift model needs a tummy tuck  :imaposer:  Should still be ever popular with Trumponians Stateside.  >:D
But for $6500 what else are you going to buy brand new ? Maybe a set of 890 forks alone will cost the same
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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #117 on: January 28, 2021, 12:46:00 am »
Grootse probleem met hierdie besigheid is hy gaan nogsteeds dieselfde girls trek as die original KLR in die vroeŽ 90's.

Enigste ding is, daai selfde anties is nou 30jaar ouer.
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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #118 on: January 28, 2021, 05:35:17 am »
Pity about the weight.A 650 single should be around 60kg lighter.

Yes the x challenge is about 60 kg lighter with its 9 liter fuel tank etc.
Completely a different tool for a different job.
Have you done some serious long distance touring with the x challenge?
Yes the Klr is a bit heavier. About 18kg heavier than my XT660R used to be. Not the end of the world for
a long distance touring adventure bike. A scrambler it is not and neither was my XT.
The DR 650 SE was the lightest of the old 650 Japanese bunch at 147 kgs dry, and with 13 liters of fuel about 160 kgs "wet".

The old KLR was 192 kgs "wet".

Although competition, the KLR is the better longer distance option, on tar and good gravel.

The DR is more suited for shorter tar, and more technical terrain.

The new KLR should be an excellent and well priced commuter option too!

This might just inspire the likes of Honda and Suzuki to bring out a Fi 650!

Suzuki Japan. Pse fit the DRZ 400's forks then!

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Re: KLR 650 now with EFI for 2022
« Reply #119 on: January 28, 2021, 06:31:28 am »
the KLR is a great bike and will take you anywhere , but the new one is still as ugly as all the others, ;)
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