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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2021, 04:33:01 pm »
As long as they don't name it an R7 as that will be mutton dressed as lamb

i thought that was the obvious argument of this topic

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2021, 04:42:29 pm »
As long as they don't name it an R7 as that will be mutton dressed as lamb

i thought that was the obvious argument of this topic

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There is no existing model called the "R7", it was an old 750/4 sold by Yam to give Haga a bike to race on, so if they call the CP2 a "R7", it would make all the sense in the world.

T7=D/s

R7=roadbike.
 

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2021, 06:05:17 pm »
The 600 super sport bikes got smaller and smaller. Would love one but I just canít fit the seating position. My 99 Aprillia RS125 has more room on it than a modern super sport. Love those peaky 600 motors though
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2021, 07:50:31 pm »
As long as they don't name it an R7 as that will be mutton dressed as lamb

i thought that was the obvious argument of this topic

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There is no existing model called the "R7", it was an old 750/4 sold by Yam to give Haga a bike to race on, so if they call the CP2 a "R7", it would make all the sense in the world.

T7=D/s

R7=roadbike.

R = road bike??
The R-line is a no compromise race bike, made road legal.


So it's not the 7, it's the R

R1 and R6 were thoroughbred race bikes.
This R7?
I'm a real fan of the R-line bikes and naming this anemic in comparison specimen an "R", is a slap in the face.

Seems to me you should pitch in on their Dakar strategic planning sessions, you certainly think like they do

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2021, 08:19:36 pm »
Next we'll have Dirtwarp moan about the naming of the R3 after the thoroughbred race lineage of Yamaha's R's.

Though in a way I agree with you DW, the CP2 does not seem fit to run with the real R's, although in a top handling package, we may be surprised at how well it could go.
 

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2021, 08:32:09 pm »
Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2021, 08:37:29 pm »
Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.

KTM het dit omskep in LandRovers.

Ond beste speeltye was op 50hp RD350's, so n 70pk twin sal seker ook goed werk?
 

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2021, 08:50:00 pm »
Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.

KTM het dit omskep in LandRovers.

Ond beste speeltye was op 50hp RD350's, so n 70pk twin sal seker ook goed werk?

Daar is die probleem, dankie dat jy dit uit lig.
As dit kom by sport bikes is "goed werk" minder aantreklik as "ruk jou klere af".
Raai wat was die R6.
Raai wat is die cp2.
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2021, 10:05:11 pm »
Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.

KTM het dit omskep in LandRovers.

Ond beste speeltye was op 50hp RD350's, so n 70pk twin sal seker ook goed werk?

Daar is die probleem, dankie dat jy dit uit lig.
As dit kom by sport bikes is "goed werk" minder aantreklik as "ruk jou klere af".
Raai wat was die R6.
Raai wat is die cp2.

Nevermind dat ons ouer is, ons is ook in die 21ste eeu, om jou klere afgeruk te kry is nie meer so sosiaal aanvaarbaar nie. :imaposer:

Daar is ouens wat R1's en ZX10's falat-out kan ry in heelwat situasies, ouens soos Johnny Rea, ek self sal heel ok wees op n "R7".
 

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2021, 10:43:06 pm »
Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.

KTM het dit omskep in LandRovers.

Ond beste speeltye was op 50hp RD350's, so n 70pk twin sal seker ook goed werk?

Daar is die probleem, dankie dat jy dit uit lig.
As dit kom by sport bikes is "goed werk" minder aantreklik as "ruk jou klere af".
Raai wat was die R6.
Raai wat is die cp2.

Nevermind dat ons ouer is, ons is ook in die 21ste eeu, om jou klere afgeruk te kry is nie meer so sosiaal aanvaarbaar nie. :imaposer:

Daar is ouens wat R1's en ZX10's falat-out kan ry in heelwat situasies, ouens soos Johnny Rea, ek self sal heel ok wees op n "R7".
Maar jy hou mos van sukkel.
900km in een dag op n XT

Die res van ons gebruik eerder die regte tool vir die job.

