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R7 with CP2 motor?
« on: February 19, 2021, 01:11:02 am »
With the death of the R6, will Yamaha be milking the CP2 motor some more??

Some rumours suggest that they might introduce an R7 with this motor.

The 2020 R6 produces about 120hp.

Going from 120hp to 75hp.. must be the same mastermind behind their Dakar efforts.

Let's hope it's just a rumour or that the R7 will have a turbo



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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2021, 06:21:26 am »
Het jy al een gery?
Waar bly jy? Jy bly stil! :peepwall:
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2021, 06:45:28 am »
Looks like FZ07 on the side, far from an YZF R7
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2021, 07:17:12 am »
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2021, 07:21:06 am »
Supersports are a thing of the past

Yes. Even KTM, when they looked for an excuse to discontinue the flop of an RC8, stated that these bikes are too dangerous for the roads.

Then they instead gave riders 150Hp adventure bikes........ :biggrin:

Superbikes are made for cornering, and handling, otherwise they become sports tourers. And as Capetonians know too well, few things will stay with a 50Hp 250 2stroke through the passes. :ricky:

But I guess Dirtwarp want to sit at 300 through the Freestate flats. ::)
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2021, 09:51:09 am »
300 on the autobahn

The R6 is such an icon and the supersport class is a welcomed choice for those that don't want the 150++ hp of the litre bikes.

I'm not seeing how this already underpowered parallel twin in the adv class, can hold a candle in supersport.


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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2021, 10:06:41 am »
Why was the R6 pulled? Euro emissions?
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2021, 10:16:12 am »
Supersports are a thing of the past

Why was the R6 pulled? Euro emissions?

The 600 supersport class has been declining for years and is all but disappearing completely
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2021, 10:32:09 am »
Sad really.
Look where that red section sits on the tacho....
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2021, 11:42:37 am »
750's now that was a nice size, handling of a 600 but power closer to a 1000. Only Suzuki soldiered on with the GSXR 750.
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2021, 11:54:50 am »
those that don't want the 150++ hp of the litre bikes.

That'll be me then!
A liter was too much for me so I got a "little" 600 CBR RR.
Dropped the gearing by almost 17% so I could use all the gears on most tracks, and hey presto, I could keep up with the 1000's or went past them!  :thumleft:
Few of them really dare to open them up I found out, and in the corners the lesser weight was noticeably quicker.
And also, gravel traps on such a lighter thing were waayy easier to plow through, I've visited many and never dropped it  :P

These days the electronics reign supers into submission, but for me that's confusing: who is doing the actual riding?  ???
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2021, 12:29:06 pm »
Sad really.
Look where that red section sits on the tacho....
I raise you 250 4 cylinder rev counter
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2021, 01:14:51 pm »
300 on the autobahn

The R6 is such an icon and the supersport class is a welcomed choice for those that don't want the 150++ hp of the litre bikes.

I'm not seeing how this already underpowered parallel twin in the adv class, can hold a candle in supersport.


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The way the class has been declining, perhaps it'll be the only candle?
 

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2021, 02:12:00 pm »
No just let the R6 die with dignity

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2021, 02:18:14 pm »
No just let the R6 die with dignity

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R6 can still be bought here in the UK.. but now its a track only designated bike. Cant be licenced for road use.

And to answer a previous poster. The 600 class is now non existent as the none of the big manufacturers bothered getting the bikes to euro 5 specs. And they did not bother cos the sales were extremely poor in this class. us bikers are getting older an moving to more tourer type bikes cos our bodies dont like being convoluted. Which is a pity cos my RF600 is a machine amongst motorcyles.  the big jap companies stopped developing the 600's years ago so even an older 600 is on par with the ones they sold recently
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2021, 02:22:37 pm »
Yes so let's remember the class for what it once was.

The CP02 motor simply does not belong here. IMO

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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2021, 02:24:09 pm »
2006 R6 was pretty  :drif: Stubby exhaust was born right there.
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2021, 02:32:29 pm »
What will happen to the Supersport class now in SBK ?
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2021, 03:02:33 pm »
Yes so let's remember the class for what it once was.

The CP02 motor simply does not belong here. IMO

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Yamaha is not intending the CP2 engined "R7" to be a replacement for the R6. They may both be roadbikes, but performance wise you cannot compare a twin to a 4-cylinder.

This is quite obvious, or one would think it is.