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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1700 on: October 21, 2021, 08:20:03 pm »
Yes. That how it seems. It's not the end of the world. Look at what Frankie did last year with the 2019 bike and Fabio before him. Bastianini this year on the old Duke. Rossi in 2021 on the factory bike. .

The young guns seem to be able to adapt their riding style and make it work. They don't know what they have (or don't have) and take it and make it fast

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1701 on: October 21, 2021, 08:25:10 pm »
It will be very close to factory - it is easier for teams not to have two different spec bikes in the box. Depending on the rider it can be mostly academic at times but lets see as teams should now be able to make some bigger steps after the moratorium ... and Yamaha know that they are on the back foot.
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1702 on: October 21, 2021, 08:26:20 pm »
No I actually thought then he has an ok bike
 

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1703 on: October 21, 2021, 08:36:49 pm »
There could be a major step up with the 22 spec bikes because of the 2 year technical freeze coming to an end. The bike Darryn I'll be riding has had no engine development since the end of 2019 I think.


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« Reply #1704 on: October 22, 2021, 07:02:57 am »
Very glad for him! Beter of there than on a KTM !

You may also need a dolop of humble pie soon  :imaposer:

Really doubt that ! KTM and Aprilia was the only teams not under the development freeze and they should have stepped up! Aprilia did to a degree but KTM went backwards despite their advantage! So humble pie I doubt that!  When the real players release their developments  I think they will be even further towards the back if that is possible
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1705 on: October 22, 2021, 10:30:11 am »
Very glad for him! Beter of there than on a KTM !

You may also need a dolop of humble pie soon  :imaposer:

Really doubt that ! KTM and Aprilia was the only teams not under the development freeze and they should have stepped up! Aprilia did to a degree but KTM went backwards despite their advantage! So humble pie I doubt that!  When the real players release their developments  I think they will be even further towards the back if that is possible


I am especially surprised at Aprilia's seeming struggle, as they have a great GP racing history.

KTM only knows about scramblers, so it follows that they could be in the dark side. :biggrin:
 

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1706 on: October 22, 2021, 10:32:43 am »
Very glad for him! Beter of there than on a KTM !

You may also need a dolop of humble pie soon  :imaposer:

Really doubt that ! KTM and Aprilia was the only teams not under the development freeze and they should have stepped up! Aprilia did to a degree but KTM went backwards despite their advantage! So humble pie I doubt that!  When the real players release their developments  I think they will be even further towards the back if that is possible


I am especially surprised at Aprilia's seeming struggle, as they have a great GP racing history.

KTM only knows about scramblers, so it follows that they could be in the dark side. :biggrin:
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1707 on: October 22, 2021, 11:12:33 am »
It is sometimes better for a rookie to start his career on a non-factory spec bike.  Zeelenberg, as team manager, even limited Quartararo by an extra 50 revs during the first half of his rookie season.  Take season one as a learning curve year.


I am especially surprised at Aprilia's seeming struggle, as they have a great GP racing history.


In the smaller classes, yes but in the premier class, not so much.  Almost exactly like KTM.   ;)

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1708 on: October 22, 2021, 12:31:23 pm »
Times coming in from practice :