'n bobbejaan spanner is handig ja, maar op die einde van die dag, is dit n spanner wat deur n bobbejaan gedraai word.

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2021, 07:09:08 am »
Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.

KTM het dit omskep in LandRovers.

Ond beste speeltye was op 50hp RD350's, so n 70pk twin sal seker ook goed werk?

Daar is die probleem, dankie dat jy dit uit lig.
As dit kom by sport bikes is "goed werk" minder aantreklik as "ruk jou klere af".
Raai wat was die R6.
Raai wat is die cp2.

Nevermind dat ons ouer is, ons is ook in die 21ste eeu, om jou klere afgeruk te kry is nie meer so sosiaal aanvaarbaar nie. :imaposer:

Daar is ouens wat R1's en ZX10's falat-out kan ry in heelwat situasies, ouens soos Johnny Rea, ek self sal heel ok wees op n "R7".

Ek dink nie jy verkies heel OK wees nie.
Vee maar eerder hierdie stelling uit.
En dan kom post jy dit die dag as jy die 701 verkoop het, en net met jou XT600 rondry. :pot:
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2021, 08:13:06 am »
Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.

KTM het dit omskep in LandRovers.

Ond beste speeltye was op 50hp RD350's, so n 70pk twin sal seker ook goed werk?

Daar is die probleem, dankie dat jy dit uit lig.
As dit kom by sport bikes is "goed werk" minder aantreklik as "ruk jou klere af".
Raai wat was die R6.
Raai wat is die cp2.

Nevermind dat ons ouer is, ons is ook in die 21ste eeu, om jou klere afgeruk te kry is nie meer so sosiaal aanvaarbaar nie. :imaposer:

Daar is ouens wat R1's en ZX10's falat-out kan ry in heelwat situasies, ouens soos Johnny Rea, ek self sal heel ok wees op n "R7".
Maar jy hou mos van sukkel.
900km in een dag op n XT

Die res van ons gebruik eerder die regte tool vir die job.

'n bobbejaan spanner is handig ja, maar op die einde van die dag, is dit n spanner wat deur n bobbejaan gedraai word.

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Net jammer jy kan nie 900km op n dag doen op jou "regte tool vir die job" nie.

En dis net in KTM werkswinkels waar n spanner deur n bobbejaan gedraai word. En clutchplate met skuurpapier "gediens" word. ::)

En Yamaha hoef nie vir jou te vra of hulle n bike n "R" mag nowm nie. :imaposer: :imaposer:
 

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2021, 09:32:17 am »


Ek verstaan presies wat Dirtwarp se.
Die Japanese het die adv class omskep in Hiluxse.
Miskien kan hulle die sportbikes spaar van dit.

KTM het dit omskep in LandRovers.

Ond beste speeltye was op 50hp RD350's, so n 70pk twin sal seker ook goed werk?

Daar is die probleem, dankie dat jy dit uit lig.
As dit kom by sport bikes is "goed werk" minder aantreklik as "ruk jou klere af".
Raai wat was die R6.
Raai wat is die cp2.

Nevermind dat ons ouer is, ons is ook in die 21ste eeu, om jou klere afgeruk te kry is nie meer so sosiaal aanvaarbaar nie. :imaposer:

Daar is ouens wat R1's en ZX10's falat-out kan ry in heelwat situasies, ouens soos Johnny Rea, ek self sal heel ok wees op n "R7".
Maar jy hou mos van sukkel.
900km in een dag op n XT

Die res van ons gebruik eerder die regte tool vir die job.

'n bobbejaan spanner is handig ja, maar op die einde van die dag, is dit n spanner wat deur n bobbejaan gedraai word.

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Net jammer jy kan nie 900km op n dag doen op jou "regte tool vir die job" nie.

