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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1520 on: September 21, 2021, 12:06:37 pm »
What's gaaning aan with the KTM's? Their new chassis does not seem to be amounting to much. And Oliveira that seems to have fallen by the wayside. Can the bike really be that bad?

BB33 used the previous chassis on race day.  He immediately jumped from 17th fastest to 9th fastest on Sunday morning warm-up.  It seems to me, KTM is falling around like they did the last year BB was in Moto2.  They are willing to try anything.  Maybe they should try Ohlins suspension?

Lets see what KTM can muster up over the next 2 days.

See Honda has a new prototype up their sleeve being tested today.

They will all have at least one 2022 prototype at the testing.  Honda seems to have made a few biggish changes if you look at the exhaust having been moved, a different airbox intake and a different tail piece. 
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1521 on: September 21, 2021, 12:38:47 pm »
Did anyone else hear Miller's accent  :patch: (WTF)

Binder always optimistic in front of the camera's, think its a SAFFA thing not to look a gifted horse you know. . . .  But he is not giving us much to work with here, he is a moerse gentleman on camera and always praising the team efforts but if the bike is kak tell us!!!!!!  We all rooting for you man!

Sundays chassis was a major improvement when they introduced this and he said he had way more corner speed, now he is puzzling to get out of the corners.  Anyway, 6th in the championship says a lot and certainly better than a kick in the nuts!
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1522 on: September 21, 2021, 12:42:54 pm »
Did anyone else hear Miller's accent  :patch: (WTF)

Binder always optimistic in front of the camera's, think its a SAFFA thing not to look a gifted horse you know. . . .  But he is not giving us much to work with here, he is a moerse gentleman on camera and always praising the team efforts but if the bike is kak tell us!!!!!!  We all rooting for you man!

Sundays chassis was a major improvement when they introduced this and he said he had way more corner speed, now he is puzzling to get out of the corners.  Anyway, 6th in the championship says a lot and certainly better than a kick in the nuts!

Miller is an Aussie, he will sound a tad nuts.   :lol8:

Janee.  6th in the MotoGP championship is something to be proud off.  With a bit of luck he can even make 5th, possibly 4th.
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1523 on: September 21, 2021, 12:52:53 pm »
Got an Italian accent going there.  Maybe he had to adapt to give them better feedback but its harsher on the ear than dingo itself! :deal:
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1524 on: September 21, 2021, 01:01:40 pm »
Got an Italian accent going there.  Maybe he had to adapt to give them better feedback but its harsher on the ear than dingo itself! :deal:
I guess it's an Aussie that's been in Europe for a long time, accent.
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1525 on: September 21, 2021, 01:44:22 pm »
Did anyone else hear Miller's accent  :patch: (WTF)

Binder always optimistic in front of the camera's, think its a SAFFA thing not to look a gifted horse you know. . . .  But he is not giving us much to work with here, he is a moerse gentleman on camera and always praising the team efforts but if the bike is kak tell us!!!!!!  We all rooting for you man!

Sundays chassis was a major improvement when they introduced this and he said he had way more corner speed, now he is puzzling to get out of the corners.  Anyway, 6th in the championship says a lot and certainly better than a kick in the nuts!

Miller is an Aussie, he will sound a tad nuts.   :lol8:

Janee.  6th in the MotoGP championship is something to be proud off.  With a bit of luck he can even make 5th, possibly 4th.



Yet no real champion would ever be proud of 6th position. In fact, they see 2nd as the first loser.
 

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1526 on: September 21, 2021, 01:50:12 pm »
Did anyone else hear Miller's accent  :patch: (WTF)

Binder always optimistic in front of the camera's, think its a SAFFA thing not to look a gifted horse you know. . . .  But he is not giving us much to work with here, he is a moerse gentleman on camera and always praising the team efforts but if the bike is kak tell us!!!!!!  We all rooting for you man!

Sundays chassis was a major improvement when they introduced this and he said he had way more corner speed, now he is puzzling to get out of the corners.  Anyway, 6th in the championship says a lot and certainly better than a kick in the nuts!

Miller is an Aussie, he will sound a tad nuts.   8:

Janee.  6th in the MotoGP championship is something to be proud off.  With a bit of luck he can even make 5th, possibly 4th.



Yet no real champion would ever be proud of 6th position. In fact, they see 2nd as the first loser.
Very true, but not many people thought there will be a South African in sixth place riding a bike that's not the best one on the grid.

DB and BB is putting SA on the map and its nice for a change.

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1527 on: September 21, 2021, 02:31:47 pm »
Did anyone else hear Miller's accent  :patch: (WTF)

Binder always optimistic in front of the camera's, think its a SAFFA thing not to look a gifted horse you know. . . .  But he is not giving us much to work with here, he is a moerse gentleman on camera and always praising the team efforts but if the bike is kak tell us!!!!!!  We all rooting for you man!

Sundays chassis was a major improvement when they introduced this and he said he had way more corner speed, now he is puzzling to get out of the corners.  Anyway, 6th in the championship says a lot and certainly better than a kick in the nuts!

Miller is an Aussie, he will sound a tad nuts.   8:

Janee.  6th in the MotoGP championship is something to be proud off.  With a bit of luck he can even make 5th, possibly 4th.



Yet no real champion would ever be proud of 6th position. In fact, they see 2nd as the first loser.
Very true, but not many people thought there will be a South African in sixth place riding a bike that's not the best one on the grid.

DB and BB is putting SA on the map and its nice for a change.

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1528 on: September 21, 2021, 02:36:48 pm »
An interesting fact of BB's career (if i recall correctly) is that every year he has done better than the previous one.  never did worse.  always getting better and improving ito season standings.  This year he is set to do better than last year again (touch wood) --- potentially even getting a 4th spot

if so - next year will be a real test
 

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1529 on: September 22, 2021, 08:58:03 am »
Did anyone else hear Miller's accent  :patch: (WTF)

Binder always optimistic in front of the camera's, think its a SAFFA thing not to look a gifted horse you know. . . .  But he is not giving us much to work with here, he is a moerse gentleman on camera and always praising the team efforts but if the bike is kak tell us!!!!!!  We all rooting for you man!

Sundays chassis was a major improvement when they introduced this and he said he had way more corner speed, now he is puzzling to get out of the corners.  Anyway, 6th in the championship says a lot and certainly better than a kick in the nuts!

Miller is an Aussie, he will sound a tad nuts.   :lol8:

Janee.  6th in the MotoGP championship is something to be proud off.  With a bit of luck he can even make 5th, possibly 4th.



Yet no real champion would ever be proud of 6th position. In fact, they see 2nd as the first loser.

Of course, true for Brad, but we fans are nowhere near being world champions, are we?  I am most certainly proud of him.
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1530 on: September 22, 2021, 09:02:33 am »
Time for Brad to move to Honda. KTM went backwards this year. 

 

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1531 on: September 22, 2021, 09:02:46 am »
He managed a top 10 in the testing yesterday.  Even though 6/10's off the pace of bagnaaier, similar to fastest race lap on Sunday.

Lets see what those 2 kids in the Tech3 team gets up to today.

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@The Bear,  when does Rossi get to test his bikes and setup for his team next year seeing as there is only one official testing session left for this year?
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1532 on: September 22, 2021, 09:04:42 am »
An interesting fact of BB's career (if i recall correctly) is that every year he has done better than the previous one.  never did worse.  always getting better and improving ito season standings.  This year he is set to do better than last year again (touch wood) --- potentially even getting a 4th spot

if so - next year will be a real test

You do make an interesting point, so I went and had a look.

Red Bull Rookies Cup:  14th, 5th, 7th.
CEV Spanish Moto3 Championship:  17th (to be fair, he only did one race(he won) in preperation for the following year's entry into Moto3 WC)
125cc World Championship:  Only 5 races.  No points scored at all.
Moto3 World Championship: 21, 13, 11, 6, 1.
Moto 2 World Championship: 8, 3, 2.
MotoGP: 11, 6.

Basically only one time back in 2011 in Rookies Cup where he moved backward.

Time for Brad to move to Honda. KTM went backwards this year.

He can't.  He is contracted to KTM.
I can make a case that Honda is no better than KTM at this time.
Look at Pol's move from KTM to Honda. With MM93 there, look at DP, JL, etc.
Better BB33 stays with KTM for now.

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1533 on: September 22, 2021, 09:08:31 am »
Yes and i only counted the Moto3/2/GP times.

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1534 on: September 22, 2021, 09:11:17 am »
@The Bear,  when does Rossi get to test his bikes and setup for his team next year seeing as there is only one official testing session left for this year?

The VR46 team will probably be a Concession Team during their first years, so apart from the official tests, will also be able to do unlimited private testing.

I am not sure whether they will be regarded as a Concession Team as, although a new team, they will use existing bikes.  So, if not a Concession Team they will have to use the normal private practises.

Yes and i only counted the Moto3/2/GP times.

Impressive.  Shows his ability to constantly improve

Very impressive.  Also, those first years in Moto3 he rode bloody donkeys.  At one point his Dad would strip the suspension from Darryn's South African Moto3 bike, fly over to Europe and fit that to Brad's bike as it was so much better.

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1535 on: September 22, 2021, 03:23:02 pm »
He managed a top 10 in the testing yesterday.  Even though 6/10's off the pace of bagnaaier, similar to fastest race lap on Sunday.

Lets see what those 2 kids in the Tech3 team gets up to today.

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Lap times really are of little significance in testing imho - there are apples and oranges circulating. Teams testing different things not all looking for fast times.
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« Reply #1536 on: September 22, 2021, 03:53:26 pm »
Whilst you have a point, making the fastest lap time is quite a good outcome if you are tinkering with things.

Besides, they have to find an acceptable setting for their return to Misano in a couple of weeks.
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« Reply #1537 on: September 23, 2021, 09:38:50 am »
Whilst you have a point, making the fastest lap time is quite a good outcome if you are tinkering with things.

Besides, they have to find an acceptable setting for their return to Misano in a couple of weeks.

The problem with official tests this late in the season is that we don't know who did what and which bikes were used.  A rider's best time may well have been with the 2022 bike, or not.  It is interesting to note though.
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1538 on: September 23, 2021, 09:45:27 am »
Agreed, lots of spy shots surfacing last night of the blacked out bikes.

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1539 on: September 23, 2021, 09:49:28 am »
Agreed, lots of spy shots surfacing last night of the blacked out bikes.

It must be heaven for a journo, being there on the spot trying to sniff out new info.

There was a development freeze for 2020 and 2021, so everyone is very keen so see the 2022 bikes, while teams do their best to hide them.
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