1   5   Johann ZARCO   FRA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   295.0   1'42.374   
2   93   Marc MARQUEZ   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   291.1   1'43.791   1.417 / 1.417
3   43   Jack MILLER   AUS   Ducati Lenovo Team   Ducati   291.8   1'43.999   1.625 / 0.208
4   89   Jorge MARTIN   SPA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   292.6   1'44.041   1.667 / 0.042
5   21   Franco MORBIDELLI   ITA   Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   283.4   1'44.054   1.680 / 0.013
6   63   Francesco BAGNAIA   ITA   Ducati Lenovo Team   Ducati   289.5   1'44.183   1.809 / 0.129
7   88   Miguel OLIVEIRA   POR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   288.7   1'44.243   1.869 / 0.060
8   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Tech 3 KTM Factory Racing   KTM   285.7   1'44.324   1.950 / 0.081
9   27   Iker LECUONA   SPA   Tech 3 KTM Factory Racing   KTM   283.4   1'44.405   2.031 / 0.081
10   36   Joan MIR   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   288.7   1'44.513   2.139 / 0.108
11   10   Luca MARINI   ITA   SKY VR46 Avintia   Ducati   288.0   1'44.575   2.201 / 0.062
12   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Petronas Yamaha SRT   Yamaha   284.2   1'44.751   2.377 / 0.176
13   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   Ducati Lenovo Team   Ducati   284.9   1'44.888   2.514 / 0.137
14   73   Alex MARQUEZ   SPA   LCR Honda CASTROL   Honda   288.7   1'45.011   2.637 / 0.123
15   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   288.7   1'45.204   2.830 / 0.193
16   42   Alex RINS   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   288.0   1'45.221   2.847 / 0.017
17   12   Maverick VIŅALES   SPA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   292.6   1'45.445   3.071 / 0.224
18   20   Fabio QUARTARARO   FRA   Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   283.4   1'45.477   3.103 / 0.032
19   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   288.0   1'45.656   3.282 / 0.179
20   23   Enea BASTIANINI   ITA   Avintia Esponsorama   Ducati   285.7   1'45.853   3.479 / 0.197
21   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Petronas Yamaha SRT   Yamaha   284.2   1'45.881   3.507 / 0.028
22   30   Takaaki NAKAGAMI   JPN   LCR Honda IDEMITSU   Honda   287.2   1'46.046   3.672 / 0.165
23   33   Brad BINDER   RSA   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   278.3   1'46.152   3.778 / 0.106
24   32   Lorenzo SAVADORI   ITA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   281.9   1'46.966   4.592 / 0.814
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« Reply #1709 on: October 22, 2021, 12:45:24 pm »
Times coming in from practice :

1   5   Johann ZARCO   FRA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   295.0   1'42.374   
2   93   Marc MARQUEZ   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   291.1   1'43.791   1.417 / 1.417
3   43   Jack MILLER   AUS   Ducati Lenovo Team   Ducati   291.8   1'43.999   1.625 / 0.208
4   89   Jorge MARTIN   SPA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   292.6   1'44.041   1.667 / 0.042
5   21   Franco MORBIDELLI   ITA   Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   283.4   1'44.054   1.680 / 0.013
6   63   Francesco BAGNAIA   ITA   Ducati Lenovo Team   Ducati   289.5   1'44.183   1.809 / 0.129
7   88   Miguel OLIVEIRA   POR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   288.7   1'44.243   1.869 / 0.060
8   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Tech 3 KTM Factory Racing   KTM   285.7   1'44.324   1.950 / 0.081
9   27   Iker LECUONA   SPA   Tech 3 KTM Factory Racing   KTM   283.4   1'44.405   2.031 / 0.081
10   36   Joan MIR   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   288.7   1'44.513   2.139 / 0.108
11   10   Luca MARINI   ITA   SKY VR46 Avintia   Ducati   288.0   1'44.575   2.201 / 0.062
12   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Petronas Yamaha SRT   Yamaha   284.2   1'44.751   2.377 / 0.176
13   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   Ducati Lenovo Team   Ducati   284.9   1'44.888   2.514 / 0.137
14   73   Alex MARQUEZ   SPA   LCR Honda CASTROL   Honda   288.7   1'45.011   2.637 / 0.123
15   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   288.7   1'45.204   2.830 / 0.193
16   42   Alex RINS   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   288.0   1'45.221   2.847 / 0.017
17   12   Maverick VIŅALES   SPA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   292.6   1'45.445   3.071 / 0.224
18   20   Fabio QUARTARARO   FRA   Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   283.4   1'45.477   3.103 / 0.032
19   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   288.0   1'45.656   3.282 / 0.179
20   23   Enea BASTIANINI   ITA   Avintia Esponsorama   Ducati   285.7   1'45.853   3.479 / 0.197
21   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Petronas Yamaha SRT   Yamaha   284.2   1'45.881   3.507 / 0.028
22   30   Takaaki NAKAGAMI   JPN   LCR Honda IDEMITSU   Honda   287.2   1'46.046   3.672 / 0.165
23   33   Brad BINDER   RSA   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   278.3   1'46.152   3.778 / 0.106
24   32   Lorenzo SAVADORI   ITA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   281.9   1'46.966   4.592 / 0.814

This must however say a lot:
Fastest Lap:   Lap: 19   Johann ZARCO   1'42.374   148.6 Km/h
Best Race Lap.:   2021   Enea BASTIANINI   1'32.242   164.9 Km/h
All Time Lap Record:   2021   Francesco BAGNAIA   1'31.065   167.0 Km/h

10 sec slower than the fastest race lap??? Bit odd!
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1710 on: October 22, 2021, 12:51:44 pm »
Times coming in from practice :

1   5   Johann ZARCO   FRA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   295.0   1'42.374   
2   93   Marc MARQUEZ   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   291.1   1'43.791   1.417 / 1.417
3   43   Jack MILLER   AUS   Ducati Lenovo Team   Ducati   291.8   1'43.999   1.625 / 0.208
4   89   Jorge MARTIN   SPA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   292.6   1'44.041   1.667 / 0.042
5   21   Franco MORBIDELLI   ITA   Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   283.4   1'44.054   1.680 / 0.013
6   63   Francesco BAGNAIA   ITA   Ducati Lenovo Team   Ducati   289.5   1'44.183   1.809 / 0.129
7   88   Miguel OLIVEIRA   POR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   288.7   1'44.243   1.869 / 0.060
8   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Tech 3 KTM Factory Racing   KTM   285.7   1'44.324   1.950 / 0.081
9   27   Iker LECUONA   SPA   Tech 3 KTM Factory Racing   KTM   283.4   1'44.405   2.031 / 0.081
10   36   Joan MIR   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   288.7   1'44.513   2.139 / 0.108
11   10   Luca MARINI   ITA   SKY VR46 Avintia   Ducati   288.0   1'44.575   2.201 / 0.062
12   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Petronas Yamaha SRT   Yamaha   284.2   1'44.751   2.377 / 0.176
13   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   Ducati Lenovo Team   Ducati   284.9   1'44.888   2.514 / 0.137
14   73   Alex MARQUEZ   SPA   LCR Honda CASTROL   Honda   288.7   1'45.011   2.637 / 0.123
15   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   288.7   1'45.204   2.830 / 0.193
16   42   Alex RINS   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   288.0   1'45.221   2.847 / 0.017
17   12   Maverick VIŅALES   SPA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   292.6   1'45.445   3.071 / 0.224
18   20   Fabio QUARTARARO   FRA   Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   283.4   1'45.477   3.103 / 0.032
19   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   288.0   1'45.656   3.282 / 0.179
20   23   Enea BASTIANINI   ITA   Avintia Esponsorama   Ducati   285.7   1'45.853   3.479 / 0.197
21   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Petronas Yamaha SRT   Yamaha   284.2   1'45.881   3.507 / 0.028
22   30   Takaaki NAKAGAMI   JPN   LCR Honda IDEMITSU   Honda   287.2   1'46.046   3.672 / 0.165
23   33   Brad BINDER   RSA   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   278.3   1'46.152   3.778 / 0.106
24   32   Lorenzo SAVADORI   ITA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   281.9   1'46.966   4.592 / 0.814

This must however say a lot:
Fastest Lap:   Lap: 19   Johann ZARCO   1'42.374   148.6 Km/h
Best Race Lap.:   2021   Enea BASTIANINI   1'32.242   164.9 Km/h
All Time Lap Record:   2021   Francesco BAGNAIA   1'31.065   167.0 Km/h

10 sec slower than the fastest race lap??? Bit odd!

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1711 on: October 22, 2021, 12:54:17 pm »
Times coming in from practice :

1   5   Johann ZARCO   FRA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   295.0   1'42.374   
2   93   Marc MARQUEZ   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   291.1   1'43.791   1.417 / 1.417
3   43   Jack MILLER   AUS   Ducati Lenovo Team   Ducati   291.8   1'43.999   1.625 / 0.208
4   89   Jorge MARTIN   SPA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   292.6   1'44.041   1.667 / 0.042
5   21   Franco MORBIDELLI   ITA   Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   283.4   1'44.054   1.680 / 0.013
6   63   Francesco BAGNAIA   ITA   Ducati Lenovo Team   Ducati   289.5   1'44.183   1.809 / 0.129
7   88   Miguel OLIVEIRA   POR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   288.7   1'44.243   1.869 / 0.060
8   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   Tech 3 KTM Factory Racing   KTM   285.7   1'44.324   1.950 / 0.081
9   27   Iker LECUONA   SPA   Tech 3 KTM Factory Racing   KTM   283.4   1'44.405   2.031 / 0.081
10   36   Joan MIR   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   288.7   1'44.513   2.139 / 0.108
11   10   Luca MARINI   ITA   SKY VR46 Avintia   Ducati   288.0   1'44.575   2.201 / 0.062
12   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Petronas Yamaha SRT   Yamaha   284.2   1'44.751   2.377 / 0.176
13   51   Michele PIRRO   ITA   Ducati Lenovo Team   Ducati   284.9   1'44.888   2.514 / 0.137
14   73   Alex MARQUEZ   SPA   LCR Honda CASTROL   Honda   288.7   1'45.011   2.637 / 0.123
15   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   288.7   1'45.204   2.830 / 0.193
16   42   Alex RINS   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   288.0   1'45.221   2.847 / 0.017
17   12   Maverick VIŅALES   SPA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   292.6   1'45.445   3.071 / 0.224
18   20   Fabio QUARTARARO   FRA   Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   283.4   1'45.477   3.103 / 0.032
19   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   288.0   1'45.656   3.282 / 0.179
20   23   Enea BASTIANINI   ITA   Avintia Esponsorama   Ducati   285.7   1'45.853   3.479 / 0.197
21   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Petronas Yamaha SRT   Yamaha   284.2   1'45.881   3.507 / 0.028
22   30   Takaaki NAKAGAMI   JPN   LCR Honda IDEMITSU   Honda   287.2   1'46.046   3.672 / 0.165
23   33   Brad BINDER   RSA   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   278.3   1'46.152   3.778 / 0.106
24   32   Lorenzo SAVADORI   ITA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   281.9   1'46.966   4.592 / 0.814

This must however say a lot:
Fastest Lap:   Lap: 19   Johann ZARCO   1'42.374   148.6 Km/h
Best Race Lap.:   2021   Enea BASTIANINI   1'32.242   164.9 Km/h
All Time Lap Record:   2021   Francesco BAGNAIA   1'31.065   167.0 Km/h

10 sec slower than the fastest race lap??? Bit odd!

It's WET

Ok  Thanks Did not know looking at the times only
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1712 on: October 22, 2021, 01:02:09 pm »
Razlan Razali, owner of the new WithU Yamaha satellite team just confirmed that Dovi will have a 2022 factory spec bike while Darren will have a 2021 factory spec bike.  This is good news.  At least DB40 won't ride some Frankenstein bike made up of all sorts of old parts, but basically the bike FQ, FM and VR is riding now.
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« Reply #1713 on: October 22, 2021, 01:42:47 pm »
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« Reply #1714 on: October 22, 2021, 02:23:24 pm »
Breaking News - From 2023 all classes will have a minimum age limit of 18 years.
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« Reply #1715 on: October 22, 2021, 02:28:53 pm »
Still wet, some sun out.
 

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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1716 on: October 22, 2021, 02:49:58 pm »
Very glad for him! Beter of there than on a KTM !

You may also need a dolop of humble pie soon  :imaposer:

Really doubt that ! KTM and Aprilia was the only teams not under the development freeze and they should have stepped up! Aprilia did to a degree but KTM went backwards despite their advantage! So humble pie I doubt that!  When the real players release their developments  I think they will be even further towards the back if that is possible

I will put the humble pie in the freezer for you. I am not sure how you can say they went backwards despite being able to run often at the sharp end. KTM's major issue is tyres. Anyway time will tell. KTM are a serious racing force if they put their mind to it. Remember they are really new in MotoGP. BTW they have just finished 3rd and 5th in FP2.  :o. (they were not in reverse gear).
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1717 on: October 22, 2021, 04:06:53 pm »
Very glad for him! Beter of there than on a KTM !

You may also need a dolop of humble pie soon  :imaposer:

Really doubt that ! KTM and Aprilia was the only teams not under the development freeze and they should have stepped up! Aprilia did to a degree but KTM went backwards despite their advantage! So humble pie I doubt that!  When the real players release their developments  I think they will be even further towards the back if that is possible

I will put the humble pie in the freezer for you. I am not sure how you can say they went backwards despite being able to run often at the sharp end. KTM's major issue is tyres. Anyway time will tell. KTM are a serious racing force if they put their mind to it. Remember they are really new in MotoGP. BTW they have just finished 3rd and 5th in FP2.  :o. (they were not in reverse gear).

Would love take you up on your offer if Brad can be the man! But we will have to see! All the others will come with huge engine gains for next year . Honda being the biggest engine manufacturer in the world have something to prove Yamaha have been leaders in engine technology ! I am not so sure about KTM !
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1718 on: October 22, 2021, 04:28:20 pm »
Very glad for him! Beter of there than on a KTM !

You may also need a dolop of humble pie soon  :imaposer:

Really doubt that ! KTM and Aprilia was the only teams not under the development freeze and they should have stepped up! Aprilia did to a degree but KTM went backwards despite their advantage! So humble pie I doubt that!  When the real players release their developments  I think they will be even further towards the back if that is possible

I will put the humble pie in the freezer for you. I am not sure how you can say they went backwards despite being able to run often at the sharp end. KTM's major issue is tyres. Anyway time will tell. KTM are a serious racing force if they put their mind to it. Remember they are really new in MotoGP. BTW they have just finished 3rd and 5th in FP2.  :o. (they were not in reverse gear).

Would love take you up on your offer if Brad can be the man! But we will have to see! All the others will come with huge engine gains for next year . Honda being the biggest engine manufacturer in the world have something to prove Yamaha have been leaders in engine technology ! I am not so sure about KTM !

FFS! KTM have not even been 5 years in MotoGP and you are comparing them to Yamaha and Honda. Myopic is the word that comes to mind. KTM have dominated other classes with brilliant engines and technology, give them a chance at least instead of banging on about the Jap marques (who have actually been pretty dismal of late in the bigger picture). Also what makes you think KTM are not "real players" (in your words) and cannot come with meaningful development for 2022? Do you really think they have been sitting on their hands the whole year? 
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Re: MotoGP 2021
« Reply #1719 on: October 22, 2021, 04:58:49 pm »
Very glad for him! Beter of there than on a KTM !

You may also need a dolop of humble pie soon  :imaposer:

Really doubt that ! KTM and Aprilia was the only teams not under the development freeze and they should have stepped up! Aprilia did to a degree but KTM went backwards despite their advantage! So humble pie I doubt that!  When the real players release their developments  I think they will be even further towards the back if that is possible

I will put the humble pie in the freezer for you. I am not sure how you can say they went backwards despite being able to run often at the sharp end. KTM's major issue is tyres. Anyway time will tell. KTM are a serious racing force if they put their mind to it. Remember they are really new in MotoGP. BTW they have just finished 3rd and 5th in FP2.  :o. (they were not in reverse gear).

Would love take you up on your offer if Brad can be the man! But we will have to see! All the others will come with huge engine gains for next year . Honda being the biggest engine manufacturer in the world have something to prove Yamaha have been leaders in engine technology ! I am not so sure about KTM !

FFS! KTM have not even been 5 years in MotoGP and you are comparing them to Yamaha and Honda. Myopic is the word that comes to mind. KTM have dominated other classes with brilliant engines and technology, give them a chance at least instead of banging on about the Jap marques (who have actually been pretty dismal of late in the bigger picture). Also what makes you think KTM are not "real players" (in your words) and cannot come with meaningful development for 2022? Do you really think they have been sitting on their hands the whole year?

Lets see! Look how long it took Ducati to get there! The japs have the resources and have mostly been on top since they got there they will do their best to stay there! Let me maybe not say more! This seems touchy for you.
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