En dis net in KTM werkswinkels waar n spanner deur n bobbejaan gedraai word. En clutchplate met skuurpapier "gediens" word. ::)

En Yamaha hoef nie vir jou te vra of hulle n bike n "R" mag nowm nie. :imaposer: :imaposer:


Inteendeel, die 990 was die regte tool vir die job en veel meer as 900km is met hom in 1 dag gery.

Maar ek sien jy trek alweer KTM in n Yamaha verhaal in.. dink aan jou blou onderbroekie, fokus op die onderwerp
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2021, 10:52:28 am »
OK, it is very important for you to deminish the CP2 engine, and this is evident on the T7 thread as well.

But let's look at the facts......in 1992 Carl Fogarty took the venerable Yamaha 750 OW-01 around the IOM at an average speed of 122mph, a record that stood for SEVEN years.

In 2015, 23 years later, James Hillier took a Suzuki SV650 V-twin to an average speed of 120.8mph, just 2mph shy of the R7 record of the 90's.

Say the "R7" can do no better than the SV650, then it still remains a highly respectable time around the mountain course.

The "R7", while it cannot hold a candle to Yamaha's razor-blade sharp R6, will still be a formidable tool, given it's easy to ride engine, and a capable chassis.

Lastly, at least wait till the 'r7" is out to denounce it as "mutton dressed up as lamb".

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2021, 01:20:34 pm »

Some more Hilux drivel.

130hp vs 75..
Don't hold your breath

"orange panty"?
Jy nie enige oorspronklike grappe van jou eie nie?
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2021, 02:36:17 pm »
All Yam models brought to ZA should have some R in front of its model name.
Not so much R for fast, but for the premium Rands they get on the price tag.
Ek is nou so verveeld, niks clutch plate om te skuur nie. :ricky:
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2021, 02:43:35 pm »
The two of you, Laurel and Hardy, go read my post reply#33, and come tell me again how the CP2 engined roadbike will be a disgrace to the R7?

Yamaha knows what they are doing, and doing it so well, for 60 years already, that they can now put Toyota-like premiums on their products.
 

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« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2021, 03:15:31 pm »
The two of you, Laurel and Hardy, go read my post reply#33, and come tell me again how the CP2 engined roadbike will be a disgrace to the R7?

Yamaha knows what they are doing, and doing it so well, for 60 years already, that they can now put Toyota-like premiums on their products.

Ok, ok, calm down Benny Hill.
Your R7 will be as fast as that totally stock standard SV650 of James Hillier.
Hell, even faster, this is a Yamaha.
I would call it Legend70.
Legendary 70 Hp.
Will also last 70 years.
Toyota will just have to skip their 70 year anniversary Hilux.
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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2021, 05:54:00 pm »
OK, it is very important for you to deminish the CP2 engine, and this is evident on the T7 thread as well.

But let's look at the facts......in 1992 Carl Fogarty took the venerable Yamaha 750 OW-01 around the IOM at an average speed of 122mph, a record that stood for SEVEN years.

In 2015, 23 years later, James Hillier took a Suzuki SV650 V-twin to an average speed of 120.8mph, just 2mph shy of the R7 record of the 90's.

Say the "R7" can do no better than the SV650, then it still remains a highly respectable time around the mountain course.

The "R7", while it cannot hold a candle to Yamaha's razor-blade sharp R6, will still be a formidable tool, given it's easy to ride engine, and a capable chassis.

Lastly, at least wait till the 'r7" is out to denounce it as "mutton dressed up as lamb".

Orange panty.

OK as requested I've read #33 again.
In the T7 thread, I was diminishing the 'kadwaa!!' suspension more than anything else, followed by its ridiculous price.

How can the CP2, disguised as a modern-day R7 be a disgrace?
You might still be rocking your 92' velskoens, but the world has moved on since '92, an era when this was the style of the day:


I sure as shit wont subscribe to a performance package that dates from '92 at a price tag, and you can quote me on this, that will be as ridiculous as the T7's   
 

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Re: R7 with CP2 motor?
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2021, 08:04:59 pm »
But you certainly fight for a brand with 1929 reliability figures. :imaposer: